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Tim is giving Pop the middle finger & retiring w/ his money instead of taking a paycut when Porker is collecting 30 mills.Don't ruin your career stats playing for a pretender, Tim.
Huh? Mwah? Take on a vet with su ious motivation on a young team with rocky chemistry? No. And trade one of their potential center pieces for the right, plus take on salary?
Tim is giving Pop the middle finger & retiring w/ his money instead of taking a paycut when Porker is collecting 30 mills.Don't ruin your career stats playing for a pretender, Tim.
Tim gets 6 or 7 million vs Tim gets nothing but Spurs get something.
Sounds like a no brainer for Tim.
Only way to take out of the head of the snake. Kill the body and the head will die.Tim is giving Pop the middle finger & retiring w/ his money instead of taking a paycut when Porker is collecting 30 mills.
I hope he plays until the Spurs beg him to leave, until you can't tell the difference between him and Bill Russell.
Him opting out was not that. If he was going to play, him opting out gives the Spurs more flexibility to add to the team for another run (which is for Tim too) & he could have gotten paid just as much (or more). There was a chance he could have gotten paid less as well, but that was only in a scenario where Tim knowingly opted out to pursue free agents to improve his chances of winning.
Tim opting in, only guarantees that he gets at least that 5+M and no more or no less (unless he retires and SA says they do not want to pay him for retirement - then it's moot).
Bring on a veteran that improved their team. He's stated the "process" is over. He traded for him in Phoenix and absolutely can see him wanting him.
He probably wasn't going to play for less than his current salary so in that case it was better that he opted in rather than having his cap hold eat up more cap room than his actually salary which would have been the case had he opted out & not gotten renounced.
As of right now, I could see them just going after Pau w/ the MLE otherwise just giving Manu/D-Worst a raise & offering Boban the MLE. The new additions are going to be a bunch of minimum salary scrubs.
PATFO won't strike until 2017 after the whole spending bonanza levels out, CIA Pop is doing a covert operation for next Summer.
He's still worth his contract. It's nothing like Kobe.
They could offer him nothing.
So, what will the Spurs do if Tim does retire? We'll have no cap space and still need a starting center. Even if we do manage to keep Boban, I have a hard time seeing them planning on going into the season with him as the starter. Guess our options would be to either a) try to get a starting center on a minimum deal (not too promising), or b) move Diaw and/or Mills to make room for someone like Pau.
I just can't imagine Tim caring about money all of the sudden if he was going to play. Like that 4M pay cut by opting out (worst case) is really that much to him (might be)? He could even make it up by doing another 1+1 and retiring next year.He probably wasn't going to play for less than his current salary so in that case it was better that he opted in rather than having his cap hold eat up more cap room than his actually salary which would have been the case had he opted out & not gotten renounced.
As of right now, I could see them just going after Pau w/ the MLE otherwise just giving Manu/D-Worst a raise & offering Boban the MLE. The new additions are going to be a bunch of minimum salary scrubs.
PATFO won't strike until 2017 after the whole spending bonanza levels out, CIA Pop is doing a covert operation for next Summer.
The only scenario where Tim plays for less salary is if he opted out & SA used all that cap space to sign player(s) to improve the team. Then even then, he still could sign a 1+1 and not go backwards at all really.
No he's not. It's all sentimental right now, and confirmation bias. He'll have a double digit game here and there and people will act like they were right but he's been done for a couple years. Sure you can grab some nobody with a similar salary and compare the effects they have on their respective teams but that's not how you should grade it. You should grade it by whether or not the Spurs need 40 year old Tim Duncan to win. They don't. They need someone who can defend, pass and shoot like Tim could and that person isn't out there. So instead they need to move on but they won't. That will be up to Tim as well it should.
Tim doesn't have the top of the key shot any longer.
Tim doesn't shoot the bank shot much, and doesn't hit often when he does.
Tim has a hard time making ing layups
Tim doesn't shoot FTs well
Tim's knees are getting any better and they sucked this year
The fans will run him into the ground to get anything they can from him and pretend it was worth it, just like Kobe fans did Kobe. Kobe helped but he was done 4 years ago. Can't blame Tim or the business of basketball but Tim vs no Tim won't make any difference in the playoffs.
I mean, could SA turncoat and do that? Is it likely enough to really be taken into consideration? I personally don't think so, but it is technically possible.
/sigh with Dworst.He probably wasn't going to play for less than his current salary so in that case it was better that he opted in rather than having his cap hold eat up more cap room than his actually salary which would have been the case had he opted out & not gotten renounced.
As of right now, I could see them just going after Pau w/ the MLE otherwise just giving Manu/D-Worst a raise & offering Boban the MLE. The new additions are going to be a bunch of minimum salary scrubs.
PATFO won't strike until 2017 after the whole spending bonanza levels out, CIA Pop is doing a covert operation for next Summer.
I know its irrational. He wasn't played optimally, in an ideal position and situation for him, but /sigh. Dworst doesn't make sense if they have Boban and Diaw though and we have younger bigs coming in taking spots. I almost feel like if Tim does retire we'll be getting Dworst.
Duncan showed in game 6, when the knee feels close to decent he can still play.
To say his talents have diminished a bunch is wrong. It's all health
Not how this front office works, nor would I want them to either.
I'm saying Tim will make the best choice for the team. If he feels he can contribute and have an impact on the game he will come back. If he feels he can't carry the load of being a starter anymore and is dragging the team down then he'll retire.
SA would have to trade and as it's going now it seems like the most likely way to add players since Tim opting in and Boris having his deal guaranteed means they can't just waive guys for cap space now.
SA will have the MLE to work with along with trades with these developments. They could still stretch Tim's salary if he retires but that seems extra pointless now with Boris not being able to be waived to save 4M(unless they can dump Boris fully guaranteed deal in a trade for no money back which seems less likely now).
Pau, that's the answer.
Behind him as the 5th big when Pau sits to rest, he's old enough too that I assume he'll get the occasional rest game, Milutinov.
Guy was a damn solid big all year and still thought of that way.
Message boarder though thinks he/she is cute with the DWorst stupidity.
I wasn't commenting on the likelihood of it, just saying they could, so my original comment was accurate enough. Tim gets millions vs Tim gets nothing is a real scenario. Maybe Tim doesn't want to leave that up to Peter Holt's wife.
There was no way Tim could have gotten paid more & given the Spurs flexibility by opting out b/c his cap hold is actually larger than his salary. If he got renounced then the Spurs would lose his Bird Right thus they can't go over the cap to re-sign him.
The only way it Tim could have given the Spurs flexibility was by getting renounced & basically playing for the room exception or vet min. PATFO are basically bringing back the old crew b/c they aren't ready to strike in 2016.
I disagree. He's still well worth 6 million in this league. The biggest problem is the offense produces no easy baskets because there is no ball penetration. LMA and Danny are complete non dribblers. Parker can't do anything either. Just look at how valuable Bogut is to GSW. Bogut gets significantly more than him and can't shoot, post-up, or defend mobile guards.
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