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I really think white and Murray should be our backcourt. They compliment each other and could be a good defensive tandem. Derozan can play small forward.
Worst case DJ has a very successful YouTube page to fall back on
I really think white and Murray should be our backcourt. They compliment each other and could be a good defensive tandem. Derozan can play small forward.
I believe the Spurs will have that trio playing together a lot.
Most of the players have limited NBA minutes.
Worst case DJ has a very successful YouTube page to fall back on
Looks like he made the Team USA World Cup qualifying team!
https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/...m-13224435.php
It's a team of d-league scrubs and borderline NBAers. It would only be news if he didn't make it.
But it should be great experience. I am sure Pop had a say in White being there. Looks like he might be the leader of that team.
White as not earned a rotation spot over Forbe's.
It's a bit of a concern, given that White is apparently still acting like an out-of-rotation d-leaguer.
If Forbes is ahead of White on the rotation to start the season, I'm gonna lose my .
White is so much better then Forbes not even close.
Forbes is a specialist. People complaining about his 1st year of real playing time are too harsh. Nobody shot well last year. Forbes still lead the team in 3 pt %. He is a good weapon to have incase pf injury/matchups.
How is he acting like so?
I'm not talking about his personality or anything. USANT is now filled with d-leaguers outside of Olympic years. The release said White was one of only nine guys who played any NBA minutes to be on the team. Hopefully, White is a solid NBA rotation player by the time that tourney rolls around and not in the class of the rest of the team. It would be like confirming right now that White will play in next year's summer league or something.
Who cares what the perception is? He is on his rookie contract either way and this is a great way to develop as a player during the offseasons. This may be a way to get a foot in the door for any scrimmages and practices against the Olympic teams. Things like that must work wonders for players confidence. I remember Kawhi was a surprise standout for the 2012 Olympic practice team squad. I would hate for him to pass up opportunities like this because of perception or pride. That's how USA lost world and then the Olympics in 2002 and 2004 as well. I'm sure Pop convinced him of the positives for him.
It's not about how the average fan views him. It's how Pop views him. White's not a d-leaguer. He shouldn't be on this squad anymore than say Bryn Forbes should.
Pop is the head coach for both national team and spurs, I'm sure he approves of this. If I had to guess Pop would respond to you by saying why is this event only for DLeaguers?
Like I mentioned before it's a bad precedent to think players are too good for national team qualifying events. Hence what happened in 02 and 04.
Why do you think White was even trying out for the team rather than the main players? Why do you think the last tourney was played by all guys without NBA contracts? Why do you think Van Gundy is coaching rather than Pop? Whether you want to say it's because they're "too good" or because the NBA and FIBA have changed the standards for who plays in international ball. The answer is the same.
Lol. Derrick White hasn't even played a full season of NBA basketball yet you think he deserves a shot at the actual world cup qualifying team? Yes, the perception what you say might be true for NBA players but that is not the case for coaches. If your Van Gundy do you not get excited about a guy like Derrick White coming in to want to play for the National Team. Its partly about building a program up, starts at every level. You are the one questioning guys wanting to step up and play for their nation? Derrick White should be an example for both players and coach's perceptions.
If you remember, Popovich has always encouraged his players to do national activities in the offseason, especially the young ones. It's a much safer way of staying in shape and staying in rhythm for the regular season.
Let's not glare over the fact that Van Gundy is a high level NBA coach. If they were not taking the qualifiers seriously, I doubt they choose Van Gundy as the coach either.
Last edited by SpursDynasty85; 09-13-2018 at 07:56 PM.
, man. It's not about "wanting to" play for the national team or being too good. There are plenty of guys below the first tier of players who would probably be happy playing for the USANT. But are they on the team? No. Why? It's not because of they would get a negative perception, like you keep trying to make this. We aren't hearing about Murray playing or any of the top rookies. Is it because none of them are patriotic? Or because Pop and Van Gundy wouldn't want them? No. It's disturbing that you think all the stars just decided to not play at the same time.
Ok. First off you were the one questioning Pop's perception of Derrick White. It's not far fetched that a lot of NBA players might've passed up on this qualifying tournament. It's sort of been a theme to pass up on the Olympics and the World Cup tournaments in the past let alone the qualifying events. It may have historically been of lesser talent but this is Pop's first year as the head coach and leader of USA basketball. Is it a coincidence that Derrick White and Van Gundy are about to team up together this year? Probably not.
I look at all this as a positive for Derrick White. Pop thinks so highly of Derrick he decided to put Derrick in a position to be a leader of a Van Gundy coached team for the pride of a country.
With your original remark it may as well have been interpreted as "Pop thinks Derrick White sucks".
To the bolded part, no. It hasn't been a theme since the Dream Team. In the last World Cup, Harden, Davis, Cousins and the Splash Bros all played. It wasn't the full A-Team, but you definitely had All-Stars. Four years earlier, you had Durant, Curry, Westbrook, Love, Iggy and others. Had there not been a concerted effort to change the makeup of the team, you would have seen a smattering of All-Stars and lesser stars. Anyway, this is Pop's second year as the coach. Van Gundy coached a team of d-leaguers to the Americas championship last season. That tourney was played in the middle of the NBA year. That was not an accident; it was part of a joint decision to limit the USA's natural advantage over the rest of the world, while also reducing the pressure for international NBA players to play for their teams every summer.
I don't have anything against White getting time. I wish it would happen earlier as to give him time to rest before camp, but he's certainly still young enough. I don't like the idea of White being seen in the same light as an expendable d-leaguer. This is the squad:I look at all this as a positive for Derrick White. Pop thinks so highly of Derrick he decided to put Derrick in a position to be a leader of a Van Gundy coached team for the pride of a country.
With your original remark it may as well have been interpreted as "Pop thinks Derrick White sucks".
https://www.nba.com/bucks/news/usa-m...eptember-gamesThe USA roster is capped by Bryce Alford (Oklahoma City Blue); Dwayne Bacon (Charlotte Hornets); Henry Ellenson (Detroit Pistons); Reggie Hearn (Grand Rapids Drive); Isaiah Hicks (New York Knicks); Dakari Johnson (Free Agent); Frank Mason III (Sacramento Kings); Ben Moore (Fort Wayne Mad Ants); Chasson Randle (Capital City Go-Go); Travis Trice (Milwaukee Bucks); Jameel Warney (Texas Legends); and Derrick White (San Antonio Spurs).
White could easily be in the top half of the rotation in total minutes played next season. My concern is that Pop doesn't see it that way and considers him a fringe rotation guy like pretty much everyone else on that list. For me, White joining the squad gives me a reason to watch those games next year. That's not the problem. Him not playing next season and having to watch Forbes run the point is.
Interesting. Cool info. I agree that this isn't too taxing for a 25 year old. If you expected Derrick White to play starter minutes in the beginning of the season, I'd say that was pretty ambitious. The log jam at the gaurd position for the Spurs is pretty obvious especially once they resigned Belli. Of Pop wants to field the best team possible, White was going to have to clearly out play DJ, Mills, and Belli which isn't impossible but unlikely during White's second year. Nobody on the Spurs play anywhere near 40 mpg anymore. Most 25 year olds wish they could play those 40 mpg. For White anything near 20 mpg for the Spurs should be considered a win imo. As he, Walker, and DJ grow Belli and Mill should be fazed out over the next 3 years. Sooner the better but unlikely in year 1.
It’s good for White he gets to bond with Pop and gets to play against against good compe ors.
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