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    Tony was no better and no more "ready" in 2003 than Dijon is now. Moreover, Antonio Daniels wasn't as bad in 2003 than Tony is now.
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    And Pop wasn't Pop yet. No way Stephen Jackson starts on '03 if Pop had his current mindset.

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    Pop is such an inflexible, mechanical thinker, he'll never roll the dice on Murray unfortunately.
    too bad your parker doesn't sit out more. like when the spurs go on to beat the defending champs and kawhi has a career high.

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    Look: he is not the answer; he is not the savior, but the dude can't be in street clothes (likely)in playoffs when Porky/Microwave are stinking up the joint...

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    He's a youngster but Pop chose to stand pat. This youngling has to play...

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    Look: he is not the answer; he is not the savior, but the dude can't be in street clothes (likely)in playoffs when Porky/Microwave are stinking up the joint...
    We have to roll the dice here if there isn't any improvement with the PG rotation. Parker has looked awful since his return and House is still doing his 7 ty games/1 good game thing.

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    We have to roll the dice here if there isn't any improvement with the PG rotation. Parker has looked awful since his return and House is still doing his 7 ty games/1 good game thing.
    +dleague + Alzheimer Manu.... +Simmons turning into Tony Allen apparently...

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    +dleague + Alzheimer Manu.... +Simmons turning into Tony Allen apparently...
    Damn...our guards.

    Just 20 games left in the regular season and the Spurs don't have ANY guard playing consistently well. So worrisome.

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    Murray needs some burn..

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    Can someone make an "It's not happening" .gif?

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    ^ gracias

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    agree

    free Murray,

    and Bertans, too

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    We have to roll the dice here if there isn't any improvement with the PG rotation. Parker has looked awful since his return and House is still doing his 7 ty games/1 good game thing.
    Exactly! After Parker's benching last night, I wonder if Pop is finally seeing it, too.

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    Downside of Spurs being in the number one seed hunt is Murray won't see time at the end of the year. If it was apparent Spurs were locked into the two seed Murray would likely get a lot of run, maybe, if he showed it, carve out some playoff minutes.

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    Murray NEEDS to play...lower Parker's minutes...we don't have more years to waste...we KNOW parker won't do well in the playoffs...this "rookies need to get benched to teach then a lesson" mindset is silly... What if the pistons didn't start Prince in the playoffs when he was a rookie? Magic won a finals MVP as a rookie...what if they didn't trust him to play center in that final game? The dude is talented and better than parker right now...give him the experience he will need to help us win a championship THIS year! Parker ALWAYS let's us down in the pkst-season and murray is a hungry ballaholic... He has earned his keep

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    Murray NEEDS to play...lower Parker's minutes...we don't have more years to waste...we KNOW parker won't do well in the playoffs...this "rookies need to get benched to teach then a lesson" mindset is silly... What if the pistons didn't start Prince in the playoffs when he was a rookie? Magic won a finals MVP as a rookie...what if they didn't trust him to play center in that final game? The dude is talented and better than parker right now...give him the experience he will need to help us win a championship THIS year! Parker ALWAYS let's us down in the pkst-season and murray is a hungry ballaholic... He has earned his keep
    I agree...Murray needs to play. But he has to be coached also , or as you say "taught a lesson". Murray can get his shot off whenever he wants and he looks for it. He can't just come in doing that like he was in the Cleveland game. He was ON that game, but that hasn't been the case recently. First priority is he has to get the others involved. He seems to be understanding this now and Pop got him some minutes last night because he's learning.

    But you can't compare Prince to Murray...Prince had a defensive mindset so he fit into that lineup seamlessly. He wasn't looking for his shot and he wasn't running the team. And Magic? Let's not even go there I mean we're talking LeBron type vision and playmaking which Murray doesn't have. Even Murray's handle is a little suspect which I think most of us didn't realize. He was turning the ball over as soon as he'd enter a game. He wasn't focused.

    So, why isn't Murray playing more in Austin? You'd think that he needs more playing time right? Maybe Pop knows he has something special here and he just needs some time to understand how to run this team. So he wants him around at all times. He gave him some critical minutes last night. Maybe there's more to come. Otherwise why not just send him to Austin? I think Murray will contribute in the playoffs.

    As far as Parker letting the Spurs down I mean who hasn't let us down in the playoffs? You could literally name any current Spur.

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    She doesn't swallow....

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    I agree...Murray needs to play. But he has to be coached also , or as you say "taught a lesson". Murray can get his shot off whenever he wants and he looks for it. He can't just come in doing that like he was in the Cleveland game. He was ON that game, but that hasn't been the case recently. First priority is he has to get the others involved. He seems to be understanding this now and Pop got him some minutes last night because he's learning.

    But you can't compare Prince to Murray...Prince had a defensive mindset so he fit into that lineup seamlessly. He wasn't looking for his shot and he wasn't running the team. And Magic? Let's not even go there I mean we're talking LeBron type vision and playmaking which Murray doesn't have. Even Murray's handle is a little suspect which I think most of us didn't realize. He was turning the ball over as soon as he'd enter a game. He wasn't focused.

