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    you thought Kirk wasn't that bad?

    He can't even play in the Falkland Islands league, Tbh

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    By the way, after not playing in 2 years, Lorbek gets hurt in warmups

    Don't know why RC gave that pussy a chance over Ndoye

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    you thought Kirk wasn't that bad?

    He can't even play in the Falkland Islands league, Tbh
    I pointed out what he did well. Also what he didn't do well. You said something meaningless and insulting, like basically every other basketball-related post you've ever made here.

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    I pointed out what he did well. Also what he didn't do well. You said something meaningless and insulting, like basically every other basketball-related post you've ever made here.
    "His biggest problem is that he looked like he really wasn't ready to play 20 minutes of basketball."

    If you thought that was his biggest problem...

    He got outrebound by a shooting guard, yeah such a hard nose for the ball. He doesn't play good defense, actually. How does he make the team better? By ball watching, not rebounding, not playing defense, and having empty stats?

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    you thought Kirk wasn't that bad?

    He can't even play in the Falkland Islands league, Tbh
    Agreed, dude doesnt even deserve a spot in the roster. Hes slow af and except for a couple of off rebounds, he didnt do much

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    Agreed, dude doesnt even deserve a spot in the roster. Hes slow af and except for a couple of off rebounds, he didnt do much
    OP was overly critical of Simmons, and made Kirk look like a million bucks. I hope people don't go by his summary and get fooled. Kirk ing sucked.

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    Imo forbes got the best shot of making an nba team on this roster, his shot looked smooth, and utilized screens really well. Its only 1 game but he reminds me of a poor man's gary neal/re

    im surprised people liked what they saw from arci, i see a shooter whos gonna have a tough time getting his shot off in the nba

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    "His biggest problem is that he looked like he really wasn't ready to play 20 minutes of basketball."

    If you thought that was his biggest problem...

    He got outrebound by a shooting guard, yeah such a hard nose for the ball. He doesn't play good defense, actually. How does he make the team better? By ball watching, not rebounding, not playing defense, and having empty stats?
    You know, dude, it's really obvious to everyone that actually watched the game that you didn't. You're bagging on his rebounding when he got at least six tapouts for teammates, three or four to keep the ball for the offense.

    Again, you have yet to make a single observation that means anything. Do you realize that your role on this forum is to be a blithering idiot that people laugh at? This is how you choose to spend your time?

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    OP was overly critical of Simmons, and made Kirk look like a million bucks. I hope people don't go by his summary and get fooled. Kirk ing sucked.
    Simmons is a rotation player for the Spurs, who is expected to take over Manu Ginobili's role. Kirk just played his first game for the organization, and has just north of zero chance of making an NBA roster. They are in completely different categories, which is why I listed them in, well, different categories. Your reading comprehension is right there with your sports opinions.

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    You know, dude, it's really obvious to everyone that actually watched the game that you didn't. You're bagging on his rebounding when he got at least six tapouts for teammates, three or four to keep the ball for the offense.

    Again, you have yet to make a single observation that means anything. Do you realize that your role on this forum is to be a blithering idiot that people laugh at? This is how you choose to spend your time?
    all you do is insult, TGY.

    * goes on and insults *

    Listen, got idgaf what you think. Quit doing game summaries, they ain't your thing. You're about as vanilla as it gets tbh.

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    Listen, got idgaf what you think.
    Yet you can't stop posting in the thread because you think 1-7 from three point range and 4 turnovers against summer league scrubs is acceptable for the backup shooting guard.

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    Yet you can't stop posting in the thread because you think 1-7 from three point range and 4 turnovers against summer league scrubs is acceptable for the backup shooting guard.
    I don't give a about your estrogen filled takes

    Just clowning your ty view of the game. Quit making game summaries.

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    I agree with TGY. OV's assessment of the game seems biased or skewed.

    Kirk sucked imo. He is too lumbering and slow out there. I thought Forbes did good. He shot the ball really well last night and his stroke looks smooth. He can dribble so he's got good handles. If he keeps it up he looks like another shoot first PG in the making. KA looked about the same to me. I did notice that he is bulking up. Maybe the FO realizes he won't ever be able to keep up with the SF of the league. Simmons still at his best when he's attacking the rim. His 3 point shot was lacking and I guess his decision making is still a work in progress.

