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    I still believe KA can be a very good player.

    OV, come on man, 9 turnovers in a Summer League game....you can't count that. Too many new faces, tempo of game etc.

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    whats the news with milotunov, bertans etc...? there's still a chance they'll play the remaining SL games?

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    Glad Dejounte will be street legal, finally. Young fella needs to sit upon Grandpa Kyle's knee and gain some Spurs' corporate knowledge.

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    Boston's gonna be a good test cause they have some good guards unlike Utah and Philadelphia.

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    Murray, Forbes, Simmons, Anderson and Kirk()

    Game over summer league
    Like the summer league's version of the warriors

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    whats the news with milotunov, bertans etc...? there's still a chance they'll play the remaining SL games?
    Boy oh boy, do I hope so. Both those guys. Bertans is okay, I watched his games and he could be something...
    Milutinov just has skill-sets that this team desperately needs and he moves like an NBA player. He's got, not only the physical skills, but a savvy that's just instinctual.

    I really want to see if that translates to the big boys sooner, rather than later.

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    Las Vegas is gonna be stacked with guards I'm assuming. With Archie, Forbes, Murray, and Hanlan, should be a solid rotation. But you gotta start Murray with Forbes right?

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    I wish I could agree. I know one was a bull moving screen call, but most of them were just not taking care of the ball. There were a couple of times in the first game that he and Kyle were instructing people on where to be, but Simmons is not passing to spots, he's getting too deep and leaving his feet or dribbling into traffic, slnging the ball around. The worst part is how many turned into a layup attempt on the other end. He had some spectacular blocks in the game, and I think every one of them was following one of his own turnovers.

    But this is his time to make mistakes. I have no real problem with him just using these games to get some rhythm. If he's still turning the ball over like this in Vegas, it might become a concern. I'm sure Pop doesn't believe there's any excuse for having 13 turnovers in two games.
    Pop always emphasizes being solid. I'm sure part of what they will ask him to do is to reign those mistakes in. How he plays in the upcoming games will tell if you can trust that he will make the right plays or not. If he stays the same, then this is what he is and case closed. I am sure he can still play in the league but he's set to a lower usage, small role off the ball, which as others pointed out, reduces his usefulness.

    Pop probably only cares about him improving in his weak areas at this point, than him having a scoring explosion bc they already knew he could get to the basket. What they don't know and are hoping to find out is whether he can clean his game up. Precisely ball handling and sound decision making is what he came here to do and hasn't done well so far. This game wasn't exactly a success and it won't be acceptable to the varsity team I am sure.

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    Milutinov may be the real deal......in a few years! Trial by fire is the only way.....

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    Pop always emphasizes being solid. I'm sure part of what they will ask him to do is to reign those mistakes in. How he plays in the upcoming games will tell if you can trust that he will make the right plays or not. If he stays the same, then this is what he is and case closed. I am sure he can still play in the league but he's set to a lower usage, small role off the ball, which as others pointed out, reduces his usefulness.

    Pop probably only cares about him improving in his weak areas at this point, than him having a scoring explosion bc they already knew he could get to the basket. What they don't know and are hoping to find out is whether he can clean his game up. Precisely ball handling and sound decision making is what he came here to do and hasn't done well so far. This game wasn't exactly a success and it won't be acceptable to the varsity team I am sure.
    Agreed. Having watched summer league for a while now, when a player from the Spurs goes to SL, it's to work on weaknesses. Kawhi was there to try to improve his ball-handling and aggressiveness. I'd be really shocked if turnovers weren't talked about for Simmons, just like three point shooting was certainly explained to Kyle.

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    Are the Spurs really still looking at signing Jarnell Stokes? I know he lit up the D-League, but I thought he was one of those guys who can't make the transition? Apparently the Spurs really are thinking about signing him. Damn this is shaping up to be a strange season.

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    So ready to watch Murray play.

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    replay of Spurs / 76ers on NBATV right now

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    So ready to watch Murray play.

    Did he finally sign? Or is he still holding out for the full 120%?

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    Did he finally sign? Or is he still holding out for the full 120%?
    Not sure, but he tweeted this so it looks like he'll be playing:


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    Did he finally sign? Or is he still holding out for the full 120%?
    There's been no official release of his signing yet but he tweeted he's playing Thursday.

    I think we're going to know a lot more then.

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    The only way they are gonna let him play is if he signs first otherwise he would of already played the first two games.

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    Not sure, but he tweeted this so it looks like he'll be playing:
    The only way they are gonna let him play is if he signs first otherwise he would of already played the first two games.

    I agree that they're not likely to let him play until he signs. That all makes it sound like the Tim and Manu question marks will get cleared up tomorrow, or Thursday morning at the latest. It seems like that has to be the thing holding up his money. And if he's that definite that he's playing, he must know something.

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    It will be interesting to see who sits for Murray. The dude might just be the first guard off the bench. Has anyone heard anything about the Vegas roster? It's getting to the point that we should know. As I said, I'm hoping that Anderson and probably Simmons are done with the guys we've actually been waiting to see are there. I'm glad Murray will get a game to get his legs under him before that happens.

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    Can't wait to see him play.

