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    Watergate implies political purposes

    CI’s are not typically considered spies but i know we can get into semantics. Espionage by definition seeks political or military information
    Would an undercover FBI agent sent at the campaign be spying?

    Would illegally using a FISA warrant be spying?

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    You mean his opinion column?
    TSA


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    Not sure why you get so defensive when the word spying is used.

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    Not sure why you get so defensive when the word spying is used.
    He was laughing at you. That's what means.

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    Lol

    comrade TSA

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    You and the media in general pushed Russian disinformation for 3 years while sowing discord in the USA. You did exactly what Putin wanted, puppet.

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    You and the media in general pushed Russian disinformation for 3 years while sowing discord in the USA. You did exactly what Putin wanted, puppet.
    talk to me AFTER

    trump and barr release the unredacted Mueller report and the grand jury info

    and

    after the FBI releases info on trumps other 13 investigations that barr is also covering up

    boiled down:

    russia attacked- and offered to help trump in the election

    trump team welcomed the help


    end of ing story


    i wont defend treason and unpatriotism like you do- comrade.


    why the cover up- if trump is innocent you ing rube?

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    You and the media in general pushed Russian disinformation for 3 years while sowing discord in the USA. You did exactly what Putin wanted, puppet.
    Hey, maybe you can try saying Trump was too distracted by this to do his ing job and keep himself from killing thousands of American citizens. That's next, isn't it?

    sowing discord bad now (birther/massive vote fraud/pizza/Q)

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    talk to me AFTER

    trump and barr release the unredacted Mueller report and the grand jury info

    and

    after the FBI releases info on trumps other 13 investigations that barr is also covering up

    boiled down:

    russia attacked- and offered to help trump in the election

    trump team welcomed the help


    end of ing story


    i wont defend treason and unpatriotism like you do- comrade.


    why the cover up- if trump is innocent you ing rube?
    I don’t need to wait until after. I watched you push Russian disinformation in real time for 3+ years. You’re still doing it to this day, Putin’s puppet.
    Last edited by TSA; 04-11-2020 at 04:58 PM.

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    I don’t follow Hannity so I’ll have to take your word.

    Go through each Solomon article and read the editors notes.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/news/48...mns-on-ukraine
    Thanks for the link. I think it resumes fairly well how he was trying to pass opinion for actual news, a hallmark of fake news.

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    I don’t need to wait until after. I watched you push Russian disinformation in real time for 3+ years. You’re still doing it to this day, Putin’s puppet.


    lololol


    just happened to catch a do entary on fake news/disinformation...


    pizzagate was delved into....


    tsa - you are one gullible stupid re ed mother er


    im embarrassed to have ever wasted time on you


    lol pizzagate

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    TSA

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    So you're saying Durham's investigation is full of leaks.

    OK

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    AG Barr just signaled that things are about to get ugly for the Russia collusion team

    “Travesty” is not a nice word. It usually is applied to gross perversions of justice, and that apparently is the context Attorney General William Barr desired when he dropped it into an interview answer the other day in the breezy courtyard of the Department of Justice (DOJ).

    His composed, understated delivery almost disguised the weighty magnitude of that disturbing word and the loaded adjective that preceded it. “I think what happened to him,” he said, referring to the president and the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into his campaign, “was one of the greatest travesties in American history.”

    Okay, it’s important to pause for a moment and absorb what the AG said. He just called an FBI investigation not just a travesty but one of the “greatest” travesties in the nation’s history. It was an unprecedented statement by an attorney general about his own department’s premier agency.


    The FBI has made plenty of mistakes, but never in its 112-year history has an FBI investigation been characterized as a travesty, let alone one that equates to other hall-of-fame travesties in American history.

    Is the AG’s assessment fair? The answer is entwined in his next statement: “Without any basis [the FBI] started this investigation into [Donald Trump’s] campaign ... .”

    Oops, stop again right there. Mr. Barr is making a definitive statement about that which many of us have speculated all along, namely that the weirdly unprecedented investigative team put together by former FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe did not have adequate legal reasons to open a case into the Trump campaign in the first place. The attorney general just confirmed that.

    But wait a minute, doesn’t that directly contradict DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s assertion that the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation was justified?

    Two things to keep in mind regarding that inconsistency.


    First, remember that IG Horowitz reached two primary and controversial conclusions: 1) that there was adequate justification for starting the investigation, and 2) that there was no “evidence” of political bias as a motivating factor for the investigation. He based his conclusions, according to his report, solely on his interviews of the FBI individuals who started and ran the case — from Mr. Comey on down. That’s our story, they all said, and we’re stickin’ to it.

