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    Ben Swann didn't claim anything dip .

    Here is what going on record and not backing your claim looks like.

    Nice little graphic. Do you jerk off to it every night?

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    that isn't any evidence of existence to debunk. Try harder to mock children that are being raped, real classy.
    I'm not. I'm mocking the validity of the "story" at this point in time.

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    I'm not. I'm mocking the validity of the "story" at this point in time.
    What are your thoughts on the Reddit AMA now that it appears it was Carole Greenwood's son?

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    What are your thoughts on the Reddit AMA now that it appears it was Carole Greenwood's son?
    i dont keep up with reddit tbh. has the evidence of employment exceeded an undated anonymous facebook friend request message?

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    i dont keep up with reddit tbh. has the evidence of employment exceeded an undated anonymous facebook friend request message?
    I made it easy for you to keep up with Reddit and provided links with pictures of Carole Greenwood's son Dylan, who it appears did the Reddit AMA. No employment evidence as Reddit shut the thread down. He posted some emails back and forth from him and Alefantis years ago but those were scrubbed as well. Trying to find if anyone archived them.

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    Why is he going to reddit instead of the police or journalists that could break a story?

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    If you kept up with Reddit more you could have asked him yourself yesterday

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    If you kept up with Reddit more you could have asked him yourself yesterday
    The only thing reddit is good for is NBA streams and your occasional porn torrent.

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    Why is he going to reddit instead of the police or journalists that could break a story?
    Many are too afraid to speak up. This lady didn't say anything for 50 years.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/264311...ed-paedo-gang/

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    Many are too afraid to speak up. This lady didn't say anything for 50 years.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/264311...ed-paedo-gang/
    That's ed up. I'm not sure what to think of PizzaGate tbh. But to say that these rings aren't out there and run by powerful people is incredibly naive.

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    Why is he going to reddit instead of the police or journalists that could break a story?
    Because they're all in on it too!!

    The only people who can be trusted in this world are anonymous people on the internet.

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    Many are too afraid to speak up. This lady didn't say anything for 50 years.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/264311...ed-paedo-gang/
    he's afraid to speak up but then goes on reddit in front of potentially millions of viewers and publishes a picture of himself

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    Because they're all in on it too!!

    The only people who can be trusted in this world are anonymous people on the internet.
    This take is almost as bad as you thinking people will be using suppressors to shoot others without getting noticed. Police have been involved in covering up pedo rings for decades.

    http://www.copblock.org/140914/more-...ing-cover-ups/


    Government watchdogs in London, launched in March, an investigation into claims that Scotland Yard covered up child sex abuse crimes because of the involvement of MPs, police officers, and officials.


    After announcing twelve more investigations into the Metropolitan Police Department on Wednesday, the Independent Police Complaints Commission is currently examining 30 allegations of corruption by MPs and Met police relating to child sex offenses from the 1970’s to the 2000’s, in which it is claimed that officers suppressed evidence, hindered or halted investigations, and covered up offenses to protect their colleagues.

    Additionally, Scotland Yard has revealed that 18 other allegations have also been referred to the IPCC that are still awaiting approval to proceed with investigations.

    They are being conducted by the internal professional standards departments at the Met and Essex police departments – and are being overseen by the IPCC.


    Among the previous allegations include a claim that government do ents found at a child sex offender’s address tied a number of “highly prominent individuals” including senior police officers to a pedophile ring before no further action was taken and the investigation was dropped.


    Another allegation claimed officers omitted a senior politician’s name from an abuse victim’s police report. Other claims implicated a police coverup of child sex abuse allegations involving a former senior Met police officer and “further members of the establishment including judges.”


    The IPCC has also said, that an investigation into young men being targeted in Dolphin Square, an apartment complex popular with MPs, was also allegedly abandoned because officers were “too near [to] prominent people.”

    Other allegations claim surveillance operations of a child sex abuse ring were shut down because “high profile people” were involved, and that intelligence gathering on a politician suspected of being involved in pedophile activities in the 1970s was ended by a senior MPS officer.


