Garcia: Manu Ginobili has announced he's coming back to the NBA

[SAGirl]

I am actually glad Manu is back TBH. I just hope Pop doesn't rely on him a whole lot and develops other players, and that is really on Pop. I think Manu was already deferring last season. Hopefully the youngsters continue getting better.

If we strike out on Durant we might as well pay Manu. All the rookies are on very cheap deals, and we are not getting anyone better than Manu to mentor all our rookies and produce within our culture.

[313]

With this contracts teams giving out of course he would
He is greedy

His agent said he knows what the market is
He wants paid

[Juan]

If the Spurs are going to have to get into overpaying for prior good deeds then give the money to Tim. Makes me sick to think Manu wants more than what Tim is willing to take.

[TheGreatYacht]

If the Spurs are going to have to get into overpaying for prior good deeds then give the money to Tim. Makes me sick to think Manu wants more than what Tim is willing to take.

He already rode Duncan's back all the way to the ground, now this....

Selfish POS

[SAGirl]

This is a bad post. Yes, players need rhythm but they also have to earn playing time. None of the young players on the team have shown that they are deserving of taking signifiant minutes from the veterans on the team. People like to harp on Pop, but when he has young guys that are pushing the vets he plays them. Guys like Green, Kawhi, Tiago, and Hill all have earned PT by working their butt off in practice an then getting into games and showing that they can contribute.

KA has not shown that. Simmons has not shown that. Doesn't mean they can't (although I'm very doubtful of either) but I don't blame Pop for playing guys who have proven they can play at the highest level over those two.

Just b/c a player is young doesn't mean they should be trotted out for 25 minutes a night so they can get a rhythm and see if they can contribute.

They did show they can play, but they are not going to take time from Kawhi who is an MVP candidate. Green was terrible for sections of the season and actually gifting time to develop Simmons, but you are right in that once Simmons played enough his deficiencies were exposed, ensuring that Danny stayed relevant. Beyond that Danny is a proven vet and paid $10 mill a year, he deserved and got, the chance to get back to form.

It's a tall task to edge Manu himself out, who played really well last season and is a HoF player, so even when they have game, they didn't play enough in games that mattered. In other teams they both likely would have played a lot more. And they actually played a lot TBH, its just the quality of minutes they got was questionable to get a guy to perform in the playoffs and the roles they played when the roster was complete was also not ideal. It s a huge wide gap between garbage time to the playoffs.

Simmons is looking to get paid next summer. He's in short schedule. We shall see what he has.

[SAGirl]

If the Spurs are going to have to get into overpaying for prior good deeds then give the money to Tim. Makes me sick to think Manu wants more than what Tim is willing to take.

Tim is probably getting paid to retire. No need to worry about that.

[ducks]

People think tp contact is bad just see manus

[ernest787]

They did show they can play, but they are not going to take time from Kawhi who is an MVP candidate. Green was terrible for sections of the season and actually gifting time to develop Simmons, but you are right in that once Simmons played enough his deficiencies were exposed, ensuring that Danny stayed relevant. Beyond that Danny is a proven vet and paid $10 mill a year, he deserved and got, the chance to get back to form.

It's a tall task to edge Manu himself out, who played really well last season and is a HoF player, so even when they have game, they didn't play enough in games that mattered. In other teams they both likely would have played a lot more. And they actually played a lot TBH, its just the quality of minutes they got was questionable to get a guy to perform in the playoffs and the roles they played when the roster was complete was also not ideal. It s a huge wide gap between garbage time to the playoffs.

Simmons is looking to get paid next summer. He's in short schedule. We shall see what he has.

So you are back tracking on everything you originally said. You can't call out Pop and say the young guys should have played more but then say "Well you can't take minutes from Kawhi and Manu had a great regular season so it's tough to take minutes from him."

If Simmons and KA were not consistent enough to take the minutes from the people in front of them then they are not going to get the minutes. While we all want the young guys to play more, they have to take the minutes and so far neither of them have been up to that task.

The hope is that Murray will come in and be able to do that. This year is probably not likely but hopefully next year he will be in position to challenge for the back up PG role at least.

[ElNono]

If the Spurs are going to have to get into overpaying for prior good deeds then give the money to Tim. Makes me sick to think Manu wants more than what Tim is willing to take.

who said he wants more? Tim opted in on a $5.6m deal, that's not bad for a 40+ years old.

[SAGirl]

So you are back tracking on everything you originally said. You can't call out Pop and say the young guys should have played more but then say "Well you can't take minutes from Kawhi and Manu had a great regular season so it's tough to take minutes from him."

If Simmons and KA were not consistent enough to take the minutes from the people in front of them then they are not going to get the minutes. While we all want the young guys to play more, they have to take the minutes and so far neither of them have been up to that task.

