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    DJM is already better than Parker was.
    A truly phenomenal rise in his development as a player.
    It is reminiscent of Kawhi’s development.
    The “supporting” players are there.
    Now we just need to give DJM another great player and we’ll be dangerous.

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    DJM is already better than Parker was.
    A truly phenomenal rise in his development as a player.
    It is reminiscent of Kawhi’s development.
    The “supporting” players are there.
    Now we just need to give DJM another great player and we’ll be dangerous.
    Sir slow down!!! Two different playing styles

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    Parker would average 30 in todays NBA

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    Btw as soon as I say we should move him he has these 2 games clearly showing he is a point guard
    Dude was making tough ass passes in traffic. His passing out of his post up and spin moves are deadly. I love the offball movement of our players which shows they believe DJ will get them the ball.

    Watching DJ now I do wonder if Manu is teaching him his bag of tricks bc I see a very distinctive Manu move by DJ when it comes to his behind the back. That’s exactly how Manu used to do it which is an original and different than everybody else’s behind the back. Also DJs positioning in his spin move is amazing too. I think he’s been learning one on one from Manu. Dude knows where to spin to get that second defender and exactly when to pass or go up with the shot. Murray has such a beautiful game

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    What I love about his game is his sense of getting to the space he wants to get his jumper off. Every shot he takes from the elbow or free throw line barely hits any part of the rim when it goes in. He’s def putting in work on his midrange. Additionally, he has worked on keeping his handles being more disciplined. I love that he wants to attack as soon as he sees a big on him or a mismatch. His spin move creates so much space for him to get the the shot he wants. It’s been awesome to see his game grow. Of course his passing is much improved and he is a terror when he drives and kicks.

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    DJM is already better than Parker was.
    A truly phenomenal rise in his development as a player.
    It is reminiscent of Kawhi’s development.
    The “supporting” players are there.
    Now we just need to give DJM another great player and we’ll be dangerous.
    lol son, slow down.

    Everybody's numbers in today's NBA are inflated. Averaging a 30 pts triple double is almost like averaging 20, 5 and 5 in the mid 2000's.

    Parker is a HoF, Dejounte isn't anywhere near that level yet.

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    I haven't been paying much attention to the NBA outisde the Spurs this season. Does DJ have MIP on lock or is there anyone that the voters can snub him for?

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    I haven't been paying much attention to the NBA outisde the Spurs this season. Does DJ have MIP on lock or is there anyone that the voters can snub him for?
    Thinking it'll be Garland, but besides him, Poole and Edwards have their cases. Apparently Ja is the favorite on some sites, but he was already a star before this season and will probably make an All-NBA team. We'll see. Murray didn't get voted in an All-Star, so he didn't initially have the name recognition. If he shows out in the ASG and afterwards, he might get the narrative on his side to win.

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    I haven't been paying much attention to the NBA outisde the Spurs this season. Does DJ have MIP on lock or is there anyone that the voters can snub him for?
    On Fanduel Sportsbook

    Ja -350
    Garland +1000
    Bridges +1000
    DJ +1400

    On December 5th I put 100 bucks on DJ to win MIP and it was +1000. First time checking since I placed the bet and now his odds have gone down from then some how

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    Parker would average 30 in todays NBA
    Especially as the best player on the roster.

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    Yeah prime TP would absolutely feast as a scorer in todays NBA.

    That being said, I can see DJ reaching that lvl as well. He needs to learn how to absorb contact and sell fouls, instead of going for high degree of difficulty shots while trying to avoid the said contact when challenged at the rim.

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    Thinking it'll be Garland, but besides him, Poole and Edwards have their cases. Apparently Ja is the favorite on some sites, but he was already a star before this season and will probably make an All-NBA team. We'll see. Murray didn't get voted in an All-Star, so he didn't initially have the name recognition. If he shows out in the ASG and afterwards, he might get the narrative on his side to win.
    Ja really was not that good and has improved a lot this year. This is people watching what media says and goes from there. he was not bad but Murray was better then him last year. This is why I think it is so interesting when people were talking about how bad murray was. He has been better then several of the people list above him. Just like when people wanted to say Ben was better. he wasnt but had the media hype.

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    The even mentioning of DJ's game in the same breath as one of the all time great PGs in Tony Parker would've felt blasphemous as little as a season ago.

    He has a long way to go, (obviously), but the fact being that if people even feel slightly comfortable in putting out those type of opinions on a Spur-centric board, it perhaps shows how much much he has grown as a player and the potential path he is on moving forward...

