religion of peace again

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

You don't believe him for why? Have you read the quran?

He doesn't believe that Avante pulls pages at random.

It's been do ented here that he doesn't. Pretty convincingly.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

You don't believe him for why? Have you read the quran?

Lol you're such an idiot.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

1. It was argued that Islam is a murder cult and that the quran is a murder manual ( , there's pretty much 97 pages of thread on this).
2. You said that the Bible is equivalent in encouraging murder, but you say Christianity is not a murder ideology.

You explain your own disconnect, then. Since you're clearly getting hung up on something.

He'll explain it and it'll go over your head.















Because you're an idiot.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

I'll break it down for you.

I disagree with point #1, that Islam is a murder cult.

To support the disputed claim that its a murder cult, people have presented violent verses from the Quran. I pointed out how weak that argument is, as you can find similar violent/murderous verses in the bible against nonbelievers. I don't think either of those are convincing to prove that the religions are murder cults. And if you're going to take those select quran verses as proof for the murderous cult of islam, it would only be consistent to hold those select bible versus as proof for the murderous cult of christianity.

I personally wouldn't make that leap for either religion... which is why I said I don't actually believe Christianity is a murderous cult, for the same reason I don't think Islam is.

"select verses"

What is the number of murder verses it takes before the quran is considered a murder manual?

Also: Your argument has been much more predicated on moral equivalency than the quran is good. But since you've qualified that the Bible is not a murder manual, you can drop the moral equivalency schtick. It's obviously just meant to be a distraction, then.

Originally Posted by Blake

Lol you're such an idiot.

Spare me you're cuckbacks, bruh.

Originally Posted by Blake

He'll explain it and it'll go over your head.















Because you're an idiot.

Get him big brother!

You're such garbage.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

He doesn't believe that Avante pulls pages at random.

It's been do ented here that he doesn't. Pretty convincingly.

Regardless of whether that is true or not; I've over-viewed the quran and I can attest that the violence against non-muslims is extremely prevalent and that it is a core tenant of the dogma. You know as well as I do that an attack on avante is hinging an argument on ad hominem.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

"select verses"

What is the number of murder verses it takes before the quran is considered a murder manual?

i would say it should be the primary tenet/message

Also: Your argument has been much more predicated on moral equivalency than the quran is good. But since you've qualified that the Bible is not a murder manual, you can drop the moral equivalency schtick. It's obviously just meant to be a distraction, then.

i dont know that i put up a moral equivalency shtick. i'm just saying if you're going to accept a certain piece of evidence to criticize islam, it would only be consistent to do the same for all other religions, including christianity.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

i would say it should be the primary tenet/message

i dont know that i put up a moral equivalency shtick. i'm just saying if you're going to accept a certain piece of evidence to criticize islam, it would only be consistent to do the same for all other religions, including christianity.

It is; read it some time. I personally haven't for a while cos it's flat out sickening; but anyone who has picked up the book gets that. Sure, some Muslims have enough humanity in them not to take that primary tenant to heart; but it is. It's not subtle, bro.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

It is; read it some time. I personally haven't for a while cos it's flat out sickening; but anyone who has picked up the book gets that.

So you haven't picked up a bible.

You're an idiot.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Get him big brother!

You're such garbage.

You're unintelligent. That's on you.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

It is; read it some time. I personally haven't for a while cos it's flat out sickening; but anyone who has picked up the book gets that. Sure, some Muslims have enough humanity in them not to take that primary tenant to heart; but it is. It's not subtle, bro.

i dont doubt that violence is prevalent in the quran. its a book written by a warmongering/conquering tribe

that said, it's inaccurate to say that the quran teaches its followers to murder nonbelievers en masse.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Regardless of whether that is true or not; I've over-viewed the quran and I can attest that the violence against non-muslims is extremely prevalent and that it is a core tenant of the dogma. You know as well as I do that an attack on avante is hinging an argument on ad hominem.

avante isn't to be taken seriously because he's never shown a shred of intellectual honestly. he constantly makes things up, is called out on it, and pretends it never happened. he regurgitates the same things, year after year, despite having been demonstrably proven wrong on certain things. he's not worth engaging because it's never a conversation. it's talking to a wall who has pre-programmed responses to everything.

you aren't too far off, tbh. anytime you're pushed to verify a claim, you play the redpill card

Originally Posted by Blake

So you haven't picked up a bible.

You're an idiot.

We're talking about the quran, dip . But you're basing a claim on nothing all the same.

Originally Posted by Blake

You're unintelligent. That's on you.

More cuckbacks.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

i dont doubt that violence is prevalent in the quran. its a book written by a warmongering/conquering tribe

that said, it's inaccurate to say that the quran teaches its followers to murder nonbelievers en masse.

So, you somehow think that warmongers who killed en masse sent out a message to not kill nonbelievers en masse? You're wrong, btw. I don't keep quran verses at the ready to prove it right away; but do you see how ing re ed your assumption is?

But to be fair; you are being definitive; and I can at least respect that (compared to other BS that goes on here).

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

We're talking about the quran, dip . But you're basing a claim on nothing all the same.

I'm talking about the bible. You haven't picked it up. You're stupid.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

So, you somehow think that warmongers who killed en masse sent out a message to not kill nonbelievers en masse? You're wrong, btw. I don't keep quran verses at the ready to prove it; but do you see how ing re ed your assumption is?

you're stupid. What a seriously stupid post.

And you're too lazy to get smarter.

Originally Posted by Blake

I'm talking about the bible. You haven't picked it up. You're stupid.

I've read the Bible. That's how I know Christianity didn't make you a cuck.

Originally Posted by Blake

you're stupid. What a seriously stupid post.

And you're too lazy to get smarter.

Ten leagues, bro.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

So, you somehow think that warmongers who killed en masse sent out a message to not kill nonbelievers en masse? You're wrong, btw. I don't keep quran verses at the ready to prove it right away; but do you see how ing re ed your assumption is?

they were writing a religious text, not The Art of War. it would also appear inconsistent that those same warmongers would write "Whosoever has killed a soul, it is as though he has murdered all of mankind"

and yet they did.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

they were writing a religious text, not The Art of War. it would also appear inconsistent that those same warmongers would write "Whosoever has killed a soul, it is as though he has murdered all of mankind"

and yet they did.

What you conveniently leave out is that Allah is speaking of "the children of Israel" IE Muslims.

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

What you conveniently leave out is that Allah is speaking of "the children of Israel" IE Muslims.

Also says there is no compulsion in religion.

And if you're going to find contradictory passages, I'm sure you'll have no trouble doing so. Religious texts tend to be littered with them. And if you're going to say its hypocritical to say there's no compulsion in religion while also punishing apostates, I'd agree with you. It's moronic.

It's true that infidels/non-believers are second-rate citizens in islamic rule. They have to pay an infidel tax . I'ts absurd.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

Also says there is no compulsion in religion.

And if you're going to find contradictory passages, I'm sure you'll have no trouble doing so. Religious texts tend to be littered with them.

A contradiction on the limits of Muslims killing Muslims? Maybe there are some in the quran (maybe not). There is no contradiction when it comes to the subjigation of Kaffir (non Muslims) and ultimate killing of them if they do not submit. It's a pretty sound doctrine. You said it yourself; it's a book made by warmongers; wtf would you expect?

Originally Posted by spurraider21

It's true that infidels/non-believers are second-rate citizens in islamic rule. They have to pay an infidel tax . I'ts absurd.

Off the top of my head it is three choices.

1. Pay the ten percent tax or be enslaved.
2. Convert.
3. Be killed.

It's obviously a barbaric religion, son.