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This is correct. It's nothing like he's saying it is and he's lying again to justify wanting to relentlessly spew anti-TP stuff.
What? Please tell me this is blue font. I can't take another Argie saying that someone that post positive things about TP to counteract the negative (especially when he positive aspects being pointed out are accurate) is the same as what Gambiitt does.to be fair, so does gambit a lot of times, but you mock and deride regardless...
that said, I have nothing against player fans, tbh, but watch who you're laughing at and what you're laughing at them for...
This is correct. It's nothing like he's saying it is and he's lying again to justify wanting to relentlessly spew anti-TP stuff.
I didn't know Ruby Rhod played for Orlando??
As expected, an easy win for the Spurs. Bring on All Star Weekend!
GO SPURS GO!!!!!
Every year, the Magic are consistently bad enough to earn a lottery pick, but never bad enough to win a top 3 pick. Outside of 2004 when they got Dwight #1 overall, they always find a way to be just below-average enough to not warrant a 3 top pick. Maybe they'll actually do the right thing and tank the 2nd half of the season enough now and go all-in for the Markelle Fultz sweepstakes.
What does gambit do? He posts his opinion. You didn't post your opinion when you were trashing Patty? Was that negative? Was it worth some mockery and derision too? gambit posts accurate info too sometimes, even though it surely is perceived negatively by TP fans.
That's all I'm saying... I actually don't have a problem with people venting in game threads, tbh... I do it all the time
I mean, I'm just pointing it out. Feel free to continue doing whatcha do.
Nono dropping bombs.
That's all I'm saying... I actually don't have a problem with people venting in game threads, tbh... I do it all the time
I mean, I'm just pointing it out. Feel free to continue doing whatcha do.
This is ridiculous
That's all I'm saying... I actually don't have a problem with people venting in game threads, tbh... I do it all the time
I mean, I'm just pointing it out. Feel free to continue doing whatcha do.
It's not trashing Patty. I wrote plenty of good things about Patty as do many others. I wrote that he ran a terrible break which if you watch again you will see. It's ok to be negative when warranted and when you can back it up. It's not ok to trash a player over and over with mostly lies and even when presented with numbers and video evidence to contradict your position, to still lie and trash a player over and over relentlessly .
Nothing about what I post like is like Gambitt and to reduce it all down to "hey, it's all the same" is crazy. Not surprising though because it's about TP that you would defend a poster like Gambitts
This was accurate a week ago:This is ridiculous
It's not trashing Patty. I wrote plenty of good things about Patty as do many others. I wrote that he ran a terrible break which if you watch again you will see. It's ok to be negative when warranted and when you can back it up. It's not ok to trash a player over and over with mostly lies and even when presented with numbers and video evidence to contradict your position, to still lie and trash a player over and over relentlessly .
Negative? sure. Accurate? absolutely. Is it picking and choosing? you bet.
So is pretty much every opinion, especially on game threads, when you have immediate reactions. DAF pointed out you happen to pick and choose one way (inadvertently or not), gambit picks and chooses a different way.
I don't see how's that not equal. You're far less vocal or annoying (that's my opinion), but hey, I'm not complaining. I think both player-fans, player-haters and team-fans should be vocal (I do not like the team-haters schtick from guys like Bieber though, too played out).
No. It's not equal. What he said there was true. But you are ignoring context and everything else. It he just posted that and used that to frame a singular argument, ok.
But that is not what happens. What he does is obsess and lie do things like say "bench Parkerstarting PG that shoots 2-12
What I do is say something to the degree of "Well, he shot 2-12, but had 12 assists and only 2 TO's, there is value in that". Then I point out when he makes good plays because Gamboot and so many others tie TP's value only to scoring and act like everything he does is bad. I point out (often) many of the good things TP still does and try to explain his value when it's a teachable moment.
I've knocked TP too when he's been bad. But there has been so much hate and so much over the top and constant belaboring of TP that I feel it's necessary in game threads to point out the other aspects of the game and try to teach where I can.
It's wildly different and is not just two dudes sharing a difference of opinion. Im not the yin to his yang
This isn't about gambit, this is about you. I joined a convo you were having with DAF about your picking and choosing (which he gave example of, but you denied). After you were mocking gambit for basically, picking and choosing.
I thought it was pretty ironic and pointed it out, tbh...
Gambit post are all based on opinion and raw stats.
If you get offended when he says parker has shot 1-10 and adds a lmao icon then I dont know what you have been doing in spurstalk.
