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    Big Government... Again.

    Let the market for truth take care of this.
    It's Justice.

    They lie about someone, it's their penalty.

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    It's Justice.

    They lie about someone, it's their penalty.
    So on what specific grounds would you prosecute CNN or BuzzFeed for their reporting this week?

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    Could have been to make the allegations "newsworthy" enough to be reported, if you believe this is the IC getting revenge.
    Biden: Intel officials told us Trump allegations might leak

    WASHINGTON (AP) — Vice President Joe Biden said Thursday that top intelligence leaders told him and President Barack Obama they felt obligated to inform them about uncorroborated allegations about President-elect Donald Trump out of concern the information would become public and catch them off-guard.

    In an interview, Biden said neither he nor Obama asked U.S. intelligence agencies to try to corroborate the unverified claims that Russia had obtained compromising sexual and financial allegations about Trump.

    "I think it's something that obviously the agency thinks they have to track down," Biden said. He added later, "It surprised me in that it made it to the point where the agency, the FBI thought they had to pursue it."

    In the hourlong session with The Associated Press and other news outlets, the vice president was sharply critical of Trump for publicly disparaging intelligence officials, saying Trump was damaging U.S. standing and playing into Russia's hands. He also took umbrage at Trump's comments accusing intelligence agencies of allowing the information to leak publicly and drawing a comparison to "living in Nazi Germany."

    "The one thing you never want to invoke is Nazi Germany, no matter what the cir stances," Biden said. "It's an overwhelming diversion from the point you're trying to make."

    Biden said that in the briefing he and Obama received from Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and others, there were "no conclusions drawn" from the uncorroborated dossier, which was produced in August and then released publicly this week by the media. Biden said it was "totally ancillary" to the purpose of the meeting, which was to brief Obama on a report he ordered do enting Russian interference in the U.S. campaign.

    "As a matter of fact, the president was like, 'What does this have anything to do with anything?'" Biden said. He said intelligence leaders responded by saying "Well, we feel obliged to tell you, Mr. President, because you may hear about it. We're going to tell him," referring to Trump.

    Biden said intelligence leaders told him and Obama that they couldn't say whether or not the allegations were true or untrue. He said there was "hardly any discussion" about the allegations in the briefing.

    "Neither the president nor I asked for any detail," Biden said. But he added of the dossier: "I've read everything."

    Trump has vehemently denied the allegations included in a dossier about close coordination between Trump's inner circle and Russians. The dossier also included unsubstantiated claims about unusual sexual activities by Trump, attributed to anonymous sources. The Associated Press has not authenticated the claims. Trump has denied them.

    The FBI director has refused to say whether the FBI is investigating any possible ties between Russia and Trump's presidential campaign.

    The dossier was compiled by a former Western intelligence operative and had been circulating among news organizations and intelligence agencies in Washington for months. Its existence became known publicly following reports the intelligence community had briefed Trump on the dossier.

    In the interview, Biden criticized Trump's rocky relationship with intelligence officials. The president-elect has publicly challenged their assessment about Russia's role in the election and suggested they have skewed evidence. Trump has received the briefing a few times but has insisted he doesn't need it daily and suggested he knows more than intelligence leaders.

    Biden said it would be a "genuine tragedy" if Trump refused the daily intelligence briefing presidents traditionally receive.

    To illustrate his point, Biden took out the black tablet computer he uses to read his daily briefing and showed it to reporters as he sat next to a crackling fireplace in his office, just steps from the Oval Office. He said it is password-protected and includes a feature he uses to ask questions about the intelligence that are responded to the same day.

    Biden said at least five foreign leaders have already contacted him expressing concern over Trump's second-guessing of U.S. intelligence agencies.
    "It is really very damaging in my view to our standing in the world for a president to take one of the crown jewels of our national defense and denigrate it," Biden said. "It plays into, particularly now, the Russian narrative that America doesn't know what it's doing."

    After nearly half a century in public office, Biden will exit the national stage next Friday, although he plans to stay active in Democratic politics and work on policy issues at a pair of ins utes he's developing at the University of Delaware and the University of Pennsylvania. He also plans to continue with the cancer "moonshot" effort he launched after his son died.

    Biden was full of praise for his successor, Vice President-elect Mike Pence. He said he's been sending Pence memos with his advice on how to handle certain relationships, such as with Iraqi and Ukrainian leaders, and on "the things that could explode most easily."