    So, why isn't Murray playing more in Austin? You'd think that he needs more playing time right? Maybe Pop knows he has something special here and he just needs some time to understand how to run this team. So he wants him around at all times. He gave him some critical minutes last night. Maybe there's more to come. Otherwise why not just send him to Austin? I think Murray will contribute in the playoffs.

    As far as Parker letting the Spurs down I mean who hasn't let us down in the playoffs? You could literally name any current Spur.
    For your Murray point: you don't get acclimated to the intensity of the NBA game by sitting on the sideline...you need trial by fire...getting used to player tendencies... Pressure moments...prince was put in to do what he has become known best for doing...we WANT murray to look for his shot...that's one of the problems with Parker... He can't get into the lane...and he isn't a scoring threat...he isn't even a pass-first pg...Murray has the potential to be great at both scoring and running the team...you don't learn to drive a car on the highway by reading the manual...he needs playing time NOW if we want to win this year...


    And every spur has let us down, but none with the track record of parker... Not only has he done it for more years, but his fall offs have been more drastic that everyone else's

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    They just assigned him and Bertans to Austin per my alert.

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    For your Murray point: you don't get acclimated to the intensity of the NBA game by sitting on the sideline...you need trial by fire...getting used to player tendencies... Pressure moments...prince was put in to do what he has become known best for doing...we WANT murray to look for his shot...that's one of the problems with Parker... He can't get into the lane...and he isn't a scoring threat...he isn't even a pass-first pg...Murray has the potential to be great at both scoring and running the team...you don't learn to drive a car on the highway by reading the manual...he needs playing time NOW if we want to win this year...


    And every spur has let us down, but none with the track record of parker... Not only has he done it for more years, but his fall offs have been more drastic that everyone else's
    Like I said, I think most of us want him to play more but he has to earn the time which he is currently doing. I like the fact he's playing in Austin again.

    As far as the Parker argument that's your opinion and I can respect that. In my opinion Ginobili out ranks Parker in the drastic fall off sense, but I will give credit to Ginobili and his resurrection so to speak almost kind of like Duncan when I thought both were done physically and they bounced back.

    Also, while I realize how blessed this franchise has been to find another franchise player in Kawhi in no way am I going to absolve him of "drastic fall offs" in the post season.

    We'll just have to agree to disagree on that.

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    They just assigned him and Bertans to Austin per my alert.
    Smh...he needs SF minutes over fathead...imagine fathead is not only this bad in the regular season, and afraid to shoot...but imagine when the pressure is on...I'm sure Bertrans will be a better sf defender than fathead is currently...he is longer AND more athletic....PLUS he can dribble and spread the floor...our coaching decisions are trying to be too cute that they are overlooking obvious choices... Sometimes the obvious choice is the best coaching decision

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    I agree...Murray needs to play. But he has to be coached also , or as you say "taught a lesson". Murray can get his shot off whenever he wants and he looks for it. He can't just come in doing that like he was in the Cleveland game. He was ON that game, but that hasn't been the case recently. First priority is he has to get the others involved. He seems to be understanding this now and Pop got him some minutes last night because he's learning.

    But you can't compare Prince to Murray...Prince had a defensive mindset so he fit into that lineup seamlessly. He wasn't looking for his shot and he wasn't running the team. And Magic? Let's not even go there I mean we're talking LeBron type vision and playmaking which Murray doesn't have. Even Murray's handle is a little suspect which I think most of us didn't realize. He was turning the ball over as soon as he'd enter a game. He wasn't focused.

    So, why isn't Murray playing more in Austin? You'd think that he needs more playing time right? Maybe Pop knows he has something special here and he just needs some time to understand how to run this team. So he wants him around at all times. He gave him some critical minutes last night. Maybe there's more to come. Otherwise why not just send him to Austin? I think Murray will contribute in the playoffs.

    As far as Parker letting the Spurs down I mean who hasn't let us down in the playoffs? You could literally name any current Spur.
    You're right. Murray only looks for his shot, but Parker doesnt?

    Im sorry but all the writing you did is nothing but bull . And a waste of your time.

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    Smh...he needs SF minutes over fathead...imagine fathead is not only this bad in the regular season, and afraid to shoot...but imagine when the pressure is on...I'm sure Bertrans will be a better sf defender than fathead is currently...he is longer AND more athletic....PLUS he can dribble and spread the floor...our coaching decisions are trying to be too cute that they are overlooking obvious choices... Sometimes the obvious choice is the best coaching decision
    I'd love to see Bertans get mins at the 3. Anderson kinda played himself out of the rotation anyway, so it's more about getting some of Simmons minutes.

    But Bertans has struggled defensively. That's why he's not getting minutes, that's what they said on a broadcast a couple weeks ago. Struggling with rotations and what not. We don't know what happens in practices too, so there's that

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