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    New lows, tbh.

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    Can you imagine if Parker got completely outplayed by his counterpart as bad as Kobe used to outplay Ginobili?

    2003 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 32.3/5.0/3.7 on 43%
    Ginobili: 11.7/3.2/2.5 on 51%

    2004 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 26.3/6.3/5.8 on 46%
    Ginobili: 14.7/6.2/3.7 on 48%

    2008 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 29.2/5.6/3.8 on 53%
    Ginobili: 12.6/3.2/3.0 on 36%

    Wow.
    Pathetic. Manure was more of Rick Fox's enemy tbh... This comparison is just embarrassing

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    Can you imagine if Parker got completely outplayed by his counterpart as bad as Kobe used to outplay Ginobili?

    2003 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 32.3/5.0/3.7 on 43%
    Ginobili: 11.7/3.2/2.5 on 51%

    2004 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 26.3/6.3/5.8 on 46%
    Ginobili: 14.7/6.2/3.7 on 48%

    2008 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 29.2/5.6/3.8 on 53%
    Ginobili: 12.6/3.2/3.0 on 36%

    Wow.
    Manu had better %FG 2 out of 3

    TP P.E.R playoffs 6,5

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    More dangerous on any given night Manu.

    More consistent. Tony.

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    GIVE IT TO GINOBILI beirmeistr's Avatar
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    More dangerous on any given night Manu.

    More consistent. Tony.
    greater wrist strength, tp, from all his dribbling

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    Manu had better %FG 2 out of 3

    TP P.E.R playoffs 6,5
    2003: 8% greater, 20.6 less PPG
    2004: 2% greater, 11.6 less PPG
    2008: 17% less, 16.6 less PPG

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    2003: 8% greater, 20.6 less PPG
    2004: 2% greater, 11.6 less PPG
    2008: 17% less, 16.6 less PPG
    On how many FGA? lol TP stop trolling

    TP P.E.R playoffs 6,5

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    6,5 lol

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    Pop's body language says it all...............

    HE TRUSTS MANU MORE..............

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    Can you imagine if Parker got completely outplayed by his counterpart as bad as Kobe used to outplay Ginobili?

    2003 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 32.3/5.0/3.7 on 43%
    Ginobili: 11.7/3.2/2.5 on 51%

    2004 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 26.3/6.3/5.8 on 46%
    Ginobili: 14.7/6.2/3.7 on 48%

    2008 Playoffs:

    Kobe: 29.2/5.6/3.8 on 53%
    Ginobili: 12.6/3.2/3.0 on 36%

    Wow.
    Damn, Manu coming up huge on his rookie season to finally get the Spurs over the Lakers hump. Difference maker since day 1.

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    Damn, Manu coming up huge on his rookie season to finally get the Spurs over the Lakers hump. Difference maker since day 1.
    I will say this...he did score 0.5 more PPG than Bowen in that series, not bad. Also, one of the very few playoff series he shot 50%.

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    I will say this...he did score 0.5 more PPG than Bowen in that series, not bad. Also, one of the very few playoff series he shot 50%.
    Dude, just accept the fact that Manu is the better player and stop being so butthurt.

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    Dude, just accept the fact that Manu is the better player and stop being so butthurt.
    Ok I will accept your statisticless argument.

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    Ok I will accept your statisticless argument.
    Oh, I can throw stats right in your face. And stats that have proven to be more indicative of what happens in the court than raw numbers. But you know all about these, you just prefer to ignore them to keep going with your agenda.

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    Oh, I can throw stats right in your face. And stats that have proven to be more indicative of what happens in the court than raw numbers. But you know all about these, you just prefer to ignore them to keep going with your agenda.
    And you know that the consensus (outside of Parker-hating Spurstalk) is that Tony is a better player with a better resume. He did more on the court against the best players in the league for 15 years and probably has several more. He's a FMVP (Manu's not), 6x All-Star (coach voted) to Manu's 2, 4x All-NBA to Manu's 2, and has records that Manu will never come close to (All-time playoff scoring point guard). His raw stats are superior, his PER 36 stats are superior, he shoots better from the field, turns it over less, and dishes the ball more (even on a per-minute basis). His peak is better (2 top-6 MVP votes and was leading the race up to the end of the season in 2013 before he got injured, and has 2 other top-12 finishes). This is the kind of stuff Manu will never be able to touch. The only thing Manu has is certain advanced stat advantages that are fully due to playing against second units.