The hope is that Murray will come in and be able to do that. This year is probably not likely but hopefully next year he will be in position to challenge for the back up PG role at least.

Pop is also supremely loyal to veterans. At times Boban was a better option than Dwest and/or Diaw. He wasn't going to edge them out. Diaw actually gifted minutes to others with his coasting. Anyways, I am not backtracking. I have made the same point all past season.

[SAGirl]

who said he wants more? Tim opted in on a $5.6m deal, that's not bad for a 40+ years old.

More like 6.3 due to incentives. Still not a huge difference.

[beirmeistr]

People think tp contact is bad just see manus

Relax, Ducks. Finding out Manu is back must be a shock to your nerves, but his salary will be modest compared to your hero's salary.

[TheGreatYacht]

Relax, Ducks. Finding out Manu is back must be a shock to your nerves, but his salary will be modest compared to your hero's salary.

Manure earned 14,000,000 when he turned the ball over 8 times in 2013

No matter how bad Parker plays, it'll be a bargain compared to that tbh

[skulls138]

manu if he wants a payday. tosb already preventing the youth movement, now he wants to take more cap space than he is worth

It could be just as much of a mistake to just throw the youth out there and say perform or youre gone. We're being smart by taking it easy and seeing what weve got already before we get someone new. Bringing back the vets helps us do that and stay relevant (hopefully) while teaching these youngsters how to play. You do realize that todays NBA talent sucks fundamentally dont you? Its because organizations have no patience.

[SPURt]

Let's hold off on crucifying Manu until we all see some numbers. Of course his agent wants him to get money, he's getting a percentage.

How can people hate Manu for 2013 when the two close out games in 2014 (OKC/Miami) had everything to do with Manu ballin? A lot of guys can be blamed for 2013, Manu included, but Pop coached poorly, Kawhi also missed free throws, Tim missed a bunny, it was a perfect ass storm.

In 2014, when Manu entered game 5 the Spurs were looking like balls. Manu was the difference. He yammed it on Bosh so hard his circulatory system still isn't working correctly.

[bic50]

i could care less what his numbers are much like your takes

damn

[bic50]

I wonder if tim comes back. I hope he does. Also greatcuck being a little per usual.

[skulls138]

Let's hold off on crucifying Manu until we all see some numbers. Of course his agent wants him to get money, he's getting a percentage.

How can people hate Manu for 2013 when the two close out games in 2014 (OKC/Miami) had everything to do with Manu ballin? A lot of guys can be blamed for 2013, Manu included, but Pop coached poorly, Kawhi also missed free throws, Tim missed a bunny, it was a perfect ass storm.

In 2014, when Manu entered game 5 the Spurs were looking like balls. Manu was the difference. He yammed it on Bosh so hard his circulatory system still isn't working correctly.

Cant blame Parker for '13. If Tony has anykind of ego, hes still sore. Manu took what was a heroic effort on Parkers part and squandered it with unfathomably bad play and then grabbed that missed glory for himself in '14.

[SPURt]

Cant blame Parker for '13. If Tony has anykind of ego, hes still sore. Manu took what was a heroic effort on Parkers part and squandered it with unfathomably bad play and then grabbed that missed glory for himself in '14.

I wouldn't blame Parker for 13. A lot of players deserve blame, Ginobili certainly not least of which. Over the years they've all played a part in the miss championships. It's basketball but I sure as enjoyed 14 more than the other 4. Ginobili and his style of play made the beautiful game beautiful.

This is is like Warriors fans hating Steph for ting the bed this year. It's hard to win chips.

[ulosturedge]

Didn't he just play for like 2.8mil last year and you guys are calling him greedy. You guys just wanted him to play for the same money this year after all the money these other scrubs are getting lol. I don't fault him for wanting more. As long as it's not more then 5mil.

[elemento]

I know ElNono has to feed his kids, but 12m/year for Manu is crazy talk and I love him.

He shouldn't make more money than TD at all. That's the ceiling.

If he wants to join the overpaying party of this ridiculous FA, he will probably need to retire playing for a team willing to pay him 10m+. I don't think he should play for peanuts, but i'd lose some respect for him if he leaves to play in a team for $.

[Chillen]

He's got a good 3 years in him of playing in the NBA left I think, but maybe this is his last NBA season. Great news!

[SupremeGuy]

lol the anti-Kawhi and anti-Manu trolls are a ing cancer

[rjv]

lol the anti-Kawhi and anti-Manu trolls are a ing cancer

Indeed.

[BillMc]

lol the anti-Kawhi and anti-Manu trolls are a ing cancer

And the anti-Parker, and the anti-Pop.... So many factions here...

You'd think the franchise never had any success.