    In still other claims, it was even alleged that police officers sexually abused a boy and carried out gang-stalking-type surveillance on him, and that an investigation into a pedophile ring that resulted in multiple convictions, did not take action against “more prominent individuals.”


    The new cases announced on Wednesday result from eye-witness testimony by retired officers and include allegations that a prosecution against an official over child-pornography was dropped after the advisement of senior officers, that top officers shut down an investigation into a south-west London pedophile ring in the 1970’s, and that an MP was arrested and then released without charges during a south London pedophile ring investigation in the 1980’s.


    Also alleged is that evidence relating to child abuse at a youth club involving politicians and council officers in the 1980s and 90s went missing from a London police station, that an MP was charged with lesser child sex offenses than were pursuant to his crimes, and that an investigation in to child sex abuse in central London in the 80’s was halted after it was revealed that an MP had been implicated.
    There are also claims that a special branch of the department made attempts in the 1970’s to interfere in an investigation in to an MP’s involvement in child sex offenses, and that officers were also allegedly threatened with breaking the Official Secrets Act if they exposed the truth.


    “The [Metropolitan Police Department] recognize[s] the severity of the allegations, and the importance of understanding whether or not our officers had in the past acted inappropriately,” a Met Police spokesperson originally said in March after investigations were first announced.


    The spokesperson added, “ongoing investigations and recent convictions by officers from the Sexual Offenses, Exploitation and Child Abuse Command have shown that the MPS is fully committed to investigating non-recent allegations of [child] sexual abuse.”




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    For nearly two decades, the man known as “Big Cyril” waddled about the United Kingdom’s parliament, all bombast and waggling fingers. Rumored to be the heaviest member of parliament in British history — weighing over 400 pounds — he would spread his considerable girth across the bench of the House of Commons, grinning in good times, glowering in bad.
    Most everyone remembers Cyril Smith. The member of Parliament had a personal touch. He sang. He went on pal Jimmy Savile’s BBC show.


    He also, according to hundreds of allegations since his 2010 death, was a pedophile of historic proportions.
    That fact was one of many in a dossier prepared 30 years ago by a crusading member of Parliament who warned of a powerful pedophile ring of “big, big names.” At the time, the man told his family the allegations were “explosive,” according to the BBC. It would, he told his son, “blow the lid off” of the pedophile ring and perhaps take down powerful, famous sex abusers who had infiltrated the highest reaches of British life.


    Despite the purported power of the allegations, they weren’t aggressively pursued and no arrests or prosecutions followed. “My father [Geoffrey ens] thought that the dossier at the time was the most powerful thing that had ever been produced, with the names that were involved and the power that they had,” son Barry told the BBC late last week after it emerged that the do ent has since gone missing. “It just seems so su ious that something so important could just go missing.”

    Over the weekend, as its disappearance ballooned into a national scandal, the Guardian reported it may be worse than that. An additional 114 do ents relevant to allegations involving the ring are also missing — a revelation sparking su ion that Margaret Thatcher’s government orchestrated a cover-up of child abuse by politicians.


    Norman Tebbit, a former cabinet minister who served under Thatcher, told the BBC on Sunday the inclination at the time may have been to protect “the system” rather than delving “too far” into the claims. Asked if there had been a “big political cover-up,” Tebbit conceded “there may well have been. But it was almost unconscious. It was the thing that people did at that time. You didn’t talk about those sorts of things. It is not the sort of thing that people did.”

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    he's afraid to speak up but then goes on reddit in front of potentially millions of viewers and publishes a picture of himself
    Like I said from the start if he's just some LARPer he'll have the sued out of him.

    Do you believe it's Carole Greenwood's son?

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    Because they're all in on it too!!