    He said Pence had been receptive to his advice but had less time these days to speak to Biden due to the heavy role he's playing in setting up Trump's administration. Biden said he's made his national security adviser, Colin Kahl, available to Pence but hoped Pence would quickly name a national security adviser of his own.

    "It would be better if they had been in a better position where he actually had somebody that Colin could sit down with every morning," Biden said.
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    TSA-like posters are more incline to believe that 4chan made this up and that the CIA decided to trust some random guy with this information from that site, rather than trusting the agency and it's vetting process.

    They decided to include this piece of information in the intelligence briefing for a reason and I'm willing to bet it goes beyond just the 4chan factor. The minute we start questioniong whether the CIA cant vet a place like 4chan properly is the minute we should all start to worry about our safety.

    4Chan is like the lowest denominator of the internet. A joke site known for trolling.
    Trump doesn't win without the 4chan green frog army and the blessing of kek

    1488 GTKRWN!

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    the golden shower bit most definitely came from 4chan and made it's way onto the 35 page dossier.
    not true

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    Here is the part I'm talking about. I don't remember reading this when it was originally posted

    "It is not just unconfirmed: It includes some clear errors. The report misspells the name of one company, “Alpha Group,” throughout. It is Alfa Group. The report says the settlement of Barvikha, outside Moscow, is “reserved for the residences of the top leadership and their close associates.” It is not reserved for anyone, and it is also populated by the very wealthy."

    And here is the twitter timeline with them posting link to the same article ten minutes apart

    https://twitter.com/BuzzFeed?ref_src...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    3:29




    3:39
    Your links prove nothing. But even if true that they altered the article 10 minutes after publishing (doubt it) that cons utes a "walk back"? you are so ing dishonest

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    Your links prove nothing. But even if true that they altered the article 10 minutes after publishing (doubt it) that cons utes a "walk back"? you are so ing dishonest
    This is really pointless at this point but I find it funny that I'm providing some sort of proof to try and back my claim while you've done nothing to support yours. And yes I consider adding "it contains some clear errors" covering their asses ie: walking back.

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    how so?

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    So on what specific grounds would you prosecute CNN or BuzzFeed for their reporting this week?
    I don't know. I haven't paid attention to either for a rather long time.

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    This is really pointless at this point but I find it funny that I'm providing some sort of proof to try and back my claim while you've done nothing to support yours. And yes I consider adding "it contains some clear errors" covering their asses ie: walking back.
    that was in the original article

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    theres no proof it happened

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    theres no proof it happened
    no no no no no someone on 4chan said he did it! proof, his word is good enough. if there's anything we know about 4chan it's that it's a place filled with the most honest and honorable of anonymous neckbeards.

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    no no no no no someone on 4chan said he did it! proof, his word is good enough. if there's anything we know about 4chan it's that it's a place filled with the most honest and honorable of anonymous neckbeards.
    but but but TSA said it "most definitely" did! I'm so confused

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    no no no no no someone on 4chan said he did it! proof, his word is good enough. if there's anything we know about 4chan it's that it's a place filled with the most honest and honorable of anonymous neckbeards.
    We should give the benefit of the doubt to a site of anonymous people bragging about successfully misinforming people.

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    that was in the original article
    proof?

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    i read it and posted a screenshot on page 1 of this thread right after it was published

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    at the butthurt 3 amigos embarrassed for being duped

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    at the butthurt 3 amigos embarrassed for being duped
    the only one "duped" was Dale. He thought it was real. The rest of us were laughing at the newly created meme, hashtags, and lulz in response

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    i read it and posted a screenshot on page 1 of this thread right after it was published

    We all need to check out golden shower sex tape



    https://www.do entcloud.org/do e...legations.html


    Nothing about your screen shot has anything to do with Buzzfeed editing the original article

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    Nothing about your screen shot has anything to do with Buzzfeed editing the original article
    The timestamp does

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    at the butthurt 3 amigos embarrassed for being duped
    What was I duped by, Spirit Cookie?

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    We all need to check out golden shower sex tape



    https://www.do entcloud.org/do e...legations.html
    Looks like a forgery to me.

    Like the Bush Memo.

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    What was I duped by, Spirit Cookie?
    "Russians claim to have dirt on Trump" lol

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    "Russians claim to have dirt on Trump" lol
    That's it? An uneditable headline that I retracted less than 5 minutes after posting? lol ok, you nailed me Pizza Dude

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    The timestamp does
    What does your timestamp prove?

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