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    No doubt about it, Obama was Mr. Continuity for the powers that be at the time and continues to. Obama is was and always has been a Tory.

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    Handing over executive powers of greater amplitude than his predecessor, to Trump.

    Obama did not only preserve power intact, he hands it over enhanced.

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    I want him to pick R. Reich for Secretary of Public Enlightenment. The last name is oh so fitting.

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    you can't use the office to enrich yourself directly, right?

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    I've heard it's legally a gray area as to whether conflict of interest laws can be enforced wrt the President and Vice-President. Previous occupants of the office adhered to more or less legally strict, political norms.

    Now, it's apparently ok to enrich yourself directly.

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    I didn't say he was. I can say "a" if it would help you get to where you could give a straight answer.

    2nd time:
    I merely asked if you thought that it was ok of a sitting president should be working personal deals to develop real estate in India?
    I'll give you an answer you should understand.


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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...5d0_story.html
    “There are so many diplomatic, political, even national security risks in having the president own a whole bunch of properties all over the world,” said Richard Painter, chief White House ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush.

    “If we’ve got to talk to a foreign government about their behavior, or negotiate a treaty, or some country asks us to send our troops in to defend someone else, we’ve got to make a decision. And the question becomes: Are we going in out of our national interest or because there’s a Trump casino around?” Painter added.
    The above article outlines the scale.

    Also tangential to the thread, but not quite on topic, what happens when the first terrorist attack kills people on one of his properties?

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    I'll give you an answer you should understand.
    So, using the office to enrich himself, directly violating the cons ution is a "meh" for you?

    Just wanted to see if that was right. It is OK for the president to violate the cons ution.

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    US has fined Deutsche Bank $14B

    Trash is indebted to DB

    Will Trash's DoJ modify the DB fine?

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    Don't care too much about the source, I just wanted some context/explanation.

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    seems the win caught Trump by surprise. Even if it didn't, he seems unprepared -- didn't think things through all the way.
    Understatement of the Decade

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    if Trump can brazen out using high office to openly enrich himself and his family members, we will have made a significant step toward caudillismo.

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    Integrity and principles still matter regardless of who won.

    I'm cool with all the touchdown dances, but some point the conversation starts again -- there's way more to politics than ing the football after election day.
    +1

    We are, as I have already stated, forced to deal with the realities.

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    Until I see something like this linked to Trump, you've no room

    Okaaay.

    Without really getting a firm explanation, I can take a guess, that it was some metric for ethnic diversity.

    Which is the source of my puzzlement, because the point you were responding to was that Trump is considering his share of Wall Street types for all sorts of things, after railing against them in the campaign. Not sure how that is relevant to either that or the conflict of interest that comprises the thread topic.

    In that he is doing exactly what Obama did.

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    Trump registered 8 companies in Saudi Arabia during presidential campaign

    The Washington Post has found that Trump registered eight new companies during this year’s presidential campaign that “appear tied to a potential hotel project in Saudi Arabia.”

    Elsewhere, the Post has found that Trump has started companies that “range from sprawling, ultraluxury real estate complexes to one-man holding companies and branding deals in Azerbaijan, Indonesia, Panama and other countries, including some where the United States maintains sensitive diplomatic ties.”
    https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/dra...tial-campaign/

    WP original source article here:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...5d0_story.html

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    Don't care too much about the source, I just wanted some context/explanation.
    Translation: I'm going to ignore that this is from citi bank.

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    standard rightwingnutjob defense (eg, of Don The Con): Our person no worse than, just as bad as somebody else.

    ... which is not even a tiny attempt to say Don The Con is "good".

    In Trash case's, such defense is a total LIE.

    Don the Con is ABNORMALLY conflicted, corrupt, with a long, public, legal history as a disastrous business manager, stiffing suppliers, screwing investors, self-dealing, etc, etc, etc.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-22-2016 at 02:04 PM.

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    So, using the office to enrich himself, directly violating the cons ution is a "meh" for you?

    Just wanted to see if that was right. It is OK for the president to violate the cons ution.
    Meh

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    Benghazi! meh

    emails! meh

    whitewater! meh

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    Translation: I'm going to ignore that this is from citi bank.
    Again, context? Applicability?

    I'm not ignoring anything, you are just making your point really badly. I really have no idea what the you are talking about yet.

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    Ok then. Party over country, got it. Message received.

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    Ok then. Party over country, got it. Message received.
    You spent 8 years saying "meh", now your a deeply concerned citizen

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    Again, context? Applicability?

    I'm not ignoring anything, you are just making your point really badly. I really have no idea what the you are talking about yet.
    > I point out citi bank picked a handful of Obama's cabinet
    > You think that's false
    > I provide a link speaking of this topic
    > You play dumb

    Not sure what else to tell you.

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    > I point out citi bank picked a handful of Obama's cabinet
    > You think that's false
    > I provide a link speaking of this topic
    > You play dumb

    Not sure what else to tell you.
    You posted a picture with no explanation as to its relevance, and then expect people to read your mind?



    Lazy much?

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    President-elect Donald Trump declared that a sitting U.S. president “can’t have a conflict of interest,” responding to a surge of questions about whether his global business interests will collide with his official duties when he takes office in January.
    Asked about potential business conflicts during an interview with the New York Times, Trump said federal law is “totally on my side.” Federal law exempts presidents and vice presidents from rules that ban officials from using their positions to further their personal interests -- an exception crafted out of the belief that presidents shouldn’t have to worry about triggering ethics probes when making hard decisions.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/ar...t-as-president

    Looks like he thinks he has the green light to profit however he wants, cons ution aside.

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