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    body bag!

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    Chris Wallace interviewed by another FOX employee says Trump has every right to be paranoid about Schiff and Pelosi.
    Their insistence on the administration making sure the 2020 elections are not interfered with by the Russians or any other country is a bipartisan issue which should be taken seriously using our intelligence apparatus. But since Trump only seems to trust his intelligence (Rudy report on Ukraine) and not intelligence that he does not like, Trump has every reason to not trust the Democrats from harping on the issue. Why?

    Because it’s legitimate.

    Look for Wallace to find his job with Fox become precarious.

    This is what you get with orange guy. Intelligence must be good news for him or trash it.
    Solution: Invent The deep state; but only when the intelligence requires you invoke this bogey man monolithic monster that is so well coordinated against (R)

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    Chris Wallace interviewed by another FOX employee says Trump has every right to be paranoid about Schiff and Pelosi.
    Their insistence on the administration making sure the 2020 elections are not interfered with by the Russians or any other country is a bipartisan issue which should be taken seriously using our intelligence apparatus. But since Trump only seems to trust his intelligence (Rudy report on Ukraine) and not intelligence that he does not like, Trump has every reason to not trust the Democrats from harping on the issue. Why?

    Because it’s legitimate.

    Look for Wallace to find his job with Fox become precarious.

    This is what you get with orange guy. Intelligence must be good news for him or trash it.
    Solution: Invent The deep state; but only when the intelligence requires you invoke this bogey man monolithic monster that is so well coordinated against (R)

    this is what i said years ago

    russia and trump colluded but the usa intel caught them

    and since then trump HAS to point at everyone but himself because he is a traitor on russias team



    whats changed?

    nothing


    he is still conning everyone that only HE is the victim - when he sold us out years ago


    why does it take so long for people to see truth - even when it appears right in their face?



    at the very latest


    Helsinki was all the proof anyone ever needed- trump stood next to putin and denounced usa intel and embRaced/defended/sided with russia in front of the world



    right there in your face




    why- years later is this still a debate?

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    this is what i said years ago

    russia and trump colluded but the usa intel caught them

    and since then trump HAS to point at everyone but himself because he is a traitor on russias team



    whats changed?

    nothing


    he is still conning everyone that only HE is the victim - when he sold us out years ago


    why does it take so long for people to see truth - even when it appears right in their face?



    at the very latest


    Helsinki was all the proof anyone ever needed- trump stood next to putin and denounced usa intel and embRaced/defended/sided with russia in front of the world



    right there in your face




    why- years later is this still a debate?
    Because the evidence does not indicate that Trump colluded with the Russians.
    Look up that word. Ignored the evidence, yes.

    Dont play games like DMC.

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    Because the evidence does not indicate that Trump colluded with the Russians.
    Look up that word. Ignored the evidence, yes.

    Dont play games like DMC.
    Read the Mueller report.

    MUeller could not prove a conspiracy for several reasons (which is another thread) but the collusion was there in front of the world (which has been pointed out also in hundreds of posts)

    standing in Helsinki in front of the world

    denouncing USA intel
    siding with Putin


    INSTEAD of condemning the russian attack is NOT proof of collusion or treasonous behavior -

    IN YOUR UNIVERSE???


    please explain- seriously



    any time this country has been attacked


    EVERY us president has defended the usa and condemned the attackers-

    except this time



    please explain how - IN YOUR UNIVERSE -

    this is not - at least colluding with an enemy???


    I read the MUeller report -several times - did you?


    Nowhere does it say that trump did anything honorable and it CLEARLY CONCLUDES

    that russia systematically or systemically conducted a coordinated attack on the USA election to hurt hrc and benefit trump


    it also concludes that Trump team welcomed the attack



    in what universe does this NOT equal colluding with an enemy attacker?

    please explain-

    someone attacks the usa - and the evidence has concluded it - and a US president WELCOMES it




    in WHICH UNIVERSE - does it allow YOU to STILL minimize the treasonous behavior - 3 ING YEARS LATER


    as the russians again are exposed to be REPEATING it


    and trump is FIRING the intel officer who legally reported it to congress???


    I dont understand your blindness- willful blindness,

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    Because the evidence does not indicate that Trump colluded with the Russians.
    Look up that word. Ignored the evidence, yes.

    Dont play games like DMC.
    You're about to get called a traitor and Trump-sucker.