    The only people who can be trusted in this world are anonymous people on the internet.
    THE DUTROUX AFFAIR

    I will begin in Belgium, with a case known as the Dutroux affair. This case is important because it illustrates how investigations can be undermined by a cabal able to place its members in crucial positions of power, and how powerful people can be implicated in abusing children. The Dutroux affair was covered extensively by the mainstream media, and was huge news in Belgium, where 350,000 people took to the streets to protest the handling of the case, known as the famous White March, from a nation of just 10 million.
    The case begins in 1995, when multiple young girls began disappearing around the area of Bertrix. Young girls had been disappearing in this area for a couple of years but the BOB (equivalent of the FBI) was unable to develop any solid leads. A breakthrough was made when a su ious white van was reported, and the police were able to trace it to Marc Dutroux, a known pedophile. Dutroux had been released from prison just a few years earlier, after serving a third of his sentence, despite reservations among those involved in the hearing and his own mother, who had warned the parole board that he would certainly cause harm again.
    It was also revealed that Dutroux, though unemployed and receiving welfare from the state, owned seven homes and lived quite lavishly, from his involvement in selling children and child porn. It turns out that his mother was right, and Dutroux was responsible for the recent abductions. Girls as young as 8 reportedly starved to death in a makeshift dungeon in his basement, after months of sexual abuse.
    The knowledge of these horrible transgressions committed by Dutroux are widely available and thoroughly do ented, and though disturbing, are not important enough to focus on this case. Now, I will attempt to highlight the incompetence of the investigating police, and the subsequent cover-up of evidence by the state. Police had investigated Dutroux multiple times without any arrests. Once, they entered his home and witnessed the outside of a makeshift dungeon in his basement, while two girls were being held and starved inside. They even reported hearing voices, though they said they believed Dutroux’s story that the voices were coming from the street outside.
    Police ignored a tip from an informant, who said that Dutroux offered him between 3,000 and 5,000 dollars to kidnap young girls. Again and again, police failed to act on information, or acted with complete incompetence. Incredibly, Police had in their possession a video tape of Dutroux constructing the makeshift dungeon in one of his basements, and would have saved the lives of two girls who were being tortured while the police held on to the evidence, had they viewed the video tape and acted on it.
    By September 1996, the official body count had reached 8, and public outrage over police incompetence mounted. Why had a known pedophile been released so early from his original prison term, and allowed to terrify a country while the police stumbled about, seemingly complicit in the carnage?
    When the case transferred from the police to the courts, the coverup became much more egregious. The lead prosecutor, Jean-Marc Conorrette, was dismissed from the case, which drew huge criticism from across the nation. Conorette became a hero because it was his initiative that led to the police actually finding two girls in Dutroux’s captivity. He also was instrumental in finding the bodies of four more girls. Conorette would later break down in tears in court while describing the death threats he received when he was still involved with the investigation.
    Fuel to the fire would be added when a highly regarded children’s activist, Marie France Botte, claimed that prosecutors were sitting on a politically sensitive list of high-profile customers of Dutrouxs thousands of video tapes.
    Marc Verwilghen, the Flemish parliamentarian who became the most popular politician in the country after leading the inquiry into Dutroux, claimed that many in the Belgian establishment, including heads of government, refused to cooperate, and sought to stifle and ridicule his report. He claimed that magistrates and police were officially told to not answer certain questions, in what he described as a ‘characteristic smothering operation.’ He was further quoted as saying ‘For me, the Dutroux affair is a question of organized crime.’ A parliamentary panel revealed the names of 30 government officials it said were complicit in the hiding of Dutrouxs misdeeds, none have been punished.
    The most important information on the case comes from a victim of Dutroux. Regina Louf was the first to come forward, and was candid about the abuse she received at the hands of Belgium’s child abuse networks. In 1996, she named and described in great detail, to a specially assembled police team, the people and places involved in the paedophile ring. Senior judges, one of the country’s most powerful politicians – now dead – and a very influential banker were included. The BBC article says,
    “The sessions not only involved sex, they included sadism, torture and murder; and again, she described in detail, the place, the victims and how they were killed.”
    She corroborated that one of Dutrouxs associates, Jean-Michel Nihoul, was instrumental in the abuse parties.
    “At these parties Nihoul was a sort of party beast while Dutroux was more on the side.”
    Nihoul had significant connections among Belgian political and financial elite. He confessed to organizing an orgy at a Belgian chateau attended by government officials. It emerged that Dutroux and Nihoul were part of a long distance child trafficking ring that imported children from Slovakia.
    Let’s get back to the questioning of the witnesses. The primary witnesses to step forward all suffered from Dissociative Iden y Disorder(DID). In 98% of DID cases, the person suffered extreme sexual abuse as a child. The abuse that the Dutroux witnesses attested to is beyond comprehension. Louf, and other witnesses, recounted being raped by dogs and snakes, and being forced to witness the murders of other children which were captured on video tape. That Louf spoke the truth about witnessing these murders is laid out here in an excellent manner.
    She gave a tremendous amount of detail to her prosecutors that she simply could not have known without being there herself, and there is simply way too much evidence to lay it out here. I recommend reading the whole page, which is as long as a short book, as the research is simply phenomenal. She also reported being involved with Satanic rituals, which I will address in greater detail later in the post.
    Despite evidence that linked Dutroux and Nihoul to abuse parties and murder snuff films, the prosecutor that replaced Conorette, Jacques Langlois, completely dismantled the investigation. He sent police out on false tips and helped spread disinformation in the media. Although nearly 100 high-profile people in government, religion, entertainment and finance being accused of involvement in child abuse, no one of significance other than Dutroux was ever jailed. Nine police officers would eventually be arrested in connection with the murders which also contained dozens of su ious deaths among those who were helping the case. I have only presented a small picture of what amounts to a mountain of do entation on Dutroux. For further reading, look here and here.
    I understand that my discussion on the Dutroux affair does not validate any of the claims in the le of this post. It is only one small piece of the puzzle. It shows how, from the bottom level of police work to the top-level of prosecution politics, people complicit with pedophiles can be placed into key positions to ensure that investigations never bear fruit. Now I will briefly highlight pedophile rings that operated parallel to Dutrouxs during the same time period, again in which no high level officials were brought to justice, although they undeniable participated, to illustrate how widespread the child porn and child abuse epidemic is. I will then move on to more important cases.



