#freeforbes?

[midnightpulp]

He is the reason we went 7 games, mid. He had a completely favorable matchup and he didn't make them pay until game 7.

Up to this day, I do honestly think he was hurt. It's the only reason he wouldn't be out there in the clutch either. I also said Patty sucked too, and I love Patty, and he did great in series later down the road, but that's the honest truth.

Just like Manu was MIA against Portland, huge against OKC and the Finals...

You act like Calderon is some off the street. He was about a 10ppg career scorer on 47% shooting and 40% shooting from 3. Chris Paul only averages about 17 per against him and his teams. The greatest scoring PG we've ever seen (Westbrook) only averages 23 per against him. Not sure what more you wanted out of a 31 year old Parker against a Rick Carlisle coached team?

[ElNono]

You act like Calderon is some off the street. He was about a 10ppg career scorer on 47% shooting and 40% shooting from 3. Chris Paul only averages about 17 per against him and his teams. The greatest scoring PG we've ever seen (Westbrook) only averages 23 per against him. Not sure what more you wanted out of a 31 year old Parker against a Rick Carlisle coached team?

Now we're getting somewhere. Carlisle is good, we can agree on that. They were an #8 seed though, not magically. And Calderon is trash, sorry. Heck Rubio is all hype too.

[midnightpulp]

Now we're getting somewhere. Carlisle is good, we can agree on that. They were an #8 seed though, not magically. And Calderon is trash, sorry. Heck Rubio is all hype too.

He's not trash. He's an average NBA PG (in his prime) with a good 3 point shot. Tony doubled him in PPG. Trash is Marcelo Huertas. Not sure what more you want.

[ElNono]

He's not trash. He's an average NBA PG (in his prime) with a good 3 point shot. Tony doubled him in PPG. Trash is Marcelo Huertas. Not sure what more you want.

Tony was our best player, against an 'average PG'... that's a favorable matchup, right? Coming out of the 2013 Finals, you take Calderon or Parker? I mean, I take Tony hands down. That's why I'm saying, he had to be hurt.

[gambit1990]

mid getting destroyed.

[ElNono]

mid getting destroyed.

don't start this ... mid and I go way back, tbh... he knows

[gambit1990]

don't start this ... mid and I go way back, tbh... he knows

what, way back he was telling you that parker would be important this year?

[ElNono]

Way back when we were trolling Lakerfan together, tbh...

I can troll about Tony, but this isn't about Manu fanboi, etc...

And you need a new schtick gambit... you're getting to Avante levels without the pedo angle, IMO...

[gambit1990]

And you need a new schtick gambit... you're getting to Avante levels without the pedo angle, IMO...

parker is the weakest link.

i appreciate what he's done for the franchise. i wish him the best success with an eastern conference team.

[gambit1990]

and it's not even schtick.

[midnightpulp]

Tony was our best player, against an 'average PG'... that's a favorable matchup, right? Coming out of the 2013 Finals, you take Calderon or Parker? I mean, I take Tony hands down. That's why I'm saying, he had to be hurt.

He doubled him up in PPG. Other elite PGs don't average much more against him. What more do you want?

[midnightpulp]

parker is the weakest link.

i appreciate what he's done for the franchise. i wish him the best success with an eastern conference team.

I told your re ed ass that I'd be in favor of Murray/Forbes ( your boy Patty, too. Garbage). But guess what? Ain't happening. So stop whining about roster decisions you have zero control over and just live with it. Parker/Patty it is.

[gambit1990]

So stop whining about roster decisions you have zero control over and just live with it. Parker/Patty it is.

[midnightpulp]

Still whining, I see.

[gambit1990]

Still whining, I see.

nope. you're just too stupid to interpret what're reading.

[midnightpulp]

nope. you're just too stupid to interpret what're reading.

No. You're whining.

I don't think you do anything else on here but whine about Parker.

[apalisoc_9]

Calderon was getting bounced by teams in 14. He was far from an average PG.

[gambit1990]

No. You're whining.

I don't think you do anything else on here but whine about Parker.

Once again, like a poker player committed to a pot, we're priced in on him and just have to hope he holds up like a pair of Aces facing a draw heavy board.

[midnightpulp]

Calderon was getting bounced by teams in 14. He was far from an average PG.

He's an average PG by every metric known to man.

[midnightpulp]

*whining*

Yeah dip . I'm a team fan. I root for players to do well. Especially when there's no chance of a rotation change.

Oh, the aces thing. Does your tiny brain understand what draw heavy means?

[apalisoc_9]

He's an average PG by every metric known to man.

Metrics are stupid sometimes. He was average because what of all the other ty bench and third pgs.

Calderon wasbthe worst starting pg in the playoffs.

[midnightpulp]

Metrics are stupid sometimes. He was average because what of all the other ty bench and third pgs.

Calderon wasbthe worst starting pg in the playoffs.

I'd actually kill for this production from one our PGs.



Trash is the main PG rotation on the Spurs, or Marcelo Huertas. Calderon has always been serviceable.

[ElNono]

He doubled him up in PPG. Other elite PGs don't average much more against him. What more do you want?

Meh, if Kawhi 'doubles up' Matt Barnes in PPG, how do you feel about it? Either Matt Barnes turned 'elite' or Kawhi crapped the bed, tbh...

[SAGirl]

This is all old history TBH.
the league is about what have you done for me lately.
He's not adding much to the team right now, unfortunately others aren't either. It sucks.

I suppose one has to hope the team is just chilling and not with a sense of urgency and what we are seeing is not representative of the real potential of this team.

Just end of the season rest schticks and doldrums... hopefully.

[midnightpulp]

Meh, if Kawhi 'doubles up' Matt Barnes in PPG, how do you feel about it? Either Matt Barnes turned 'elite' or Kawhi crapped the bed, tbh...

Calderon is/was a better scorer than Matt Barnes. All Kawhi has to do to double up Barnes is score like 15. Tony has to score 20, which has always been Tony's scoring range (18-21ish ppg). Kawhi also wasn't the reason the Spurs lost (he's not totally blameless). Parker had an all-time historically bad series.