what a vanilla cliche take. Surprised he didn't throw "system" in there
You can always tell which casuals bother watching the Spurs.... help
Just look at this surrounding cast. Lebron would've fired the coach, GM, and players on the spot. That 2007 Cavs team might actually have more depth than this squad now that Tony is out.....
Rocketfan should stick to the Chinese Basketball Association, tbh.
If Danny Green can pass Harden for layups, Murray will have all he can eat. Murray made his living in the paint and on the line in college. The only thing that could possibly save Harden is the refs swallowing the whistle. I just don't see Harden being able to keep up with a shifty ball handler like Murray. The best result would have to be Beverley on Murray to pressure the rookie into mistakes.Parker has been great for them in the playoffs this year. He's easily been their 2nd best player after Leonard, and his injury tremendously improves our chances of winning.
Plus, when Parker missed games in the regular season, Popovich preferred to start Murray and keep Mills in the second unit. If he continues doing that, we can have Beverley guard Danny Green and hide Harden on Murray.
It's all propaganda. The NBA hates the rockets and is out to get them.
If the Rockets choke this series after we
Lose Parker
Still it would be anhuge miracle if Kawhi can pull it off
But
The issue with Murray is that he can't finish for right now. Even if he gets passed Harden, it may just be for a crappy floater.
Agreed. I don't know why people are refusing to see the issues Murray has had finishing. Far to reliant on the floater that isn't even a good floater.
I'm not knocking Murray, but people act like he's TP with regards to finishing and he's literally at the opposite end of that spectrum right now.
Plus his jumpshot is broken..only thing murray has over parker is height and athleticism
That is the thing... Danny Green was able to put it off the glass. If he can, then certainly Murray can get there quick enough to lay it in instead of opting for a floater.
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Maybe i'm just a hater? That's all i'm called now for ever questioning "the most athletic and skilled era ever." Who knows. Maybe guys of the past spoiled me with their highly aesthetic games over guys like LeBron, Westbrook, or Kawhi. It's almost like watching football players playing basketball. There's zero grace now other than probably Curry.
Kawhi is awesome though. But, if he's a top 5 player in your league, something is wrong with the talent pool. More than any other years, the past few NBA seasons has taught me that stats are really only a reflection of the overall quality of your compe ion.
Maybe i'm just like that episode of South Park where everyone keeps spewing literal **** out of their mouth because I just hate everything now. But, I don't think so. I feel like it's SO OBVIOUS when you watch some players of the past and see just how fundamentally sound(other than shooting) players used to be. I guess ball handling has improved especially from the Iverson/Kobe era of cupping the ball illegally? I still prefer in the box handles like Isiah Thomas and Tim Hardaway over outside. I feel like they just dance to get no where. Curry and irving of course being the exceptions.
I mean FFS....40 year old Michael Jordan looks like he could put up 30 on today's league while playing elite D.
Who has the grace and footwork of even a 40 year old MJ? This is who Kawhi was supposed to be studying his game from. Pop has had him studying older MJ, but Kawhi looks like a robot in comparison.
Smfh
DaDakota. Do they really constantly bash the refs there at clutchfans? I was reading their game thread on game 2 and it was literally every shot was a foul or a bad call. If it is, then why?
Lol. This guy has to be re ed.?
Maybe i'm just a hater? That's all i'm called now for ever questioning "the most athletic and skilled era ever." Who knows. Maybe guys of the past spoiled me with their highly aesthetic games over guys like LeBron, Westbrook, or Kawhi. It's almost like watching football players playing basketball. There's zero grace now other than probably Curry.
Kawhi is awesome though. But, if he's a top 5 player in your league, something is wrong with the talent pool. More than any other years, the past few NBA seasons has taught me that stats are really only a reflection of the overall quality of your compe ion.
Maybe i'm just like that episode of South Park where everyone keeps spewing literal **** out of their mouth because I just hate everything now. But, I don't think so. I feel like it's SO OBVIOUS when you watch some players of the past and see just how fundamentally sound(other than shooting) players used to be. I guess ball handling has improved especially from the Iverson/Kobe era of cupping the ball illegally? I still prefer in the box handles like Isiah Thomas and Tim Hardaway over outside. I feel like they just dance to get no where. Curry and irving of course being the exceptions.
I mean FFS....40 year old Michael Jordan looks like he could put up 30 on today's league while playing elite D.
Who has the grace and footwork of even a 40 year old MJ? This is who Kawhi was supposed to be studying his game from. Pop has had him studying older MJ, but Kawhi looks like a robot in comparison.