    THE LINCOLN, NEBRASKA SCANDAL

    From here on out the post gets more surreal. These child abuse and pedophile rings are not by any means limited to Europe. Rather, the United States has perhaps the biggest child trafficking epidemic in the world. It is important to note, before I begin the next segment of this post, that the FBI does not track statistics for missing children. Of all the statistics it keeps tabs on, rape, homicide, domestic abuse, what amounts to perhaps the single most important one in terms of citizen safety is ominously missing. Perhaps they simply do not want us to know how bad the epidemic is? It should also be noted that FBI prosecution of major child trafficking rings has been virtually non-existent.
    Take a good look at this front page story, published on June 29, 1989. The first chapter reads:
    “A sexual pros ution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides, and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close social ties to Washingtons political elite, do ents obtained by The Washington Times revealed.”
    The story never fully hit the streets, as agents grabbed the copies from newstands in the early hours of the morning. Another good article for background before I move on to American organized pedophilia and satanism is this. The first paragraph reads:
    “All nine children tell the same story, a grisly tale of being taken out of school and abused in a blue house. They name the same culprit, a school administrator who, they say, performs satanic rituals as part of his twisted routine. In the 14 months since the first child came forward, police said they have conducted 150 interviews and cannot substantiate the claims of the children, who range in age from 5 to 9. Prosecutor Stanley Levco is more blunt: He doesn’t believe them, and he plans to publicly clear the accused.”