    This would be like an FBI agent interviewing four subjects suspected of robbing a bank and, after hearing their denials, concluding there was no evidence they committed the crime.

    In fairness, the IG is not a criminal investigator and certainly not steeped in counterintelligence matters. The attorney general, on the other hand, owns the Attorney General Guidelines that dictate what it takes to initiate an FBI investigation, particularly of an American citizen. He is the ultimate arbiter.

    Which leads to the second point: The AG is logically being briefed on the progress and findings of U.S. Attorney John Durham’s investigation, which he commissioned to examine how the empty Russia collusion case got started in the first place and if it involved any wrongdoing on the part of the government. It is a safe bet that Mr. Durham is collecting evidence beyond the self-serving statements of the FBI principals involved. It also is now a safe bet that his findings will respectfully disagree with Mr. Horowitz’s.

    Attorney General Barr communicates in a clear, understandable, calm-as-a-summer-evening manner uncommon in Washington. He undoubtedly did not get to his current position without being a skilled litigator, whose first rule is never make a statement to the court that you can’t back up. His newsworthy claim that there was zero basis for the FBI’s investigation stands, in all probability, on a mound of — in his words — “troubling” evidence now in his possession.


    Many in the media immediately sputtered that the FBI was certainly justified because Trump campaign third-stringer George Papadopoulos told an Australian official, in a bar, that the Russians had email dirt on Hillary Clinton.

    The media may wish that Papadopoulos’s comment is sufficient justification to investigate a candidate for president, but it is not. An experienced Russia counterintelligence FBI agent would have recognized immediately that the Australian’s assertion, while moderately interesting for existing investigations of Russians, was not nearly enough to open an invasive investigation of American citizens.

    The biased, overeager Comey and McCabe, however, opened an unprecedented full-blown investigation into a presidential campaign. Worse, Durham possibly will show that the Comey team started involving itself in questionable intelligence community activities that improperly ran confidential sources against Papadopoulos well before they officially opened a case — a potentially big no-no that, if proven, will not go well for all involved.

    That is especially true in light of what the AG went on to say during his interview. He likened the Comey team’s inappropriate investigation and subsequent fallout to sabotage, or the effects of sabotage. “Sabotage” is another powerful word, technically a wartime crime, but a useful metaphor in its ramifications, since it implicates a range of supporting crimes such as conspiracy, fraud, perjury and false statements.

    The AG then ominously stated that he is not interested in simply receiving a “report” from Durham. He expects him to focus on possible criminal violations: “And if people broke the law, and we can establish that with the evidence, they will be prosecuted.”

    These are incredibly hopeful words to many Americans who have come to believe — after the 2008 Wall Street-driven financial collapse, after the numerous Clinton family schemes and scandals, and after the wasteful Mueller “investigation” — that the powerful are never held accountable.

    This is an attorney general projecting an air of confidence, not afraid to speak truth to slippery politicians even though the pushback will be fierce and personal. In light of that, it’s hard to imagine his confidence isn’t buttressed with mounting evidence of abusive government actions.

    This is what the Durham investigation could well conclude: A group of people aligned with or sympathetic to one political party conspired to illicitly use the authorities of the FBI to besmirch the opposing party’s presidential candidate — and that every effort should be made to indict those who can be charged as a result.

    If true, such a thing has never happened before. It would represent a direct, unprecedented attack on our democracy, to fraudulently influence the voting public with lies ostensibly emanating as facts from a noble, traditionally trusted FBI. And that, indeed, would be a travesty of historical significance. One never to be repeated, we can hope, against any future president of either party.

    Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, which consults with private companies and public-safety agencies on strategic mission technologies.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciar...for-the-russia

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    ^^^purple prose and prognostications

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    Boooommmm!!!


    lololololol


    tsa = pizzagate


    nuff sed

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    Why have Trash and his mafiya lied, "forgotten", obstructed investigations for years into Trash and his mafiya's connections with Pootin?

    After LYING about Mueller's report, Barr has ZERO credibility.

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    Why are we seeing all of these docs about the investigation, but cannot see ANY of docs that Trash/Barr are withholding?

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    wrong thread. meanwhile why tf is this bumped to the top rn

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    Yeah, the dossier was raw intel. That's why it got investigated. The only reason it blew up is because the actions of Trump and his campaign.

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    wrong thread. meanwhile why tf is this bumped to the top rn
    TSA has been beating the drumbeats of doom for the DEEP STATE for four years...it all started with a rumor about Comet Ping-Pong in Washington DC.

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    TSA has been beating the drumbeats of doom for the DEEP STATE for four years...it all started with a rumor about Comet Ping-Pong in Washington DC.

    lol


    pizzagate level IQ

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