That is way too common here and part of the spurstalk freedom.
DPG has been semen shielding Porker forever.
It's fine dude.
I think it's pretty clear you have a different opinion of TP than gambit does. Sure, there's teachable moments, for those that are willing to learn. There's also the mocking and derision moments when they don't, I suppose?No. It's not equal. What he said there was true. But you are ignoring context and everything else. It he just posted that and used that to frame a singular argument, ok.
But that is not what happens. What he does is obsess and lie do things like say "bench Parker
What I do is say something to the degree of "Well, he shot 2-12, but had 12 assists and only 2 TO's, there is value in that". Then I point out when he makes good plays because Gamboot and so many others tie TP's value only to scoring and act like everything he does is bad. I point out (often) many of the good things TP still does and try to explain his value when it's a teachable moment.
I've knocked TP too when he's been bad. But there has been so much hate and so much over the top and constant belaboring of TP that I feel it's necessary in game threads to point out the other aspects of the game and try to teach where I can.
It's wildly different and is not just two dudes sharing a difference of opinion. Im not the yin to his yang
I mean, I'm not saying the constant storm is amusing or entertaining (you get used to scroll by certain posts after a while), but goddamn there was no teachable moment for me when it came to Bonner. Sometimes you're just burned out.
I do appreciate the teachable moments, though, you'll be surprised how much I disagree with gambit and FkLA when it comes to Tony, tbh... so by all means, I'm not going to tell you to stop being who you are.
NahNo. It's not equal. What he said there was true. But you are ignoring context and everything else. It he just posted that and used that to frame a singular argument, ok.
But that is not what happens. What he does is obsess and lie do things like say "bench Parker
What I do is say something to the degree of "Well, he shot 2-12, but had 12 assists and only 2 TO's, there is value in that". Then I point out when he makes good plays because Gamboot and so many others tie TP's value only to scoring and act like everything he does is bad. I point out (often) many of the good things TP still does and try to explain his value when it's a teachable moment.
I've knocked TP too when he's been bad. But there has been so much hate and so much over the top and constant belaboring of TP that I feel it's necessary in game threads to point out the other aspects of the game and try to teach where I can.
It's wildly different and is not just two dudes sharing a difference of opinion. Im not the yin to his yang
DPG you keep doing you.
Only guy that sometimes does get on my nerves as much as I respect him is brooklynfan bc he feels it's his duty to correct everybody in a sanctimonious way. Sometimes I have clashed with him bc he's not free of his own favoritisms... though he may pretend not to be... but he clashes with many guys often bc he wants to correct everybody on everything and doesn't let guys vent frustration without having a say about it.
I have learned you have to enjoy a good joke and let guys ride out their schticks. Tony is not perfect TBH, but neither is --- and --- and ... we can bring up any name in the team. Kiwi carries such a burden that criticism for him is almost sacrilegious to me, but it's not like he hasn't had Kawhobe moments where one thought, damn Kawhi that wasn't a good shot. And then there is Kyle passive: I am going to take 3 seconds to think what I want to do but still pass it out... lol Simmons: ok I am going to get in there and get my shot or so help me I will TO and get stripped bc I damn well I am going to get my own moments.
There is Manure with his TO and TOSB sightings, there is... hhmmmm Mills nights where he builds a castle with bricks and gives you bad defense where you say ? 50 mill for this guy F...ck that !
lol there are plenty shticks to go around... Murray.. still too young but his TO are becoming something we can get used to.. as well as the floater that has not a prayer in the world to go in.
Hmmm what else Lamarcus ... /sigh so much to make fun of like him getting blocked by Vince Carter and putting up 4/20 or whatever that was against Memphis.
Pau? I used to call him La Estatua. Dude doesn't move one inch for a rebound that is not within his radius... among other defensive lapses.
Obviously we criticize less the guys we like but if we are honest? Danny Dribble?
Fathead basketball player?
No one is telling dpg to change. We are just pointing out what he does.
That's goodNah
DPG you keep doing you.
Only guy that sometimes does get on my nerves as much as I respect him is brooklynfan bc he feels it's his duty to correct everybody in a sanctimonious way. Sometimes I have clashed with him bc he's not free of his own favoritisms... though he may pretend not to be... but he clashes with many guys often bc he wants to correct everybody on everything and doesn't let guys vent frustration without having a say about it.