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    Hanlan was not in the boxscore. I don't know how SL rosters work. He probably got dropped from Utah's SL team, but i am guessing we don't have a slot for him on ours...?
    I have no news on him.
    Hanlan is not the Spurs' property yet. That trade will be made official tomorrow. I expect him to join the SL team for Vegas, which is good with Simmons and Anderson likely to take a step back at least.

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    It will be interesting to see who sits for Murray. The dude might just be the first guard off the bench.
    He's going to be a backup so might as well have him get used to being a backup since he probably had never had to come off the bench.

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    It will be interesting to see who sits for Murray. The dude might just be the first guard off the bench. Has anyone heard anything about the Vegas roster? It's getting to the point that we should know. As I said, I'm hoping that Anderson and probably Simmons are done with the guys we've actually been waiting to see are there. I'm glad Murray will get a game to get his legs under him before that happens.
    Nothing on Vegas yet.
    I know we have seen a lot of the 2, but it feels like they still have a lot to work on and these are rotation players it looks like. Simmons could stand to take a step back to let others make plays too and just focus on being solid and Kyle, I don't care if they just spot him up at the 3 pts line the rest of the way and have him defer to others. I'd just like him to focus on defense and rebounding. He has a lot to work to do. He played the 4 in the NBA, but never as a rookie. We might count this past season as the first one he dabbled in it and he's looking like he's going to have to play it a lot. I don't care about him not taking a shot the rest of the way unless he's wide open, but I feel like he could use the work in paint defense. In no world is Kyle a seasoned 4. Trey Lyles played more 4 than him I am sure and started like 33 games at that spot. Kyle's a baby for the 4. I think he needs as much as he can get, specially on defense. But Pop might decide he's seen enough though and want to see others.

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    Some thoughts after watching the game again

    First of all, seeing Kyle play like this is expected so I don't get too excited about the points and all, but it's the release of his shot that's starting to get to me. If he can consistently get his shot off like that, then it opens his game up. He already has a nice mid range game, he has a developing post game, so now as a threat beyond the line, it will cause defenders to properly close out on him which opens the door to more penetration. This should increase his scoring and not to mention improve the spacing on the floor.

    Secondly, I like Arcidiacono. I think he's one of those blue collar career third stringers. In my mind he's the perfect type you want next to Murray pushing him to reach his full potential. If Murray starts show boating or getting sloppy you put Archie in and he'll play the right way. If Murray starts slacking on d or is not giving the effort you want, you put Archie in and he'll play his heart out. One is Captain America and one is Iron Man imo. Archie has the intangibles down. While I'm not ready to say trade mills, I think if Forbes and Archie can sustain this level of play and you need more cap, you can then look to o trade Patty.

    As for Forbes, he's a star in my mind already. It's too bad we only got him on a one year contract. I think you start looking go or ways to add him on the roster. Unless he has a meteoric collapse or has an injury, I see him as this year's Gary Neal with like a curry swag.

    Lastly, I'm not impressed with Juice. We all know he can score against this level of compe ion. If working on the fouling is what pop wants to see then the next thing is turnovers. I think it would be smart to pull Kyle after Utah but let Juice continue. Keep juice at the three, move livio to the four and hopefully milutinov to the five, with Forbes and Murray at the guards. Let Archie and Murray fight for the starting spot from day one. Maybe Simmons doesn't play either and bertans starts the three. I think you only pull juice and slomo if the stashed picks arrive.

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    Some thoughts after watching the game again

    First of all, seeing Kyle play like this is expected so I don't get too excited about the points and all, but it's the release of his shot that's starting to get to me. If he can consistently get his shot off like that, then it opens his game up. He already has a nice mid range game, he has a developing post game, so now as a threat beyond the line, it will cause defenders to properly close out on him which opens the door to more penetration. This should increase his scoring and not to mention improve the spacing on the floor.

    Secondly, I like Arcidiacono. I think he's one of those blue collar career third stringers. In my mind he's the perfect type you want next to Murray pushing him to reach his full potential. If Murray starts show boating or getting sloppy you put Archie in and he'll play the right way. If Murray starts slacking on d or is not giving the effort you want, you put Archie in and he'll play his heart out. One is Captain America and one is Iron Man imo. Archie has the intangibles down. While I'm not ready to say trade mills, I think if Forbes and Archie can sustain this level of play and you need more cap, you can then look to o trade Patty.

    As for Forbes, he's a star in my mind already. It's too bad we only got him on a one year contract. I think you start looking go or ways to add him on the roster. Unless he has a meteoric collapse or has an injury, I see him as this year's Gary Neal with like a curry swag.

    Lastly, I'm not impressed with Juice. We all know he can score against this level of compe ion. If working on the fouling is what pop wants to see then the next thing is turnovers. I think it would be smart to pull Kyle after Utah but let Juice continue. Keep juice at the three, move livio to the four and hopefully milutinov to the five, with Forbes and Murray at the guards. Let Archie and Murray fight for the starting spot from day one. Maybe Simmons doesn't play either and bertans starts the three. I think you only pull juice and slomo if the stashed picks arrive.
    Don't tell me SloMo is actually developing as could reasonably be expected of a guy coming into his 3rd season...

    Just taking a shot at the haters - glad to hear it!

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