religion of peace again

Originally Posted by Blake

Why can't you answer my question?

Why didn't you answer mine?

Let's try it again.

Just any random page from the Quran.

Ok, pages 388-389

Can those who enjoy such bliss be like those who abide in the Fire and are given boiling water to drink so that it tears their bowels.

I'm stopping right there. Are you kidding me?

Wow!

Originally Posted by Blake

His verse wasn't random. Hence the scoff.

And you know this why?

And this would be an issue for you why?

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Is this how your convo with your wife went when you saw her with a man?

Only a total moron would tell that story on the internet. What was Blake thinking?

2 Answers


While God did command nations to kill, it's important to remember that he never commanded individuals to kill devoid of their representing a nation.


So no, I don't think you could say that it is legit for any single individual to claim that God commanded them to kill. On the contrary, one of the ten commandments is, "You shall not murder." (Exodus 20:13). The word that God uses for murder is different than the word that is used to mean "kill" when it is carried out in war.


So to answer your question, yes. You can deny their claim. They were not told by God to murder.
You can read more about the words used here.

This is what is written on the back cover of this Quran.

The main themes of the Quran are enlightenment, closeness to God, peace and spirituality.

Hahahahahahaha!

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Then your moral relativism makes no sense, given that Islam is a murder ideology.

false premise

Originally Posted by Avante

Look how much better off the world would be without me in it.

fify

Originally Posted by spurraider21

false premise

It's not a false premise; that's precisely what has been argued.

Originally Posted by Avante

Why didn't you answer mine?

I asked mine first. And you avoiding it pretty much confirms you are purposely ignoring the chop chop kill kill in the bible.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

It's not a false premise; that's precisely what has been argued.

No, you made it as a universal statement of fact. You're really stupid.

Originally Posted by Blake

No, you made it as a universal statement of fact. You're really stupid.

It's an assessment supported by the facts.

How do you not get that you're ten leagues below me, cuck?

Sad.

Originally Posted by Avante

2 Answers


While God did command nations to kill, it's important to remember that he never commanded individuals to kill devoid of their representing a nation.


So no, I don't think you could say that it is legit for any single individual to claim that God commanded them to kill. On the contrary, one of the ten commandments is, "You shall not murder." (Exodus 20:13). The word that God uses for murder is different than the word that is used to mean "kill" when it is carried out in war.


So to answer your question, yes. You can deny their claim. They were not told by God to murder.
You can read more about the words used here.

No, God had his people kill other people including women and children.

You can use that exact same spin job on the Quran.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

It's an assessment supported by the facts.

How do you not get that you're ten leagues below me, cuck?

Sad.

It's your assessment only. You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Avante

This is what is written on the back cover of this Quran.

The main themes of the Quran are enlightenment, closeness to God, peace and spirituality.

Hahahahahahaha!

Lol you have a Quran that you read daily.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

And you know this why?

And this would be an issue for you why?

Because it's a shtick he's done here for years.

It's not an issue for me. It's an lol.

You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Blake

It's your assessment only. You're an idiot.

It's a ground-swell assesment, jackass.

How do you not get that you're ten leagues below me?

Originally Posted by Blake

Because it's a shtick he's done here for years.

It's not an issue for me. It's an lol.

You're an idiot.

You're an idiot that calls it schtick instead of simply going to the source. Violence is a consistent theme in the quran. Is it your insatiable need to cuck that makes you ignore this reality? Sad.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

You're an idiot that calls it schtick instead of simply going to the source. Violence is a consistent theme in the quran. Is it your insatiable need to cuck that makes you ignore this reality? Sad.

Violence and peace are themes in the quran. Violence and peace are themes in the Bible. He's not randomly picking a page. He's cherry picking it. It's his shtick.

He's an idiot. You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Blake

Violence and peace are themes in the quran. Violence and peace are themes in the Bible. He's not randomly picking a page. He's cherry picking it. It's his shtick.

He's an idiot. You're an idiot.

The point of random page is to show it's not cherry picking. And if theme isn't the word, then encompassing, prevalent, consistent are the words to describe the violence in the quran. Stop calling people idiots and accept that you're just not a smart person.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

It's not a false premise; that's precisely what has been argued.

It has not been argued. It has been presumed by you.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

The point of random page is to show it's not cherry picking.

Yeah I know the point. I don't believe him. You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

It has not been argued. It has been presumed by you.

1. It was argued that Islam is a murder cult and that the quran is a murder manual ( , there's pretty much 97 pages of thread on this).
2. You said that the Bible is equivalent in encouraging murder, but you say Christianity is not a murder ideology.

You explain your own disconnect, then. Since you're clearly getting hung up on something.

Originally Posted by Blake

Yeah I know the point. I don't believe him. You're an idiot.

You don't believe him for why? Have you read the quran?

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

1. It was argued that Islam is a murder cult and that the quran is a murder manual ( , there's pretty much 97 pages of thread on this).
2. You said that the Bible is equivalent in encouraging murder, but you say Christianity is not a murder ideology.

You explain your own disconnect, then. Since you're clearly getting hung up on something.

I'll break it down for you.

I disagree with point #1, that Islam is a murder cult.

To support the disputed claim that its a murder cult, people have presented violent verses from the Quran. I pointed out how weak that argument is, as you can find similar violent/murderous verses in the bible against nonbelievers. I don't think either of those are convincing to prove that the religions are murder cults. And if you're going to take those select quran verses as proof for the murderous cult of islam, it would only be consistent to hold those select bible versus as proof for the murderous cult of christianity.

I personally wouldn't make that leap for either religion... which is why I said I don't actually believe Christianity is a murderous cult, for the same reason I don't think Islam is.