I have learned you have to enjoy a good joke and let guys ride out their schticks. Tony is not perfect TBH, but neither is --- and --- and ... we can bring up any name in the team. Kiwi carries such a burden that criticism for him is almost sacrilegious to me, but it's not like he hasn't had Kawhobe moments where one thought, damn Kawhi that wasn't a good shot. And then there is Kyle passive: I am going to take 3 seconds to think what I want to do but still pass it out... lol Simmons: ok I am going to get in there and get my shot or so help me I will TO and get stripped bc I damn well I am going to get my own moments.
There is Manure with his TO and TOSB sightings, there is... hhmmmm Mills nights where he builds a castle with bricks and gives you bad defense where you say ? 50 mill for this guy F...ck that !
lol there are plenty shticks to go around... Murray.. still too young but his TO are becoming something we can get used to.. as well as the floater that has not a prayer in the world to go in.
Hmmm what else Lamarcus ... /sigh so much to make fun of like him getting blocked by Vince Carter and putting up 4/20 or whatever that was against Memphis.
Pau? I used to call him La Estatua. Dude doesn't move one inch for a rebound that is not within his radius... among other defensive lapses.
Obviously we criticize less the guys we like but if we are honest? Danny Dribble?
Danny is starting to get on my nerves too, tbh... not Manu though, he's alright (
Nono - I don't want to go back and forth there is too much. There's no irony and what "I do" and called out Gambite for is nothing alike.
To grab the other thing I said about TP that you said I ignored (TP being unselfish) highlights my point. I may be wrong sometimes but it's not because what I say is blatant lies & trolling.
Just bc the shot ended in a violation and TP should have shot it doesn't mean it was a lie or purposely dishonest. Even Sean on the broadcast said it was unselfish. May have been the wrong play in hindsight but it was an unselfish play to give the better shooter a great shot.
What Gambit does is way different. I may try to counteract all the TP hate (not just Gamboat) but it's about a Analyzing the game and debunking the Patty should start stuff.
That's not what offends me or what I mocked him for. I mocked him for lying about what the broadcasters said then as he was ignored he then resorted to random TP throw away stuff).
Posting raw stats is fine. But relentlessly bashing TP over and over is what is annoying and ruins the forum Especially when it's not even clever.
But like many before him and many after just have to ignore it.
Look, it's fine by me. I said it already: I just pointed it out. Apologies if it came across as finger pointing or something, tbh...
You know what the difference is? When you've already reached a conclusion, and you go out looking for stats that support it. That's just blind player-fan/hater. And this place is drowning in it.
If someone sees a stat or a trend, and then tries to figure out what causes it? Most people will join in that kind of discussion. When the conclusion is ALWAYS that one player sucks, or another player is great? It's always the same damn people hawking the same damn stories. And it's monotonous mind-novocaine.
One cannot dissuade someone from trying to go against a schtick they feel they must debunk. I fell into that in my earliest forum posting but discovered that it only made me annoying to others bc they already had their opinions formed and there's no changing them and It annoyed me to. So I kind of stopped. I now enjoy the jokes... and the occasional interesting discussion. When someone has a stchick as strong as gambit (he's not the only one or the only player about whom it happens) you just understand that's his opinion and it's not going to change and move on. Sometimes he actually does have a point. And DPG is fine. It reminds me of every time you point out some nice play from Simmons. I do the same with Anderson, Nono with Manu... I like others too by the way... and have started diversifying my repertoire. Lol
Lately I just feel less inclined to criticize Manu or Tony. They have aged. Pop has young guys he can play and he's the one who chooses what the team runs and who to play or if they are playing so well you want to ride them out or it's one of those nights that it's better to let the young legs get some run.
You haven't noticed that I point out the same good things when it's Kyle? Or Murray. Or Manu. Or Tony. Or Danny.
As kindly as I can put this - you really aren't the one who should be talking about "shtick". You've refined yours, I'll give you that. You do the martyr thing, about how you always get picked on for talking about Kyle (which always presumes they are wrong about Kyle AND you). Then you do the "I told you so" thing every time he makes a good play. But at least it's a more sophisticated shtick than the Tony-haters, and there's only one of you. And unlike them, you do talk about other things.
Go back in this thread a few pages. Kyle made a good play, and you had to get in the jab about how I said he needed to put on muscle. As if that one play proved that he's really fine the way he is. (He isn't, and he does need to get stronger.) You know a lot more about basketball than you get credit for around here, because you're so single-minded. Still.
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