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    Never argued it wasn't the motive. The argument was that it was not an effective driver of innovation.

    You don't even know what my argument was, so off.
    You're all over the place. There is either innovation or there isn't. Since there is, and the only driver is profit, then it's effective. I challenged you to provide a more effective motivator but you cannot - even now.

    You didn't stop there. You said it disincentivizes development, meaning the fear of profit keeps companies away from development. That's just stupid. While it might be true that development is overly dependant on profit driven endeavors and it would be nice if people just gave their time for the sake of mankind without any such motive, it's not reality. Perhaps in your line of work reality isn't that important.

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    You're all over the place. There is either innovation or there isn't. Since there is, and the only driver is profit, then it's effective. I challenged you to provide a more effective motivator but you cannot - even now.

    You didn't stop there. You said it disincentivizes development, meaning the fear of profit keeps companies away from development. That's just stupid. While it might be true that development is overly dependant on profit driven endeavors and it would be nice if people just gave their time for the sake of mankind without any such motive, it's not reality. Perhaps in your line of work reality isn't that important.
    Again, the profit motive incentivises evergreening at the expense of new product development. I can't help you anymore if you don't understand this basic argument.

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    If I cared enough I'd go find the original post with "the chart".

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    Again, the profit motive incentivises evergreening at the expense of new product development. I can't help you anymore if you don't understand this basic argument.
    Evergreening is more profitable right now for companies with large portfolios. However for universities and biotech, novelty introductions are still more profitable. Both are profit motives.

    It's like saying the taste of unhealthy food causes people to choose it over more healthy dishes, at the expense of their health, therefore taste disincentivizes eating healthy. See how silly that sounds, since people eat healthy for reasons other than taste? What other reasons do companies have to develop products other than profit?

    Let's say Merck develops a cure for Ebola tonight. What are the long term implications for Merck if they give it away to 3rd world countries? What are the implications for those countries? So they no longer have fear of Ebola outbreak, do they not have richer, more fulfilling lives? Do they start farming and raising cattle and stop butchering each other? Probably not. For Merck, do they go into a financial crisis over it since it's all given away? What other drug developments are put on hold to fund it?

    This doesn't happen in a vacuum. Your " money" answer doesn't work in reality, with adults.

    If I cared enough I'd go find the original post with "the chart".
    You just cared enough to bring it up half a dozen times, and yet again.

    playing the "don't care" card after two pages of caring.

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    Evergreening is more profitable right now for companies with large portfolios.
    So if companies are spending money to evergreen existing products they're not spending it on new product development. Thanks for proving my point.

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    So if companies are spending money to evergreen existing products they're not spending it on new product development. Thanks for proving my point.
    If they are buying lunch for their employees, they aren't spending that money on new product development. Free lunch disincentivizes new drug discovery.

    If evergreening makes more money, you cannot consider it a net negative where funding is concerned for either evergreening or new product development. Cost vs reward is higher for evergreening, meaning the more they put into it the more they get out of it, and yet somehow new product development still gets funded. How would it be funded otherwise once the low hanging fruit are picked? Taxpayers... err... I mean... government money? Show me a socialist en y spending all their money on new product development and actually developing new products, we can discuss it.

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    why would bigpharma and biotech release a cure if that disease is a money making Ponzi scheme for them?

    even if there is a cure, some big company would come by give you a offer u cant refuse, so they buy you out and wont release the cure to continue milking the industry...

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    No, they are. "They" being the bulk of the voters, not the activist social media s you likely associate with. You just don't realize it yet because you're naive, probably never been very far outside of Dallas and likely married young and are the subservient one in the relationship.
    det apathy


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    If Ossoff doesn't win I hope they find the reason was that he turned people off by spamming their email inboxes a dozen times a day.

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    det apathy

    you have no idea how to read those models.

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    you have no idea how to read those models.
    DMC getting raped. Day 3.

    I bet you think the red means leading. Cuck Jr.

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    DMC getting raped. Day 3.

    I bet you think the red means leading. Cuck Jr.
    You already had one premature ejaculation with Hillary. You might want to sit this one out, Wizard.

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    You already had one premature ejaculation with Hillary. You might want to sit this one out, Wizard.
    What do you think calling me a Hillary supporter accomplishes? Besides making you look like a got who cant even come up with witty attacks.

    Hey you're a wizard. Hillary supporter.

    What a moron.

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    What do you think calling me a Hillary supporter accomplishes? Besides making you look like a got who cant even come up with witty attacks.

    Hey you're a wizard. Hillary supporter.

    What a moron.
    Bro, stop pumping yourself up. Pennsylvania is not a player.
    Obama did the same thing in the closing days.

    Michigan or Pennsylvania aren't teh states she should be nervous of. It's places like New Hampshire and maybe Colorado.

    In fact, Hillary's campaign is going to wrap up their campaign in places where she will win with certainty.
    How Clinton lost 'blue wall' states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/poli...nsin/93572020/
    That's called protecting your firewall. Her average lead there is almost 5 points.

    Oh and she just went up in Florida again. RCP has her average at 1.5 after being down the whole of this week.
    Trump wins Florida, a crucial victory




    Quick, do some more of your election prophecies!

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    Quick, do some more of your election prophecies!


    Tbh my gut tells me the Dems should win GA-6 since it isn't a very Trump friendly district but the more Reck predicts victory the more I think the GOP will win given his track record.

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    How Clinton lost 'blue wall' states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin

    http://www.freep.com/story/news/poli...nsin/93572020/

    Trump wins Florida, a crucial victory




    Quick, do some more of your election prophecies!
    Holy I got you doing searching on me. Rent free got.

    That still doesn't accomplish anything. It makes you look petty and re ed.

    Now go look up more posts I've made in the past to proof just how much I'm not in your head.

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    Tbh my gut tells me the Dems should win GA-6 since it isn't a very Trump friendly district
    republicans have held that seat since 2002

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    Holy I got you doing searching on me. Rent free got.

    That still doesn't accomplish anything. It makes you look petty and re ed.

    Now go look up more posts I've made in the past to proof just how much I'm not in your head.
    follows me around interjecting
    says he's in my head
    maybe I am imagining it

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    follows me around interjecting
    says he's in my head
    maybe I am imagining it
    hey fat ass, you just spent 30 minutes researching me. work that math out you creepy old .

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    republicans have held that seat since 2002
    Trump only won that district by a point or so. If Dems can't pick off that seat with all they are throwing at it then 2018 is looking bleak for them.

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    hey fat ass, you just spent 30 minutes researching me. work that math out you creepy old .
    Why would it take 30 minutes to look up a few of your Hillary loving posts?

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    Trump only won that district by a point or so. If Dems can't pick off that seat with all they are throwing at it then 2018 is looking bleak for them.
    We're throwing just as much (if not more). If we cannot hold this then we're white bread.

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    Why would it take 30 minutes to look up a few of your Hillary loving posts?
    Not to mention my prior post was like 10 minutes earlier. Shadowflaming got.

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    Why would it take 30 minutes to look up a few of your Hillary loving posts?
    You always ask stupid questions.

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