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    Manchin chairs the Energy Committee.

    Will brief colleagues on "climate facts", warns agains nuking the filibuster.


    • "I'm not going to do it through reconciliation," which requires only a simple majority, like the COVID stimulus, Manchin said. "I am not going to get on a bill that cuts them out completely before we start trying."
    • Asked if he believes it's possible to get 10 Republicans on the infrastructure package, which could yield the 60 votes needed under normal Senate rules, Manchin said: "I sure do."

    Manchin said the infrastructure bill can be big — as much as $4 trillion — as long as it's paid for with tax increases. He said he'll start his bargaining by requiring the package be 100% paid for.

    • Manchin said that with all the debt we're piling up, he's worried about "a tremendous deep recession that could lead into a depression if we're not careful. ... We're just setting ourselves up."
    • He talked up an array of tax increases, including raising the corporate tax rate from the current 21% to 25% "at least," and repealing "a lot of" the Trump tax cuts for the wealthy.
    https://www.axios.com/joe-manchin-in...d537c0bd9.html

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    Manchin continues to operate under the delusionally utopian assumption that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.

    Good luck to him.

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    Manchin continues to operate under the delusionally utopian assumption that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.

    Good luck to him.
    Gotta think this is a front. Can he really be that dumb?

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    On Thursday, a bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation aiming to help the U.S. government develop more technology partnerships with allies to counter China’s rise in artificial intelligence, 5G, quantum computing and other areas.


    The bill, led by Virginia Democratic Senator Mark Warner, a former technology entrepreneur, would create a new interagency office within the State Department focusing on coordinating tech strategies with other democratic nations. It would also create a $5 billion fund supporting research projects between government and private companies.

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    Biden's EO on supply chains: not shy.

    Some of the mandates go out one year, this EO could become a recurring theme.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-...supply-chains/

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    Gotta think this is a front. Can he really be that dumb?
    Dumb like a fox, maybe. Being the Democrat in bent in a GOP state requires one to pretend he tried to work with Republicans.

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    subtext: economic independence/dominance, particularly wrt the PRC.

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    Trumps bill was better assholes did not pass it

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    Trumps bill was better assholes did not pass it

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    Manchin continues to operate under the delusionally utopian assumption that Republicans will negotiate in good faith.

    Good luck to him.
    He can probably take Susan and Murkowski along. You only need 1 after all.

    Republicans will probably listen to Manchin more since they consider him a republican lite too.

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    Trumps bill was better assholes did not pass it
    link to his bill?

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    He'll post it in 2 weeks.

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    DuckDuckGo.com
    Use it fool

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    You read those articles that fast
    Bull ing

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    “Despite all of Trump’s bluster about an infrastructure bill, this appears to be one piece of legislation he has no intention of signing — not that he will ever be forced to make the choice.

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said Wednesday morning that the Senate wouldn’t be taking up the measure.”

    No he did not. Learn to read fool.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/house...b612083c5614bf

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    You read those articles that fast
    Bull ing
    They weren't long articles tbh.

    There was no Trump bill in any of them.

    There was the bill the Democrats passed last summer -- that's it.

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    You aren't getting 4 trillion out of tax increases without hitting the middle class too.

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    Hey Joe M

    Dems aren't "cutting out Repugs", the Repugs cut themselves out, OBSTRUCT in pure, smash-mouth, kick-head bad faith, everything Dem, for years.

    Can this mofo Manchin be that dumb? or is somebody bribing him to be that "dumb"?
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    Look at what 1.9 trillion did to the bond market last couple of weeks. Add another 4 trillion and suddenly interest rates become relevant in the national debt discussion.

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    is it finally infrastructure week?

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    Look at what 1.9 trillion did to the bond market last couple of weeks. Add another 4 trillion and suddenly interest rates become relevant in the national debt discussion.
    You been prognosticating a spending led blowup for 13 years straight. Well, not straight, Only whEN THERE'S A dEMOCRAT IN THE wHITE hOUSE.

    Maybe someday you'll be right!

    Not gonna lie, this isn't easy to understand. Adam Tooze wrote this thing about the bond market. Maybe some financial pros on the board can do an explainer on it, it's beyond my competence, tbh. Lotta noise about the SLR exemption.












    https://adamtooze.substack.com/p/cha...-newsletter-16

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    I have always said deficits are going to matter at some point no matter who was president. I can support low taxes AND responsible deficits.

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    I have always said deficits are going to matter at some point no matter who was president. I can support low taxes AND responsible deficits.
    You were totally silent on deficits the last four years, have you been sleeping the whole time?

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