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    Seems like he was really focused on cooperation with Russia on solving problems in the ME.
    So your claim is sanctions were not discussed at all?

    Honestly?

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    the expelling of russian dipolmats wasn't part of the sanctions? really?
    Yes really.

    https://www.treasury.gov/resource-ce.../cyber2_eo.pdf

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    So your claim is sanctions were not discussed at all?

    Honestly?
    Not from any mention of revoking them. He didn't want them to escalate. Put him in jail.

    Whole thing is stupid.

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    thinking Treasury would expel diplomats

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    Not from any mention of revoking them. He didn't want them to escalate. Put him in jail.

    Whole thing is stupid.
    He was stupid for doing it then lying to everyone about it.

    Why would you want your National Security Adviser to lie to everyone about that, Darrin? Be honest.

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    This is what Mueller said Flynn lied about, Mueller lied.

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    This is what Mueller said Flynn lied about, Mueller lied.
    "...Escalating the situation caused by sanctions...."

    Yep. Mueller didn't lie.

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    This is what Mueller said Flynn lied about, Mueller lied.
    You mean, what Flynn said he lied about?

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    You mean, what Flynn said he lied about?
    TSA says Flynn lied about what Flynn lied about.

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    You mean, what Flynn said he lied about?
    Sanctions weren’t discussed. The do ent I just posted is literally what Mueller cited as Flynn lying about. It never happened. Mueller lied.

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    Haven't really followed, but whatever happened with the alleged ' slapping' from the appeals court? Did they shut down the case yet?

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    Sanctions weren’t discussed. The do ent I just posted is literally what Mueller cited as Flynn lying about. It never happened. Mueller lied.
    But Flynn admitted to lying, twice. Was that what he admitted to lying about?

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    After reading that transcript, there was definitely no reason for the FBI to give him a "visit".

    If you disagree, please state why.

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    After reading that transcript, there was definitely no reason for the FBI to give him a "visit".

    If you disagree, please state why.
    He had already lied to Pence, who made that lie public.

    Why do you think this is not a big deal for a National Security Adviser?

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    After reading that transcript, there was definitely no reason for the FBI to give him a "visit".

    If you disagree, please state why.
    I think both of these lines discuss sanctions:

    Do not, do not uh, allow this administration to box us in, right now, okay?

    I just wanted to tell you that we found that these actions have targeted not only against Russia, but also against the president elect.

    Considering they came within 1-3 days right after the US applied sanctions to Russia.

    The FBI was conducting an investigation on the Trump's campaign for collusion with Russia, so it makes sense they would ask for an explanation about that.

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    I agree it would likely have been a nothingburger if he didn't lie to the feds.

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    Why do you keep posting Flynn talking about a reciprocal response to expelled Russians?

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    Why do you keep posting Flynn talking about a reciprocal response to expelled Russians?
    what about at the top where Kislyak mentions the GRU and FSB being sanctioned (part of the executive order you kindly linked for us)? how did Flynn respond?

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    I agree it would likely have been a nothingburger if he didn't lie to the feds.

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    what about at the top where Kislyak mentions the GRU and FSB being sanctioned (part of the executive order you kindly linked for us)? how did Flynn respond?
    What about it? He doesn’t once say anything about not responding to sanctions as Mueller claimed. Flynn goes right back to discussing the expelled Russians. Exactly what he was talking before that you conveniently cropped out. Why did you crop out the top half of page 10 and not include the context of page 9?

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/site...scripts%29.pdf

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    I think both of these lines discuss sanctions:

    Do not, do not uh, allow this administration to box us in, right now, okay?

    I just wanted to tell you that we found that these actions have targeted not only against Russia, but also against the president elect.

    Considering they came within 1-3 days right after the US applied sanctions to Russia.

    The FBI was conducting an investigation on the Trump's campaign for collusion with Russia, so it makes sense they would ask for an explanation about that.
    Russians were expelled at the same time. Sanctions and explosions were two separate issues by two different departments. Mueller lied.

    “I have issued an executive order that provides additional authority for responding to certain cyber activity that seeks to interfere with or undermine our election processes and ins utions, or those of our allies or partners. Using this new authority, I have sanctioned nine en ies and individuals: the GRU and the FSB, two Russian intelligence services; four individual officers of the GRU; and three companies that provided material support to the GRU’s cyber operations. In addition, the Secretary of the Treasury is designating two Russian individuals for using cyber-enabled means to cause misappropriation of funds and personal identifying information. The State Department is also shutting down two Russian compounds, in Maryland and New York, used by Russian personnel for intelligence-related purposes, and is declaring “persona non grata” 35 Russian intelligence operatives. Finally, the Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Bureau of Investigation are releasing declassified technical information on Russian civilian and military intelligence service cyber activity, to help network defenders in the United States and abroad identify, detect, and disrupt Russia’s global campaign of malicious cyber activities.”

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...cyber-activity

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    TSA DarrinS Chris:

    Why did Flynn just get thrown under the bus?

    Who do you think did him this way?

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    What's your honest interpretation?
    Undermining the US.

    Russia had cyberattacked the US. US president imposed sanctions.

    Flynn- NEVER once held the Russian to account. nEVeR - took a stand for the US- and instead

    tried to appease the enemy foreign govt - and even agree with them when the sly Russian accused the US president of going after Trump- which was a classic Russian ploy and which no respectable US representative would have ever fallen for.

    Even if flynn, trump and his treasonous s administration HATED the US president-


    they would have never shown such disgraceful treasonous behavior. The Russians would have at least respected the pushback and the loyalty to America.

    Instead - the russians KNEW they had trump team COMPROMISED.

    but all of that is only valid - IF Trump team was actually playing on America’s side.


    They never were. They work for Russia and so do you.

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    What about it? He doesn’t once say anything about not responding to sanctions as Mueller claimed. Flynn goes right back to discussing the expelled Russians. Exactly what he was talking before that you conveniently cropped out. Why did you crop out the top half of page 10 and not include the context of page 9?

    https://www.grassley.senate.gov/site...scripts%29.pdf
    Kislyak specifically mentioned sanctions. Flynn’s next response is to keep it reciprocal. He then goes on to make the same point about expelling diplomats as an example. But kislyak specifically brought up the sanctions there, separate from the diplomats.

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