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    And you know that the consensus (outside of Parker-hating Spurstalk) is that Tony is a better player with a better resume. He did more on the court against the best players in the league for 15 years and probably has several more. He's a FMVP (Manu's not), 6x All-Star (coach voted) to Manu's 2, 4x All-NBA to Manu's 2, and has records that Manu will never come close to (All-time playoff scoring point guard). His raw stats are superior, his PER 36 stats are superior, he shoots better from the field, turns it over less, and dishes the ball more (even on a per-minute basis). His peak is better (2 top-6 MVP votes and was leading the race up to the end of the season in 2013 before he got injured, and has 2 other top-12 finishes). This is the kind of stuff Manu will never be able to touch. The only thing Manu has is certain advanced stat advantages that are fully due to playing against second units.
    No, it isn't.

    Yeah, Tony has better NBA raw stats and more individual accolades (mainly from playing more than Manu), but the consensus among most NBA folks clearly is that Manu is the better player. As it should be.

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    Manu never got enough minutes played during his prime years.

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    And you know that the consensus (outside of Parker-hating Spurstalk) is that Tony is a better player with a better resume. He did more on the court against the best players in the league for 15 years and probably has several more. He's a FMVP (Manu's not), 6x All-Star (coach voted) to Manu's 2, 4x All-NBA to Manu's 2, and has records that Manu will never come close to (All-time playoff scoring point guard). His raw stats are superior, his PER 36 stats are superior, he shoots better from the field, turns it over less, and dishes the ball more (even on a per-minute basis). His peak is better (2 top-6 MVP votes and was leading the race up to the end of the season in 2013 before he got injured, and has 2 other top-12 finishes). This is the kind of stuff Manu will never be able to touch. The only thing Manu has is certain advanced stat advantages that are fully due to playing against second units.
    Manu has something that is very elusive for foreign players playing against the U.S. in the Olympics----a big fat gold medal

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    And you know that the consensus (outside of Parker-hating Spurstalk) is that Tony is a better player with a better resume. He did more on the court against the best players in the league for 15 years and probably has several more. He's a FMVP (Manu's not), 6x All-Star (coach voted) to Manu's 2, 4x All-NBA to Manu's 2, and has records that Manu will never come close to (All-time playoff scoring point guard). His raw stats are superior, his PER 36 stats are superior, he shoots better from the field, turns it over less, and dishes the ball more (even on a per-minute basis). His peak is better (2 top-6 MVP votes and was leading the race up to the end of the season in 2013 before he got injured, and has 2 other top-12 finishes). This is the kind of stuff Manu will never be able to touch. The only thing Manu has is certain advanced stat advantages that are fully due to playing against second units.
    WeŽll see in some years when Manu will be first ballot HOF and Tony wont.

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    WeŽll see in some years when Manu will be first ballot HOF and Tony wont.
    LOL, please. Tony is higher on every ranking list I've seen: ESPN All-Time 100, SLAM 500, SI, ISH, etc. etc. And he has plenty of years to boost his resume and extend his records.

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    They're both first ballot HOFs
    Tony has better stats and more individual accolades in the NBA, Manu is HOF worthy for this alone:

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    They're both first ballot HOFs
    Tony has better stats and more individual accolades in the NBA, Manu is HOF worthy for this alone:
    Carlos Arroyo beat that Team USA as well doesn't make him a hall of famer

    Carlos Boozer
    Richard Jefferson
    Emeka Okafor
    Stephon Marbury
    Shawn Marion
    Lamar Odom
    young Melo, Lebron, Wade, Amare
    Allen Iverchuck

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    Beating the weakest Team USA ever is his biggest accomplishment

    Jamal Crawford is more individually accomplished at the NBA level than Manure

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    When did Carlos Arroyo lead his team to an Olympic gold exactly?

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