Smfh
Murray has had trouble finishing his whole career. As much as Danny rightfully gets for his handle, he's had decent years inside the paint. Harden would be DeJounte's best bet for scoring, but he should not think it'll be easy for him.
We really haven't seen him do that.
I think he's focused on developing his playmaking.
He has passing talent but when he came into the league tended to look for his shots all the time, but I have seen him looking to dish a lot more.
He has problems right now with contact bc he's so light. He can be pushed off balance just by a guy to his side... etc.
hmmm to add to this though, Harden loses guys off the ball so much, that if Dijon was active, he will get easy shots. There is no doubt in my mind and he can draw fouls bc he's so quick, you won't recover to him once he has gone past you. Where he settles for the floater is when the shotblocker comes in... but he has been dishing to the big a lot more. He has some counters...
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to be fair, that is a very short career lol
Anderson also gets shat on here a lot too and yet he's finishing at a great rate... his shot selection is good too. He just doesn't get enough chances at this point.
ah well...
I meant college too.
It's still a very short career bc he only did college one season and that is something like 30 something games or less? You can add dleague on to that. (the expression his "whole career" would imply there is a lot to look at)
He does have issues bc he's not strong enough... but he can blow past someone and draw the shot blocker I think for now they have wanted him to dish to the big etc... my observation.
With Dijon not playing.. this becomes a moot discussion though. Let's hope for the best by Mills and others.
Clutchfans have their own nostalgia-back in my day-old s.... thought it was only us?
Maybe i'm just a hater? That's all i'm called now for ever questioning "the most athletic and skilled era ever." Who knows. Maybe guys of the past spoiled me with their highly aesthetic games over guys like LeBron, Westbrook, or Kawhi. It's almost like watching football players playing basketball. There's zero grace now other than probably Curry.
Kawhi is awesome though. But, if he's a top 5 player in your league, something is wrong with the talent pool. More than any other years, the past few NBA seasons has taught me that stats are really only a reflection of the overall quality of your compe ion.
Maybe i'm just like that episode of South Park where everyone keeps spewing literal **** out of their mouth because I just hate everything now. But, I don't think so. I feel like it's SO OBVIOUS when you watch some players of the past and see just how fundamentally sound(other than shooting) players used to be. I guess ball handling has improved especially from the Iverson/Kobe era of cupping the ball illegally? I still prefer in the box handles like Isiah Thomas and Tim Hardaway over outside. I feel like they just dance to get no where. Curry and irving of course being the exceptions.
I mean FFS....40 year old Michael Jordan looks like he could put up 30 on today's league while playing elite D.
Who has the grace and footwork of even a 40 year old MJ? This is who Kawhi was supposed to be studying his game from. Pop has had him studying older MJ, but Kawhi looks like a robot in comparison.
Smfh
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Maybe i'm just a hater? That's all i'm called now for ever questioning "the most athletic and skilled era ever." Who knows. Maybe guys of the past spoiled me with their highly aesthetic games over guys like LeBron, Westbrook, or Kawhi. It's almost like watching football players playing basketball. There's zero grace now other than probably Curry.
Kawhi is awesome though. But, if he's a top 5 player in your league, something is wrong with the talent pool. More than any other years, the past few NBA seasons has taught me that stats are really only a reflection of the overall quality of your compe ion.
Maybe i'm just like that episode of South Park where everyone keeps spewing literal **** out of their mouth because I just hate everything now. But, I don't think so. I feel like it's SO OBVIOUS when you watch some players of the past and see just how fundamentally sound(other than shooting) players used to be. I guess ball handling has improved especially from the Iverson/Kobe era of cupping the ball illegally? I still prefer in the box handles like Isiah Thomas and Tim Hardaway over outside. I feel like they just dance to get no where. Curry and irving of course being the exceptions.
I mean FFS....40 year old Michael Jordan looks like he could put up 30 on today's league while playing elite D.
Who has the grace and footwork of even a 40 year old MJ? This is who Kawhi was supposed to be studying his game from. Pop has had him studying older MJ, but Kawhi looks like a robot in comparison.
Smfh
Basically the clitchfan version of Reck
Danny didn't make contested lay-ups in Game 2, dude. They were wide open lay-ups that you or I could make. If Danny and his handles can get around Harden' s ty D why would DJ struggle to do the same?
I thought we had some pretty ridiculous homerism/re ism going on here, but I really think Clutchfans is on a whole different level
They're so sensitive. Really wanted to troll that site with Westbrook MVP..I thought we had some pretty ridiculous homerism/re ism going on here, but I really think Clutchfans is on a whole different level
Danny's historically a 60-percent shooter at the rim. Not perfect, but way better than Murray.
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