    I will now talk about America’s own Dutroux affair, which began in Lincoln, Nebraska, in the late 1980s. A good part of the story, minus the Satanism aspect, is covered in a do entary called The Conspiracy of Silence. The do entary was set to air on the Discovery Channel in 1994 but at the last minute, it was pulled and destroyed. We only have access to it now because of a “cutting room copy” leaked a year later. The story begins with Omaha businessman Lawrence King, who was a rising star in the Republican Party at the time. In 1988, it was revealed that he had diverted millions of dollars from the Franklin Community Federal Credit Union, the investigation of which spawned an investigation into a pedophilia ring of mind-blowing proportions. Soon enough, investigators into the embezzlement scandal began receiving reports of sexual abuse.
    Omaha newspapers were running stories of how young boys from Boystown were being pros uted among local business leaders and sometimes traveled to Washington. Parties would include sex, and abuse such as “beatings with extension cords while naked.” Immediately, the FBI began claiming that there was no substance to the sexual abuse allegations. The stories of the victims told a drastically different story. “The older sister alleged that King arranged for her to fly to parties in Washington, D.C., and other cities where men engaged her in sexual activity.” Apparently, the abused were all foster children, and they would miss weeks of school each year taking these trips.
    The head of the investigative committee, known as the Franklin Comittee, Gary Carodori, was also convinced of the rampant child abuse and was determined to bring perpetrators to justice. As a side note, you can view Caradori’s interviews with the victims here. Early on in the investigation, Gary Caradori would meet an untimely death, during a flight on his way to Chicago to review new evidence. There was a scattered wreckage pattern, indicating that the plane broke apart in the air, and not upon impact. The new head investigator would repeatedly lead the committee in the wrong direction, away from child abuse and satanic ritual claims. A state senator resigned from the investigative committee and said, “”I really don’t think the things Larry King knew will ever be made public.” He also cited concerns about the change in leadership.
    A New York Times article confirms that state investigators were given thousands of files regarding sexual abuse from children and testimonies from people involved in the foster care and education system. What happened next is amazing. Instead of indicting the accused perpetrators to develop cases against them, Grand Juries twice ordered the thousands of files to be sealed, and then brought charges of perjury against some of the victims. The mainstream media did their part to defend the grand jury and to marginalize the testimonies of the victims. One of the victims was sentenced to 9-15 years in prison, and spent two years in solitary confinement. 8 years later the woman in question, Alisha Owen, was denied a hearing to commute her sentence. Lawrence King, however, would leave prison after just 10 years, being found guilty only of financial crimes.
    As with the Dutroux affair, I have again only shown a small portion of a truly mind-blowing and exceptionally well do ented story. Many victims in their interviews cited being forced to participate in satanic rituals, and had named King as a participant. What I hope I have laid out here is that there are certainly child pros ution rings in the United States and that kids are transported across the country for high-profile customers. When people get in the way of these activities, they are silenced or killed. To learn more about the Franklin Coverup (and there is a lot more to learn!!), read this book by John DeCamp, watch this do entary, and view this website which has a great collection of information.

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    PRESIDIO MILITARY BASE ABUSE