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    Whether Mueller is willing to admit it or not, Trump was exonerated by “his” “investigation”.
    Based on what the, report never said he was innocent of obstruction

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    Based on what the, report never said he was innocent of obstruction
    Trump's contempt for the rule of law and the separation of powers is epochal, even if he loses in November.

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    Read the Mueller report.

    MUeller could not prove a conspiracy for several reasons (which is another thread) but the collusion was there in front of the world (which has been pointed out also in hundreds of posts)

    standing in Helsinki in front of the world

    denouncing USA intel
    siding with Putin


    INSTEAD of condemning the russian attack is NOT proof of collusion or treasonous behavior


    IN YOUR UNIVERSE???


    please explain- seriously



    any time this country has been attacked


    EVERY us president has defended the usa and condemned the attackers-

    except this time



    please explain how - IN YOUR UNIVERSE -

    this is not - at least colluding with an enemy???


    I read the MUeller report -several times - did you?


    Nowhere does it say that trump did anything honorable and it CLEARLY CONCLUDES

    that russia systematically or systemically conducted a coordinated attack on the USA election to hurt hrc and benefit trump


    it also concludes that Trump team welcomed the attack



    in what universe does this NOT equal colluding with an enemy attacker?

    please explain-

    someone attacks the usa - and the evidence has concluded it - and a US president WELCOMES it




    in WHICH UNIVERSE - does it allow YOU to STILL minimize the treasonous behavior - 3 ING YEARS LATER


    as the russians again are exposed to be REPEATING it


    and trump is FIRING the intel officer who legally reported it to congress???


    I dont understand your blindness- willful blindness,
    Because that's what -45- believed & believes.

    Playing grab ass, stinky finger & troll on social Media sites ain't collusion nor meddling.

    It is: it's a hoax, a crock of & the old man ain't buyin' it. & if he ain't buyin' it---I ain't buyin' itPERIOD

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    Because that's what -45- believed & believes.

    Playing grab ass, stinky finger & troll on social Media sites ain't collusion nor meddling.

    It is: it's a hoax, a crock of & the old man ain't buyin' it. & if he ain't buyin' it---I ain't buyin' itPERIOD

    he is en led to his own opinion



    the FACTS are indisputable for the segment of the planet that still believe their own eyes/ears

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    he is en led to his own opinion



    the FACTS are indisputable for the segment of the planet that still believe their own eyes/ears
    Now it turns out the Intelligence official lied about the information that Russia favored Trump. Like I said it wasn't to get Trump involved...it was strictly to get Sanders in the pickle.

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    Now it turns out the Intelligence official lied about the information that Russia favored Trump. Like I said it wasn't to get Trump involved...it was strictly to get Sanders in the pickle.
    Link?

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    You don't think he's fat?

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    That's not what the article says. It also accuses O'Brien of stretching the truth re: Sanders.

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    That's not what the article says. It also accuses O'Brien of stretching the truth re: Sanders.
    That's the implication of the headline & attendant thrust...(they) just have to soft soap it. Even when it broke CNN hedged just a teensy weensy because it was a set up all the way to harm not the old man, but, to use that Russian to hurt Sanders. Like I said:::they ain't waiting till it's too late to assault Sanders. They're going now, head him off at the pass, no-matter-what.

    Sanders can't beat Trump & anybody with a half a brain knows it.

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    Now it turns out the Intelligence official lied about the information that Russia favored Trump. Like I said it wasn't to get Trump involved...it was strictly to get Sanders in the pickle.

    wrong

    the trump administration is lying right now on orders from trump

    the intel gave a factual classified briefing stating the FACT that putin is helping trump on the right and bernie on the left


    trump fired the intel guy for telling the truth and doing his job

    trump sent out his henchmen today to lie to americans about this FACT because this helps russia and trump


    ing liars working for the traitor liar in chief

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    Read the Mueller report.

    MUeller could not prove a conspiracy for several reasons (which is another thread) but the collusion was there in front of the world (which has been pointed out also in hundreds of posts)

    standing in Helsinki in front of the world

    denouncing USA intel
    siding with Putin


    INSTEAD of condemning the russian attack is NOT proof of collusion or treasonous behavior -

    IN YOUR UNIVERSE???


    please explain- seriously



    any time this country has been attacked


    EVERY us president has defended the usa and condemned the attackers-

    except this time



    please explain how - IN YOUR UNIVERSE -

    this is not - at least colluding with an enemy???


    I read the MUeller report -several times - did you?


