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whatever dude. I know what I saw. He is a fine player in certain situations but he was played as a center and he's obviously not, unless you disagree with that. In which case you are the cutie pie one.
If Spurs get Gasol and retain Bobon, we have 3 guys that can only play center and have no way in to play together. They would be picked n rolled to death.
whatever dude. I know what I saw. He is a fine player in certain situations but he was played as a center and he's obviously not, unless you disagree with that. In which case you are the cutie pie one.
He's not even are worse starter so he should feel fine making what he does.
Maybe I'm off-base with my speculation, but I really don't see the Spurs trading Diaw/Mills to be honest. Stein's tweet about the Spurs wanting to keep Diaw seems to back that up as well.
Would they be re-signing Boban with Bird Rights? Or would they potentially have to use the MLE on him?
Correct. They still need someone who mobile enough for that kind of situation.
The league is going small kiddo.
Tim is out there recruiting & I doubt he opts-in just to for the retirement money.
I feel like PATFO are setting up for 2017 thus don't want any long term contracts on the book which means asking players to pick up their options & guaranteeing contracts for next season. Boban is the only player I could see walking since there is some dumb GM that's going to offer him 4yr/40 million.)
No bird rights on him, believe they'd have to eat into the MLE, to which I'd say, adios.
Poster not very bright. Still funny and true.
Tim returning will make watching Tony a little more palatable.
The point is that David West isn't nearly as bad as many people here make him out to be. He's still a solid big, especially on a minimum deal.
The problem is that pairing him with Diaw and expecting him to play center isn't a good strategy. But endlessly criticizing West for the Spurs putting him in that situation seems strange. And besides, like TPark said, West was solid all season long. He was ty against OKC, but so was 3/4 of the team. Just seems weird to me how critical some people here are of West.
Poster not very bright. Still funny and true.
Mind your place kiddo. To the back of the room.
He was ty because he didn't have a good PNR defending center next to him. That's it.
A bad matchup. Yet these band of half wit pocket protector wearing morons act like he's Jack ing Haley
I didn't say it was inaccurate - said it was unlikely. But I digress..
Remember that the MLE is essentially tagged for Boban already. The moment they use any of it on something else, they lose the full right of first refusal. Until they come to a deal, that MLE is going nowhere.
Think "stand pat".
PATFO most likely encouraged him to pick it up b/c they don't want to ask him to play for the minimum. If they are holding off until 2017 then might as well pay Tim & give Manu/D-Worst a pay raise.
For sure, but I was assuming that SA wanted the option for Boban in case things didn't work out with other top FA targets. With Tim's news along with Boris, trade & MLE are the only tools to improve. If they really want Pau, they may have to use MLE on him and that means by to Boban.
I know for now that money is Boban's but I think SA might choose Pau over Boban.
For the purpose of discussion about West, here is my issue. I was fine with West coming back IF we get a mobile center. There is no point pairing him with P.Gasol. So if we can't get a mobile center, then try and get a mobile pf instead of West. Man, having P.Gasol, TD, and Bobon would be awful on switching and hard hedging.
Even if he opt-ed out his cap hold would still count against the cap, he would have to be renounced which means losing his Bird Right.
Pau isn't choosing the Spurs unless Tim is going to be a player/coach like KG.
Disagree. Tim opting out & SA making the other moves (waiving non-guarantees and renouncing cap holds) gave the Spurs 20+M. They could have signed a 12-15M player, then given Tim the other 5M but in 2 year/10M (because he's renounced they would use the actual 5M in cap space they have). He would not only be making the same this year, but getting 5M next year (so 10M for this year essentially).
Even if they used all the cap space on FA's by renouncing Tim & he got the Room Exception that 2 year deal is still worth the same as his 1 year deal today so it's really not going backwards.
Then if SA whiffed on FA's and had the cap space, they just give Tim/Manu/West massive 1 year raises which solves that problem too.
There were plenty of ways Tim could have been no worse off or even much better off IMO.
The only concern is if he thought there was any chance that SA would not pay him if he opted out which seems really unlikely. Or - he knows he's going to retire which then he gets the 5M which seems likely to me.
To me that would be a no-brainer. Interested in hearing others thoughts on this. Although I doubt Pau settles for that much less, when the market is so ripe with cash and he already has the rings so chasing a le might not be that high on his list. He would have to really want to be here, which apparently the signs point to yes. I just think the plan was to come here if the Spurs could free up cash and Duncan retired. He already respects the organization. I mean if the Spurs and GS both strike out on Durant and Pau has to decide between the Spurs and Warriors for the same money who do you choose? Golden State has a more diverse market and Pau already chose a bigger market before, although it was for a bigger deal. We'll see.
I agree overall - was just saying that in what I wrote (and what Chinook pointed out about Boban) I didn't think it was a lock Boban got the money if SA was really going to find success in luring someone like Pau (even if it's not likely)
We will see what Tim ends up doing; Woj nailed the Tim picking up his option thing subtly so him mentioning Tim might drag his decision into Free Agency is something to expect at this point (which sucks some for SA the team).
If he retires which I think is likely, SA is in a weird spot and we will see if they can even make any trades that make sense. I don't know how they would replace Tim and pay him his money without cap space and Boris being guaranteed. For that reason and others, I really hope Tim plays since that money is now spoken for anyways.
Seems like the band is getting back together (whether Tim plays or not) with minor tweaks like brining some of the younger stashes over to replace the older end of bench players.
I really hope SA doesn't stand pat beyond this year though - that would be really wasteful of LMA considering his age and could cause problems with him since he came to win les.
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