    Unfortunately, the next step in this expose takes us to truly bizarre and disturbing places. A particularly disturbing child abuse case involving a military day care center came to light in 1987. Allegations of abuse involving 60 children, some infants, surfaced at the Presidio military base in San Francisco. I would like to point out that this article claims that child abuse allegations had surfaced at more than 30 military day care centers across the country in the previous 3 years before its publishing, including some of the most esteemed bases such as West Point and Fort Dix. It would be impossible to lay out the case for each one here, but I would like to share this quote from the San Jose Mercury News:
    “Children at West Point told stories that would become horrifyingly familiar. They said they had been ritually abused. They said they had had excrement smeared on their bodies and been forced to eat feces and drink urine. They said they were taken away from the day care center and photographed.”
    At the Presidio, at least 4 children were found to have chlamydia, and up to 60 had shown clear signs of abuse. The most important exposes into the Presidio case were written by Linda Goldston of the San Jose Mercury News. In an article en led, “Abuse Case at Presidio Quietly Closed By U.S.,” the events are told in chilling detail. The first victims to come forward were aged 3 and 4. Interestingly, the Presidio child care center was not closed until over a year after these allegations came to light. Initially charges were only brought against one man, Gary Hambright, a civilian employee.
    Later, however, it was revealed that police were investigating a man named Michael Aquino, a Lt. Col. Aquino was the founder of a satanic church known as The Temple of Set. Army do ents showed that children were often taken on unnanounced trips outside the center, and many children could accurately describe Aquinos house. The search of Aquinos house got investigators thousands of videos and photographs, and what appeared to be a soundproof room, but charges were never brought against him.
    The American Journal of Orthopsychiatry wrote an extensive analysis of the victims of the Presidio. They stated:
    “The severity of the trauma for children at the Presidio was immediately manifest in clear cut symptoms. Before the abuse was exposed, parents had already noticed the following changes in their children: vaginal discharge, genital soreness, rashes, fear of the dark, sleep disturbances, nightmares, sexually provocative language, and sexually inappropriate behavior. In addition, the children were exhibiting other radical changes in behavior, including temper outbursts, sudden mood shifts, and poor impulse control. All these behavioral symptoms are to be expected in preschool children who have been molested.”
    The San Jose Mercury News expanded on the story a few months later with an article en led “Army of the Night.” This article dives into the satanic aspect of the child abuse at the Presidio. Satanism had apparently surfaced at the Presidio years earlier. Military Police had investigated some buildings after reports of a man dressed in all black holding a little girls hand had been reported. An MP was recorded as saying:
    “We kicked the door open and here’s this nice little bedroom. In a corner was a mannequin with a gun aimed at the door. On the left side there was a bunk against the wall. There was a pentagram on the floor, a huge one. There were dolls’ heads all over the ceiling, just off-the-wall stuff… We were sitting there, we’ve got a cult on the Presidio of San Francisco and nobody cares about it.
    “We were told by the provost marshal to just forget about it.”
    As a side note, in February 1987, Aquino appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show and gave a passionate defense of his Satanic beliefs. On the Autumnal equinox of 1987, an occult day of importance, fire would strike a building adjacent to the day care center, destroying many records relating to the center. A month later, fire would destroy the day care center itself. The ATF found that the causes of both fires had been arson, contrary to the Army which claimed faulty wiring. Prosecutors would once again bring charges against Gary Hambright, but su iously they did not include the allegations of children with serious do ented abuse such as missing hymens and rectal lesions. Apparently the children were chosen on the basis of who would make the best witnesses. The strategy did not pan out, the judge ruled the charges as “too vague” and Hambright walked free, and no charges were again brought against the Presidio military base day care center.


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    This take is almost as bad as you thinking people will be using suppressors to shoot others without getting noticed. Police have been involved in covering up pedo rings for decades.”
    Sorry, there is literally no take in the history of this forum as bad as the claim that there is a massive, Clinton-supported pedophile ring which has produced exactly zero credible victims and that people closely involved in that running are leaving "clues" on the Internet.

    I am perfectly comfortable bringing my limited understanding of firearm accessories into a discussion on a forum where this thread is the low bar.

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    Sorry, there is literally no take in the history of this forum as bad as the claim that there is a massive, Clinton-supported pedophile ring which has produced exactly zero credible victims and that people closely involved in that running are leaving "clues" on the Internet.
    Provide a link to anyone on this forum making that claim.

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    Provide a link to anyone on this forum making that claim.
    lol click that "First " link at the bottom right of your 38 page thread

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    Provide a link to anyone on this forum making that claim.
    Thread: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264301

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    I'm going with not a chance this is true

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    I was correct dip . None of what I quoted came to fruition.

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    I told you all a real investigation would start once Obama was out of the way.





    David Seaman‏@d_seaman 9h9 hours ago





    I spoke to someone from Homeland Security last night. Pizzagate is not debunked, and is being actively investigated. Cheers!

    https://twitter.com/d_seaman/status/822453148983947264

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    This guy things Biden and Obama are in on it

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