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They're the re ed ones. I dont know how you go from Bernie to Trump. Polar oposites.
1/4 of sanders supports are supporting trump per cbs philly still
They're the re ed ones. I dont know how you go from Bernie to Trump. Polar oposites.
So Russia was behind the DNC hack but not this hack of her private server?
Not really.....both pretty much financed their own campaigns and aren't owned by any particular interest....both are anti-trade treaty...
That is the bottom line..but...people trusted Obama08 more than they trust Hillary16.....and they trust Trump16 more than Hillary16.....so...
She doesn't have to run against Obama08 though. Still though, if Obama could make her cry in 08 what the is Trump going to do to her?
Trump is going to have to be really careful on how he goes at her on a debate, etc, despite her overall unlikeability. She's gonna play the woman's card bait, and there's really a thin line there. He can't afford to pull another Megan Kelly, IMO.She doesn't have to run against Obama08 though. Still though, if Obama could make her cry in 08 what the is Trump going to do to her?
The woman card gave her a slight bounce in 08 vs Magic Negro but that momentum died pretty quickly.
That's coz Barry was running as a progressive too then, he had the black card handy too... this is a completely different ballgame
The black card is going to be really useful for Clinton with Trump running as the fascist candidate. Though Trump probably won't call Obama a nigger in one of his speeches like Santorum in 2012.
All I'm saying is that he can't pull another Megan Kelly and cross into the appearance of sexism, and I'm sure Shillary is going to set the bait.The black card is going to be really useful for Clinton with Trump running as the fascist candidate. Though Trump probably won't call Obama a nigger in one of his speeches like Santorum in 2012.
Don't forget more women than man voted in the last few elections, and Barry carried them roughly 55-45 in both. IMO, it's actually interesting to see how women vote in this election. On one hand, Shillary is betting on the "historic" aspect, but on the other, I wonder if women will be more critical because she's one of them.
You don't know Trump.
The "I financed my own campaign" sctick was proven to be false only a couple of dozen times. And yeah, Trump is so anti trade deals that he and his favorite daughter he also wants to , have their clothes and product made in China?
Totally alike. Yep
pls don't compare Clinton to Megin Kelly. Clinton looks like the zombie mother from Dead Alive
How can it pull the woman card when it barely resembles a female?
Trump will go in 100% in a debate no holds barred and she will be anihilated on stage
And bernies is not opposite to a neocon warmonger who loves wall street?
At least Trump fights for the masses and has a similar foreign policy to Bernie. He's closer to Bernie than the neocon woman
Why Security Experts Think Russia Was Behind the D.N.C. Breach
a growing chorus of experts and officials have seen evidence that the Russian government was responsible.
The investigators determined that the hackers were part of APT 28, a group well-known among cybersecurity experts. The name is short for advanced persistent threat, which usually refers to government hackers.
Security firms and law enforcement officials have also used the name Fancy Bear, a reference to a widespread belief that the group is run by Russia’s military intelligence agency, the G.R.U.
The investigation might have ended there, but CrowdStrike discovered another, better-hidden infiltrator in the computers of the Democratic committee:
A group known as APT 29, or Cozy Bear, which is considered more skillful and has been linked to the F.S.B., the main successor to the K.G.B.
Cozy Bear, it seemed, had had complete access to the committee’s systems for almost a year.
the forensic evidence the experts were able to collect connecting these intrusions to Russian agencies was very strong compared with other cases.
Both APT 28 and APT 29 use methods “consistent with nation-state level capabilities,” according to a CrowdStrike report, and they target foreign militaries and military contractors in a pattern that “closely mirrors the strategic interests of the Russian government.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/27/wo...s&emc=rss&_r=0
Both are banging the same major theme:
Government in a mutualistic relationship with outside influence of $. Which in turn is a parasite of the hard working tax payer and job seekers. So now you bring up trade pacts, keeping jobs in the US, income inequality, etc... The all encompassing rigged system.
If this alone completely occupies a voter, then I can see a switch from Bernie to Trump. There are single theme voters.
And dear board, this is where we must give credit to the self proclaimed "Great Big Boots" of this board. He realizes there are other issues and even within the general agreement between the camps, the prescribed measures to battle the rigged system is not the same. ex. minimum wage, exclusion of a portion of the work force taking low wages and more.
So.
Can I get a great big:
GFY
YOU LIE
amen brothers...
single issue voters are stupid voters. Bernie and Trash are protest candidates, but only a stupid would say they are interchangeable. Bernie's been saying the same stuff for decades, and is sincere, principled, while Trash is a lying, conning demagogue 1%er fraud who doesn't give a about the 99%.
Please explain to me how Trump's primary is any different from Bernie's primary financially except that Trump used much more of his own money. The first time I ever got a solicitation from Trump to donate was June 16 - well after the primaries.
The "I financed my own campaign" sctick was proven to be false only a couple of dozen times. And yeah, Trump is so anti trade deals that he and his favorite daughter he also wants to , have their clothes and product made in China?
Totally alike. Yep
Hard to tell, tbh. There's good reason to be wary of latching onto the first thing "official sources" put on the end of the newspaper spoon.
Remember the Sony hack?
A bit more information for those interested:
Exclusive: Suspected Russian hack of DNC widens
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive...061.html?nhp=1
In mid-June, Democratic Party su ions about the hackers seemed to be confirmed when CrowdStrike, an outside security firm retained by the DNC, reported that it traced the hackers to two separate units linked to Russia’s security services: the FSB, Russia’s equivalent of the FBI, and GRU, the country’s military intelligence agency. The company noted strong similarities between the attack on the DNC by the suspected GRU hackers and previous cyberintrusions of unclassified systems at the White House, the State Department and the offices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. (After discovering the data breach, a DNC security source said its cyberexperts noted that the hackers’ exfiltration of files took place “9 to 5, Moscow time.”) An FBI official confirmed that the bureau has been investigating the breach for some time, and, according to one source familiar with the matter, Director James Comey has been personally briefed.
(edit) not going to stoop to your level.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 07-27-2016 at 08:46 AM. Reason: nah.
Lol so the Russians are stupid enough to use their FBI equivalent networks to hack the US?
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