    (And FWIW, Tony Parker is my favourite player of all time).

    If DJ's ceiling truly is what we have witnessed in these last two games (Hawks and Pels), further all-time great comparisons are likely to follow...

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    Yeah, accolades-wise Murray has a long way to go. Personally though, I am finding Murray’s game more aesthetically pleasing. That would have been very hard for me to say before this season, as his efficiency wasnt there. But now? He’s added a little flavor to it and APPEARANCE-wise, his mid range game is Jordanesque to me. A thing of beauty.

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    Credit has to go to Chip for pumping out not one, but two, MJ-like archetypes.

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    The kid has truly gotten better; big time compe or .

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    The more I think about it, I realize that Murray’s rise further grows the Spurs’ reputation for developing players. Think about it: MANY young players would point to Kawhi being their favorite player and attributed his success to the Spurs. I recall many videos of prospects coming out of college stating that they wouldn’t mind being drafted by the Spurs because of how Kawhi developed. Murray would be another example for young kids. I think it will cause future players drafted by the Spurs to believe in the program even more, and the fact that Murray was a 29th pick will strengthen that. This is a very good thing.
    I haven't kept up with young prospects since Kawhi was traded. Are you sure it's not just one or two that have mentioned that, or are there a few prospects that have said the Spurs were a big part of Kawhi's development?

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    DJM is already better than Parker was.
    A truly phenomenal rise in his development as a player.
    It is reminiscent of Kawhi’s development.
    The “supporting” players are there.
    Now we just need to give DJM another great player and we’ll be dangerous.
    I don't know about that. Murray has been great this season, however, Parker tore up defenses that were more physical than today's that were designed to stop him, and he played in an era where rules weren't as geared/as favourable to the offensive player as they are today.

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    I don't know about that. Murray has been great this season, however, Parker tore up defenses that were more physical than today's that were designed to stop him, and he played in an era where rules weren't as geared/as favourable to the offensive player as they are today.
    While I completely agree, TP was light years more experienced coming into the league than DJ even at 18 and DJ blew his knee out. DJ is on a of a trajectory right now. DJ could be better overall when it’s all said and done. Everyone saying TP would average 30 today which could be possible but DJ is light years a head of him on the defensive end and is slowly becoming very good on offense. This season he has shown flashes of being an actual true PG something TP really never was he was always a score first player. I honestly think DJ enjoys getting his teammates involved. DJ still has a ways to go to be in the Parker conversation but damn this kid is getting me excited for his future.

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    While I completely agree, TP was light years more experienced coming into the league than DJ even at 18 and DJ blew his knee out. DJ is on a of a trajectory right now. DJ could be better overall when it’s all said and done. Everyone saying TP would average 30 today which could be possible but DJ is light years a head of him on the defensive end and is slowly becoming very good on offense. This season he has shown flashes of being an actual true PG something TP really never was he was always a score first player. I honestly think DJ enjoys getting his teammates involved. DJ still has a ways to go to be in the Parker conversation but damn this kid is getting me excited for his future.
    DJ shoots more than Parker ever did. It’s not really fair to say Parker didn’t get his teammates involved bc he really did. It was just that second pass to get that wide open shot. He led the league in hockey assists a couple times. If you give Parker the ball with that much open lane and 18+shots a game, then he is gonna score at a ridiculous clip.

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    DJ shoots more than Parker ever did. It’s not really fair to say Parker didn’t get his teammates involved bc he really did. It was just that second pass to get that wide open shot. He led the league in hockey assists a couple times. If you give Parker the ball with that much open lane and 18+shots a game, then he is gonna score at a ridiculous clip.
    Parker has averaged 18 FGA before just as DJ is now. DJ has to take these shots. I never said TP didn’t get his teammates involved he sure did I just said he was a score first player which he was. I just said DJ enjoys getting his teammates involved and inferior teammates at that. TP had no choice to pass it to TD and Manu.

    Also just like I said it’s more about scoring I never once disputed TP being able to score at a great rate.

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    Hopefully he gets an above the rim big to play with so his alley oop passing skill isn't stunted like Parker's was, I remember him throwing the ball all kinds of out of bounds in the all star game trying to throw lobs.

    Look at Derrick White today. His whole life throwing bounce passes because he's with Poeltl, Pau, Aldridge, Joffrey, Dieng, and Eubanks so he's not used to having someone like Robert Williams, nearly threw that guys shoulder out of socket with how he had to reach to catch a Derrick lob.

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    But but he posts videos on Instagram

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