    Nowhere does it say that trump did anything honorable and it CLEARLY CONCLUDES

    that russia systematically or systemically conducted a coordinated attack on the USA election to hurt hrc and benefit trump


    it also concludes that Trump team welcomed the attack



    in what universe does this NOT equal colluding with an enemy attacker?

    please explain-

    someone attacks the usa - and the evidence has concluded it - and a US president WELCOMES it




    in WHICH UNIVERSE - does it allow YOU to STILL minimize the treasonous behavior - 3 ING YEARS LATER


    as the russians again are exposed to be REPEATING it


    and trump is FIRING the intel officer who legally reported it to congress???


    I dont understand your blindness- willful blindness,
    Collusion requires that Trump and Russia cooperated and planned TOGETHER. By what I understand.

    So who came up with the plan to begin with?
    Which party first contacted the other party?
    What was the plan and how did it evolve or change?
    What States were specifically focused on?
    Why did Minnesota go wrong?

    There are so many questions that should have an answer if Trump and Russia colluded together on a plan to interfere... no its more than interfere, planned to win the election for Trump. Interference by the Russians makes the most sense because all it requires is to plant seeds of doubt and let them sprout. A plan to set a contentious division of beliefs against each other. And this interference has worked. Trump is perfectly in tune with this because it is exactly how he campaigns and runs a government.

    We are coming closer to "I am the State, and the State is Me."

    And its because a significant number of people in the US want a leader to tell them this.
    We cant handle a leader who states a plan, explains what it is supposed to do, outlines possible shortcomings.
    We want someone who says I am the way to this result.

    Not, I will follow the rules of our government (because this is what CAN make us different from other countries) to produce these results by this method upon which our cons ution is founded.

    This entire presidency is one that plans to create contention and divisions that allow for distractions that allow the erosion of basic ethics imo. Basically to suit one man while others slip in their own goals during this distraction using the lack of candor and truth.

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    Sanders can't beat Trump & anybody with a half a brain knows it.
    That's what all the wise heads said about Trump in 2016.

    All the wise heads were wrong, it could happen again. In terms of popularity there's no comparison --- Sanders is far more popular than Trump today or HRC in 2016

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    Collusion requires that Trump and Russia cooperated and planned TOGETHER. By what I understand
    well

    that's active collusion, such a Jr going to meet Russians for dirt, Flynn talking pre-inaugurations to Russians about Magnitsky sanctions, Jared giving Repug demographic data to Cambridge Anal

    Passive collusion would be Trash and his mafiya learning about, INVITING Russian attacks on USA and not reporting that crime to FBI/NatSec.

    Trash could clear it all up, but he knows transparency would be get him impeached, and maybe convicted.




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    That's what all the wise heads said about Trump in 2016.

    All the wise heads were wrong, it could happen again. In terms of popularity there's no comparison --- Sanders is far more popular than Trump today or HRC in 2016
    Its all about how the word socialism will be interpreted imo.
    The blue team better get out ahead of this and define it for the people.

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    Bernie Sanders’s definition of democratic socialism, explained

    Four months into his second presidential campaign, Sanders took the stage at George Washington University to make his clearest case for democratic socialism.

    It was a case he made in 2015, too, at a speech down the road at Georgetown University, but it appears the moment has caught up to his argument.

    "we must take up the unfinished business of the New Deal and carry it to completion. ...

    We must recognize that in the 21st century, in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, economic rights are human rights.

    That is what I mean by democratic socialism.”

    “[Authoritarian leaders] redirect popular anger about inequality and declining economic conditions into violent rage against minorities —

    whether they are immigrants, racial minorities, religious minorities or the LGBT community,” Sanders said.

    “And to suppress dissent, they are cracking down on democracy and human rights.”

    , Sanders’s speech also invoked Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

    He made the same call for an economic bill of rights:

    for health care,

    affordable housing,

    racial equality,

    a clean environment, and

    a living wage.

    Sanders may have a newfound status as a frontrunner, but

    a democratic socialist in America still has to define their vision in terms that Americans can understand —

    and can fit into a fiercely capitalistic society.

    Bernie Sanders’s agenda has been normalized in Democratic politics

    The rallying cries that distinguished him from Clinton in 2016 —

    Medicare-for-all,
    a $15 minimum wage,
    campaign finance reform,
    free college —

    are no longer unique positions.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...lism-explained



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    CNN just had to step back so that they can say Russia wants Trump after Bernie wins the nomination.

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