thank god.
happy he didn't come here. happy lebron doesn't have to deal with him anymore.
agreed. for what we would have had to have given up to get irving, if cleveland had taken the bait, his acquisition wouldn't have made us into any more of a contender. if anything, it would have injured our options for the summers of 2018 and/or '19.
Anyone saying IT>KI is just plain stupid. Irving is a greater scorer, bigger, and better defender (when he wants to) than Thomas.
Still not enough to overcome Lebron though. Lebrons D is going to nullify Kyries production. I can see Lebron staying in Cleveland now just to with Kyrie.
I don't know man, I feel like Aldrdige is gone next summer anyways and even if he plays well enough to bump up his trade value I still doubt the Spurs could get anyone as good as Irving in trade. It's moot since the Spurs had no way of matching the Celtics offer, but I would have loved having a 25 year old Irving to build around. The cupboard looks pretty bare other than Kawhi for this team's future, and I don't see any way outside of pretty serious injury that Golden State falls in the next couple of years anyways. Buford reloaded masterfully around Duncan, but that required some huge luck in Boston and Toronto passing on Parker in the draft and then the team winning the lottery when the nobody they drafted out of Argentina turned into a HOF level player within 3 years at Kinder Bologna. As good as Buford is, there was a lot of luck helping that early 2000s rebuild along. The Irving trade request felt like it could have been another stroke of luck for the late 2010s rebuild.
I agree. But it seems like the FO stubbornness and "loyalty" has added an extra level of difficulty to building around Leonard.
It's that same "loyalty" that you mention that kept guys like TD from going to Orlando, Manu going to Denver, TP going to NY, etc...It works both ways.
I don't believe that.
and IMO, paying Parker 16,000,000 per year is loyalty enough. They shouldn't feel obligated to not ever trade him.
At some point, you have to cut bait and think about the future.
Nobody thought we were going to be as good as we were last year and last time we made a big splash we got LMA and we still got him. This place is like a broken record
The only re is you. Guy who works hard every night, or bum who doesnt?
that's looking too far ahead and too speculative for me to really conjecture on. i know the SOP in ST is to take the cynical view but i still think the spurs have options, especially if LMA opts out this summer (which i hope he does for cap reasons).
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I think you have to look a couple of years ahead when Golden State has the le on lockdown for another couple of years while they have Thompson and Green on cap friendly contracts. The only player out there that could have given the Spurs a real chance at the Warriors would have been Paul. Once that blew up I don't think the Spurs should have been trying to win now. I'm not confident about 2018 free agency when George looks LA bound and Westbrook probably too. I guess I'd take a desperation shot at Cousins and hope for the best.
I won't say Thomas is better than Irving. In terms of scoring, I definitely believe he's more efficient.
That said, I don't think Thomas will have as many big fourth quarters with Cleveland playing with LeBron. In Boston, he was the go to guy in the final period and he excelled at it.
Well having Thomas is better than having a player become a huge problem by not showing up to training camp. It was a fair deal for the Cavs, Irving will be missed what he brought for that team but he didn't want to be a Cavalier no more. The Cavs also might get Wade if Bulls buy him out, if everyone stays healthy they have a good shot at getting back to the Finals.Despite those pleas, McMenamin reported thoughts of keeping him "became unrealistic" because Irving informed Cavaliers brass "that he would rather not report to training camp than begin another season with Cleveland."
TP is a 7 time AS and a 2 time All NBA player, and has never made $20M for a season. Cutting bait, as you so flippantly put it, sends a signal that loyalty no longer flows from PATFO, and players will no longer take discounts like Parker has for his whole career. He never made his NBA max for any year of his career.
He was underpaid for some years and has been overpaid for others. It's evened out and he's been paid an average salary over the years commensurate with his production.
I got no complaints overall.
Who gives a about big 4th qtrs?
I'm sure sure the Celtics and their fans did when Thomas delivered in clutch situations many times last season.
It got screwed. I hope free agents remember this. Hopefully next off season we can show our loyalty.
What does $20M have to do anything? For most of his career, only a few players made that per year. And only until the last couple of years has it been around 10 players that made that. They paid him his money. He's getting $16 M per year. That's all the loyalty they owe him. Keeping him on the roster when they could have traded him is going overboard.
spurs be lucky to get another point guard that makes the allstar 7 times like tp
I agree.
Where is the proof he did?
barry a spurs hater stating it does not make it so
Please. We aren't kids anymore.
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