I disagree. But I understand. Fair enough.
My criticisms of Parker, Aldridge and Gasol have been based on one thing and that is that I want the Spurs to win now. And I think, basing on their offseason moves, the FO and Pop has the same plan. IMO, Murray is not ready to help the spurs on their win-now mentality and he’s not going to make the spurs better by taking a substantial minutes off of parker.
I disagree. But I understand. Fair enough.
No, I'm prepared to talk about his stellar career in the D League. He had 7 turnovers tonight against Sioux Falls. How many will he have against NBA compe ion? Is 7 turnovers good? Or a per of -18 in the D League? How about shooting 5-16? Is shooting 43% against D League compe ion good? The reality is that it would be easy to go through each game and point out his flaws, but some you'll still act like he's NBA ready. It's obvious Pop sees he's not ready, hence Lapro is on the team and Murray isn't. I'm sure I could find a bunch of similar stats, but why am I going to waste time looking at meaningless D League stats. Jimmer put up better D League stats and he's in China. Either you're related to Murray or you are a dumbass.
I'd say almost averaging a triple double isn't sucking as either. And I'm not saying he needs to be a30 minute a night guy. But 10-15 would be fine. It's unfortunate you can't see what I'm saying because you went on the parker defense right away.
But please keep moving the basket around. Because you don't know sit.
Funny you want tokeep comparing him to jimmer. Jimmer doesn't have an elite physical quality to be an nba player. Murray has athleticism and length. Should we compare Tony to Westbrook right now? Tony sucks he can't average a triple double like Westbrook. See how stupid you sound and look.
Lapro has earned those minutes. Murray has to earn those from Lapro and he hasn't. Hence, he's in the D League.
You are the one touting a guy with 7 TO in a D League game as deserving minutes over Parker. He hasn't even earned them over Lapro. Jimmer has a much better jumper than Murray and while Murray may jump higher and be longer, that doesn't make him an NBA player. You could say that Murray is taller and more athletic than Steve Nash, but what does it matter in a league full of athletes? You need skill and smarts, two things that Murray has on a D League level.
and you're the one touting a washed guy. But hey sentimental, let's keep playing him because you are afraid to move on. Little .
in Tony second year in the league he had 2 games of 7 turnovers. And had quite a few 6 and 5 turnover games. I guess his career doesn't count anymore. You dumb .
Wrong. I say keep playing Parker bc at this point he gives us our best chance to continue winning. I'm not sentimental about Parker. I'm more than willing to admit he's in decline. But even in decline, he's worlds better than Murray. Say what you want, but people smarter and more informed than both of us have Murray in the D League and Parker in the NBA (and Lapro in the NBA). Parker and Murray are so far apart, you really have no coherent argument for even taking 10 min from Parker's playing time to give to Murray. You should be arguing that Murray should replace Lapro on the roster. That's who Murray should beat out, but he hasn't.
NBA vs D League. Bet Parker wouldn't have 7 turnovers in a D League game.
There is no easy to know as there wasn't a D league ball then. But toy was turnover prone early on. You can't deny that. But I'm sure you will
Oh and beating the Warriors by 29 in their building with Parker running point.
Patty was "cash" in the 2014 Finals:
Parker: 18/5
Mills: 10/2
Lol.
Tony's most turnovers ever: 3 per game
Westbrook this season: 6 per game
When I think of turnover-prone, I don't think of Parker. He's been one of the best ball-handlers of his generation.
We're not the ones having to prove our point when one of the best coaches of all time and the best front office of all time agrees with us by their actions.
Parker was extremely turnover prone his first 2 years. Please try to deny this. Please o please.
In his 5th year the amazing Tony average 3.1 turnovers a game. That's a great ball handler?
he is averaging 2 a game this year in limited minutes.
He is a 5.9 assist to 2.4 turnover for his career. Amazing.
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Yeah because they've never made bad decisions? Ever! How about our turd towers. David west? The Bonner love affair. And you know there is more. But please be a blind sheep. Don't think for yourself.
What a stupid statement.
Last edited by palangi; 12-17-2016 at 12:46 PM.
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You keep comparing Parker, an NBA player, to Murray, a D League player. There's no comparison. An 18 year old Tony Parker was good enough to make an NBA roster and a 20 year old Murray isn't. And turning the ball over (7 times) in the D League is much worse than turning it over three times against NBA level defense.
Will we don't know what Murray is like in the nba. He hasn't really played. And that's because we have to be sensative to parkers ego. But please keep making up scenarios.
And since it is really hard for your dumb ass to read. He said Tony isn't turnover prone. He is a great ball handler.
Please try to keep up simpleton.
You keep bringing up Parker. The one that keeps Murray in the D League is Lapro, the undrafted Argentine rookie. I mean, we can do this dance all day. Murray is no where near as good as Parker, so a win-now team would never bench Parker for Murray. Lapro is the ten minute a night guy and Murray has to beat him out, but sadly, he hasn't been good enough to beat out an undrafted rookie. Murray needs to develop for the next two years in the D League.
Do you even know who these guys are, or what they have in common?
Ansu Sesay
Tierre Brown
Marcus Fizer
Randy Livingston
Kasib Powell
Courtney Sims
Mike Harris
Curtis Stinson
Ron Howard
Othyus Jeffers
Tim Frazier
Jarnell Stokes
They are all former D-League MVP's. Get it? They were the BEST PLAYERS in the D-League. And that didn't mean at the NBA level.
Trying to prove that a guy is NBA-ready because he has good stats in the D-League is pure ignorance. Devin Brown and Matt Carroll were both D-League MVP's, and had minor NBA careers, and they are the exceptions. But even they never did anything in the NBA that looked like the numbers they put up in the D-League.
Argue all you want to. Hate on Parker all you want to. It's still stupid to try and project NBA success from D-League stats. Murray isn't ready to play a role in the NBA. Period. He's getting a chance to sit on the bench and learn, and get some mop-up minutes at the very ends of games.
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