Issue with trading Simmons is that there's really no point anymore. It would have been an idea during the draft. Now, he'd not bring back anything other than a pick, which would be all right except that he's currently projected to be in the rotation this season. So you'd have to replace that, and I don't see anyone out there who's a lock to be able to do that for the min.
I think there's a point to trading Simmons if he's a sweetener in a deal. Again that's why I said cautiously shop him around (knowing he cld be part of the rotation). The player SA would get in return would have to a contributor, or if Bertans earns a significant role, Simmons will become expendable -- esp with Manu coming back -- in that case getting player back wouldn't be needed.
If Green has another year, Simmons would arguably be the best SG on the roster. Why would we trade him? You won't get a better free agent with the scrubs that are left, much less for 800k.
People are over critical of him for no reason. It's hilarious.
Pop said a few years ago that Mills will be on the team as long as he's around, so don't really count on him being traded.
He also said George Hill was his favorite player.
And he can still be Pop's favorite player in Utah. It's quite different from saying that you'll never trade him as long as you're the coach.
Yep. He's good enough to beast against D-League compe ion, but not good enough to really stand out in the NBA. At age 26, it seems unlikely that he adds much more to his game than he already has.
He has the talent to be an end of the bench, spot-minutes kind of player. Remains to be seen whether that will be with the Spurs for long.
Simmons goes for his second year with the team, his ceiling with SAS is unknown
Last edited by r0drig0lac; 07-06-2016 at 09:09 AM.
Lets hope all that muscle doesn't jack up his shot
Lol...so sad... Especially since we need depth at the 4/5Yes, basically every other big, including Cady Lalanne.
Will Hanlan be added to the summer league team for Utah or Vegas?
Last edited by montgod; 07-06-2016 at 10:13 AM.
he is still young. If he can develop a shot in the next year or two we could get 2 or 3 productive years out of him for cheap before his althelitisism starts to fade. 27 is still young. i think Manu was 25 when he came into the league as a rookie.
Simmons has done plenty to warrant good reviews. Kyle has done plenty to warrant bad reviews. That isn't the argument. The statement was that the constant " stop Kyle trolling " crew is constantly bagging on Simmons.
Spurstalk is so fickle. I can't wait for Forbes to have an off night so I can read all the "Forbes sucks" ... "Forbes is a D-league scrub at best" posts.
Yep, looks like Spurs coaching staff are comparing his footwork with JJ Re :
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/sp...ot-8342502.php
Gotta say, Kyle has looked promising. Hopefully he's ready for a bigger role off the bench. We're gonna need him to step up for the team to have even the slightest chance of taking down GS.
Would be big if we get another shooter off the bench in this Bryn Forbes guy. Anyway to watch the summer league games? Doesn't look like NBA offers any kind of on demand thing. When are the Spurs on NBA TV?
We need a couple of young guys to really blossom this season along with a yet-to-be-identified big.
All the games have been on the ESPNWatch/ESPN3 app and website.
ESPN 3 should have all the games, including replays.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..hope Murray can contribute this year
Perfect, thanks guys!
Simmons' biggest strength could also be his biggest weakness. He's got great handles, and a real talent for getting to the rim and finishing. That threat could give him the opportunity to get teammates easy buckets. To me it looks like he's always looking for his own opportunity first, and he gets too deep into the defense before he recognizes that it isn't there.
It's like a young pitcher with a 98 mph fastball. It usually takes them a couple of seasons to realize that, if you throw it too often, big league hitters will light you up. I don't care how good you handle the ball, NBA defenses aren't going to let you keep getting to the rim play after play. Again, just my opinion, but right now it looks like he has to be convinced that he can't get to the rack before he starts looking elsewhere. I'm not sure it's decision making as much as mindset.
That doesn't diminish the fact that he has great handles, and a real talent for getting to the rim and finishing. That would serve him well on a wide-open team, but it's going to be tough for him to get it past Pop. Manu made Pop crazy with his wild style of play, but Pop put up with it because he brought more positives than negatives. But Manu also modified his game to fit more with Pop's expectations. I think Simmons needs to figure that part out. Personally, I love Simmons, and what he potentially brings to the team. But even I think he would do well to spend some time learning how to benefit the team in other ways.
Simmons is an NBA player who is useful to many teams, I'm sure. Perhaps not a great fit for the Spurs, is all.
To my eyes, the Spurs are intentionally building a roster of snipers, which is one reason I believe the Bourousis rumors. Not that he's a "sniper". But he does have range to serve as a stretch 5.
My su ion requires more development than this quick reply, but the prima facia case is easy to spot. Tony Parker has shot over 40% from 3 the last two seasons, Kawhi will hit at ~45% this season, Green should recover to > 40%, Bertans >40%, and Forbes is at least a 40% shooter from deep.
Mills, Ginobili, Anderson, Gasol, and, if he's added, Bourousis will shoot between 35 and 40% from deep. That's 10 players whom all shoot better than 35% from three.
I'd guess the Spurs are doing this for a variety of reasons. To solve the math problem GS presents, to create more space for Leonard to penetrate, clears space for Aldridge on low block, it's somewhat organic with the players available to team, and, despite their regular season defensive brilliance, the team struggled to keep pace with the Thunder and Warriors in every meeting last season. Without Tim Duncan, it will be difficult to have the same defensive iden y next season. Not that Pop punts on defense, but the team must create advantages elsewhere. This team will look more like the 2012 Spurs.
Maybe Simmons fits this roster as one of the few players who can get to the rim. More space would play to his strengths. But I'm not convinced.
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