    Where the was LJC and Nikola Milutinov? All of our previous draft picks were MIA. I knew Murray was gonna be there but I expected these other guys to show up.

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    Good review. Thanks on doing this. I can't really add much. You were pretty complete. Most of my comments are elsewhere and it would be repe ive.

    Simms real talent is getting to the basket and he showed that but nothing else. He was 1-7 on 3s. It's clear he's been encouraged to not pass up the 3 pts shots but not all were open and some jumpshots coming off a screen or off the dribble were ill advised and early in the shot clock I believe? I agree with the same problems on defense we have seen. He does have a skill the team needs but is he really going to get the ball away from Manu? He doesn't look like he should.

    Will skip Anderson entirely bc I already talk to much about him. Ok, you got me, only one thing bc I can't resist. I hope that jumpshot of his stays that smooth.

    I wasn't that impressed with Kirk initially but I agree with the intangibles, the tap outs, box outs, screen setting.

    I liked both guards. Forbes stood out. He hustled for loose balls, rebounds, stuff you would expect a guy like JSimms to show up and do, but he didn't.

    No one else caught my attention for now.

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    I liked both guards. Forbes stood out. He hustled for loose balls, rebounds, stuff you would expect a guy like JSimms to show up and do, but he didn't.
    Since Arcidiacono has already been signed to a 2-year contract, he may have just stood aside to allow Forbes to shine.

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    I agree with TGY. OV's assessment of the game seems biased or skewed.

    Kirk sucked imo. He is too lumbering and slow out there. I thought Forbes did good. He shot the ball really well last night and his stroke looks smooth. He can dribble so he's got good handles. If he keeps it up he looks like another shoot first PG in the making. KA looked about the same to me. I did notice that he is bulking up. Maybe the FO realizes he won't ever be able to keep up with the SF of the league. Simmons still at his best when he's attacking the rim. His 3 point shot was lacking and I guess his decision making is still a work in progress.

    Where the was LJC and Nikola Milutinov? All of our previous draft picks were MIA. I knew Murray was gonna be there but I expected these other guys to show up.
    good takes

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    Anderson was dominant. His shot is improved.

    Simmons was rusty, but still an exceptional finisher and passer. No doubt he eventually puts it together.

    Forbes is a diamond in the rough. His scoring ability is real, and his confidence shooting the ball is incredible for an undrafted rookie. His defense looked pretty bad, especially fighting through screens. However, that shooting is too valuable. Expect to see a lot of Forbes call ups from Austin.

    Nobody else on this particular SL squad is worth a damn. Especially that Alex Kirk, dude was a bumbling fool out there.

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    I don't onow this kirk dude..But is he white by any chance? Could explain the bias

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    Ok read a lot of comments on Kyle and it's stuff I hadn't read b4 between ElNono and Chinook so I will chime in after all (Of course! )

    I don't know what Pop has in mind for Kyle but he can most definitely score and he can shoot. He can also pass. He had nice passes to big men inside that could not finish or catch bc they were caught unawares. He found JSimms on a nice cut to the basket that resulted in fouls drawn for Simms. He's racked up assists in the RS it's not like there's a question that he can pass. The questions he had to answer here were can he shoot and can be score, or make the right play. Offensively he pretty much did.

    He's criticized but consider all other bigs at that game. None were as versatile. Trey Lyles could shoot but ended up 4-14 once he didn't get open on a PnP or he cooled down that was the end.

    Kyle in contrast is a versatile scorer. He can shoot from anywhere, hook shots, mid range, off the dribble, draw fouls. His weakness was the 3. We saw 2 coming off screens, one off the dribble. That's actually a versatile scorer. On top of that he can pass. If anything he always seems too unselfish in the RS.

    His tremendous weakness was that he passed up an inordinate amount of good 3s he got. If that jumpshot of his stays that smooth and he keeps taking his 3s he'll be fine with anybody. In fact he might start looking like a hot commodity to trade if the team so wanted... but I don't think that they will though bc if we had a hot commodity that was 23 years old in the season, that's probably a guy we should keep.

