Do you believe Page is a victim - yes or no?
oh and
GFY
You're still not answering the questions, and now on top of throwing the Obama appointed Inspector General Horowitz under the boss just tossed Mueller and his report under the bus
Simple yes or no answers, stop being a pussy.
The Obama appointed Inspector General presented evidence in his report that proved there was FISA abuse by the FBI. Are you claiming that is not true? Yes or no.
Did the Obama appointed Inspector General produce doctored/falsified evidence in his report to frame the FBI? Yes or no.
Do you believe Page is a victim - yes or no?
oh and
GFY
Yes. Page was the victim of the most intrusive surveillance our government does and it was done against him illegally.
Simple yes or no answers, stop being a pussy.
The Obama appointed Inspector General presented evidence in his report that proved there was FISA abuse by the FBI. Are you claiming that is not true? Yes or no.
Did the Obama appointed Inspector General produce doctored/falsified evidence in his report to frame the FBI? Yes or no.
I don't even have boutons on ignore.
eye torture
wrong
the same IG dude concluded that the investigation was predicated on legal means-
so your “investigated illegally” premise is destroyed already
4th or 5th time answering you:
we will not know if the investigation ordered by Barr was truly legitimate until this chapter is closed and an independent panel uncovers everything that Trump and Barr ordered done
we will not know until it is taken apart piece by piece
THAT is the answer - right NOW - no one knows what kind of ery Barr orchestrated
ask the same ANSWERED question again-
you will be ignored.
Too much of a pussy to answer a simple yes or no lol.
No, I'm right. We aren't discussing the entire investigation, we are discussing the FISA warrant obtained on Page. The warrant against Page was obtained illegally with fraudulent do ents and exculpatory evidence hidden from the court.
You didn't answer .
The Inspectors General office is independent you stupid
I’m a federal criminal defense attorney. This range shocked me as unduly high given the non-violent nature of the underlying crimes. To provide some perspective, a mul ude of violent crimes come with lower guidelines calculations. For example, if you use a gun during a crime of violence or drug trafficking, the guidelines range is 60 months; if you brandish a gun during the same, the guidelines range is 84 months.
How the Government Got to Nine Years
In Stone’s case, the government’s calculation relies on several guidelines enhancements. Generally speaking, certain conduct can increase the offense level guidelines calculation. Here, the base offense level is 14, but with all of the enhancements the government argued for, it jumped to 29.
One enhancement the government recommended jumped out. The government argued that an eight-point enhancement is warranted because Stone’s obstruction of justice “involved causing or threatening to cause physical injury to a person, or property damage.” The government pointed to two particular comments by Stone to a witness: “Prepare to die, c-cksucker” and him threatening to “take that dog away from you.”
Standing alone, it’s not clear these rise to the level of a “violent threat” as required by the enhancement. In fact, I would argue that this is not a case where “reasonable minds” can disagree. This enhancement is a stretch. Particularly significant is that the individual who was the recipient of these “threats” testified at trial that he did not seriously believe Stone would follow through on his so-called threats.
When I did a quick search of D.C. Circuit cases applying this enhancement, I couldn’t find anything. That’s not to say it would never apply, but the infrequency which with the enhancement seems to be used is somewhat telling.
A Big Jump On a Weak Foundation
The guidelines contain commentary by its drafters. The commentary is meant to further explain the provisions. Here, the guidelines commentary to this enhancement notes that it should “reflect the more serious form of obstruction.” This likely explains why the enhancement is reserved for the more serious, palpable threats.
In its submission to the court, the government relies on cases outside its jurisdiction in support of the enhancement, but in none of those cases did the witness testify that he did not take the so-called threats seriously. What’s significant is that this eight-point enhancement increased the guidelines range from 37 to 46 months to 87 to 108 months. That’s a significant jump for a not so solid enhancement.
While it’s absolutely true that it’s standard practice for the federal government to recommend a guidelines sentence, this begs the question: What’s the appropriate guidelines calculation? As one Twitter user noted, “The Guidelines don’t calculate themselves.”
Stone’s lawyers objected to each of the enhancements the government proposed. On the eight-level enhancement discussed above, Stone’s lawyers cite numerous cases demonstrating why the enhancement should not apply here, and even quote from a letter to the court by the witness of the so-called threats, wherein he denies that he felt threatened and that he “chalked up [Stone’s] bellicose tirades to ‘Stone being Stone’ All bark no bite!”
https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/12...one-is-insane/
Lol
stone threatened the judge in his own ing case
prosecutors were spot on in their submission
they are patriots for resigning to show the corruption from trump/barr
/thread
/thread no...this thread will be forever bumped as a reminder to you and all the other stupid s that believed the Russiagate hoax
speaking of stupid s where is OP djohn2oo8?
TSA lashing out all over the place because of the QAnon threads
What happened in the QAnon threads?
Lot of assumptions there to unpack, your "characterization" of the facts lacks credibility imho.
(Go ahead, beat your chest in public some more...)
Russiagate HOAX?
Why haver Trash and his mafiya "forgotten", lied, obstructed for 3+ years everything about Russia?
Why are Trash/Barr hiding the EVIDENCE on which the Mueller report was based?
Why did Jared want an extra-governmental crypto channel to Pootin? (I bet he eventually, actually got one, to take instructions from Pootin)
Why did Trash in Helsinki say USA's 17 govt agencies were WRONG, and he believed his puppetmaster Pootin?
because we called it long ago
and only traitors call trumps treason
a “hoax”
Looks like Stone had ty representation.
its the attorneys' job to strike jurors
Really? “Prepare to die, c-cksucker” doesn't “rise to the level of a violent threat”? Even if the recipient didn't think he would follow through, it doesn't stop being one.
This is the problem with commentary like this, you need total suspension of reality to argue that point. Plus the prosecution job *is* to throw the book at him, because the judge eventually is the one that decides.
And, btw, you can see that he's very much agreeing that the prosecution simply stuck to the federal sentencing guidelines, because that's what prosecutors do. There wasn't anything weird about what the prosecution requested.
yeah, I guess Stone had ty lawyers
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