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    Glenn Greenwald now quoting Undercover Huber while Pavlov still gets no recognition for all his years of posting.



    poor fella
    Haven't you gotten your golden pizza award for years of service yet?

    poor fella

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    lol so butthurt

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    Glenn Greenwald now quoting Undercover Huber while Pavlov still gets no recognition for all his years of posting.
    Your lack of self awareness continues to amaze.

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    lol so butthurt
    lol yes you are

    Any more pictures of Q hanging with the Secret Service outside Air Force One, TSA?

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    lol yes you are

    Any more pictures of Q hanging with the Secret Service outside Air Force One, TSA?
    projecting and deflecting in the same post.

    poor fella.

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    projecting and deflecting in the same post.

    poor fella.
    TSA still can't own the fact that he's now the worst conspiracy monger here.

    You're worse than Nbadan.

    poor fella.

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    "Huber has the authority to impanel a grand jury, however it appears he has done nothing since Jeff Sessions appointed him in the Fall of 2017 to investigate FISA abuses."



    Hoisted upon your own pe .

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    didn't take long for Nadler - to be targeted

    if Jesus Christ came down from heaven and said he was going to investigate Trumps crimes -

    the right wing nazi's would sudenly find "dirt" on JC!


    Nazis were socialists (cue the technical arguments from 1st year history dropouts)

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    Nazis were socialists

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    Nazis were socialists (cue the technical arguments from 1st year history dropouts)

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    Nazis were socialists (cue the technical arguments from 1st year history dropouts)
    Explain how they were socialists and not fascists.

    Technically.

    Using your history doctorate.

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    Explain how they were socialists and not fascists.

    Technically.

    Using your history doctorate.
    Why Are We Socialists?

    We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

    Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

    The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

    The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

    We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.



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    Why Are We Socialists?

    We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

    Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

    The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

    The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

    We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.



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    Sorry, that isn't your explaining how the Nazis are socialists and not fascists.

    Let's see what your History PhD says.

    Bring it.

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    Why Are We Socialists?

    We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our German state.

    Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our Fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining German freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the German people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

    The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism’s nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of Marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

    The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the Marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and Marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

    We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and Marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers’ state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.



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    welp

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    Sorry, that isn't your explaining how the Nazis are socialists and not fascists.

    Let's see what your History PhD says.

    Bring it.
    Goebbels himself states they are socialists. Even if they don't match your present day ideal of socialism, they ran on propaganda aimed to appeal to socialists and they took power by doing so. They claimed to be socialists, and the socialists believed them. Ergo they were socialists.

    Now again, tell me how technically they weren't since no true Scotsman would ever do what they did and call himself a Scot.

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    Goebbels himself states they are socialists. Even if they don't match your present day ideal of socialism, they ran on propaganda aimed to appeal to socialists and they took power by doing so. They claimed to be socialists, and the socialists believed them. Ergo they were socialists.

    Now again, tell me how technically they weren't since no true Scotsman would ever do what they did and call himself a Scot.
    you still haven't explained how they were actual socialists and not fascists, professor.

    You're really bad at this.

    Still waiting for you to bring it.

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    are fascism and socialism even mutually exclusive?

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    you still haven't explained how they were actual socialists and not fascists, professor.

    You're really bad at this.

    Still waiting for you to bring it.
    No true Scotsman as I predicted

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    are fascism and socialism even mutually exclusive?
    Not according to Ayn Rand. “Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism are only superficial variations of the same monstrous theme—collectivism.”

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    Chumpy Googling as we speak

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    Not according to Ayn Rand. “Fascism, Nazism, Communism and Socialism are only superficial variations of the same monstrous theme—collectivism.”
    my general understanding is that socialism is an economic structure (government controlled means of production) and fascism is a political system... authoritarian, single party rule with hypernationalist policy

    thats a very cliff notes, dumbed down version, but i dont see why you cant have a fascist government operate under either a socialist, capitalist, or mixed-market economy

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    my general understanding is that socialism is an economic structure (government controlled means of production) and fascism is a political system... authoritarian, single party rule with hypernationalist policy

    thats a very cliff notes, dumbed down version, but i dont see why you cant have a fascist government operate under either a socialist, capitalist, or mixed-market economy
    Nazi Germany controlled the means of production, what they produced, how much and what they would be paid. They had private owners only by name.

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