    Beyond that he was put in spots on purpose but many times the ball found him within the offense. He wasn't playing outside of what they were doing.

    I disagree with Nono. The bench needs a featured scorer. The lack thereof was a problem and Manu cannot be that guy. Maybe the problem for Nono is that Kyle doesn't need to be set up by Manu to score at all. He's one guy Manu doesn't make better and Nono hates that.

    It's not like Kyle was wildly inefficient in the RS. It's not like he played badly when Manu got a busted ball. His flaw was that he passed up 3 pts shots too often. With him hitting the 3, he would look to increase his scoring production just on that. Not even needing to shoot in volume. I think Nono is starting to get jealous Manu is going to become redundant TBH. You seem too intent on hiding him behind Kawhi when he probably will play a fair amount with him at times.

    I never saw him as a scorer b4 bc he's too unselfish a player but if the bench needs scoring and that's what Pop wants that's what he'll do.

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    I don't onow this kirk dude..But is he white by any chance? Could explain the bias
    As a matter of fact, he is. You might be on to something man

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    I disagree with Nono. The bench needs a featured scorer. The lack thereof was a problem and Manu cannot be that guy. Maybe the problem for Nono is that Kyle doesn't need to be set up by Manu to score at all. He's one guy Manu doesn't make better and Nono hates that.
    The issue w/ Kyle/Manu is the same as Iggy/Livingston, Iggy makes everyone better except Livingston since he isn't a spot up shooter.

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    The issue w/ Kyle/Manu is the same as Iggy/Livingston, Iggy makes everyone better except Livingston since he isn't a spot up shooter.
    Yet Livingston kills everyone one on one pretty much. I think they can coexist but Kyle needs to be more aggressive. Manu is 39 and we have seen how that movie ended two seasons in a row. It's not like it's going to get better for MAnu all of a sudden. It's encouraging that Kyle is shooting the 3. More power for our bench. Manu was already spotting up for 3s himself. The problem is that the bench featured scorer was Patty.

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    Imo forbes got the best shot of making an nba team on this roster, his shot looked smooth, and utilized screens really well. Its only 1 game but he reminds me of a poor man's gary neal/re

    im surprised people liked what they saw from arci, i see a shooter whos gonna have a tough time getting his shot off in the nba
    Forbes has a slighter build than either Neal or Re , so I think he'll have trouble as a pure SG in the NBA. I really liked his scoring ability, but he might have to show some PG skills or be allowed to play alongside a bigger facilitator that can guard the 2 on D.

    Arci was clearly in distribution mode all night, constantly probing the D to get it to the right guy at the right time. IMO he looked nothing like a shooter. To me, he looked like a PG who only takes shots as a last resort. I'm interested to see how he runs the show when Anderson and Simmons eventually take a seat and Arci can take on a bigger role.

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    You know, dude, it's really obvious to everyone that actually watched the game that you didn't. You're bagging on his rebounding when he got at least six tapouts for teammates, three or four to keep the ball for the offense.

    Again, you have yet to make a single observation that means anything. Do you realize that your role on this forum is to be a blithering idiot that people laugh at? This is how you choose to spend your time?
    Kirk looked nervous af out there. He couldn't catch the ball and when he did it looked like he was confused. He definitely had a nose for the ball though. It was constantly hitting him in the face.

    That being said, I think he just needs to get comfortable and settle his game down.

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    "His biggest problem is that he looked like he really wasn't ready to play 20 minutes of basketball."

    If you thought that was his biggest problem...

    He got outrebound by a shooting guard, yeah such a hard nose for the ball. He doesn't play good defense, actually. How does he make the team better? By ball watching, not rebounding, not playing defense, and having empty stats?
    I agree that Kirk looked terrible - not sure he is even D-League material. Possibly lowest level of Euroball. But his rebounding stats are misleading. ONE thing he did very well was tip rebound out to our guys. Plays won't be there in the big league against guys who can leap and board. But he did do that ONE thing well last night.

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