Stupid People like this are as big a danger to this country as any racist

**DarrinS** · 08-20-2017

Again, attacking me is not a defense. So, go ahead and tell me where that plane was. What's that, you can't?

See vid above for more.

It was aliens, tbh.

**Spurtacular** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

I'm actually making fun of you. There is quite an extensive engineering report covering the collapse of WTC7. Anyone who has researched 9/11 should know that.

You haven't looked up arguments about how the jets caused the steel buildings to fall.

In all your years of research, you still think they say jet fuel melted the steel.

You haven't said how 9/11 defied all history with the collapse of those towers. It's not like I haven't given you the opportunity, over and over. At this point, I'd have to believe you don't have an answer. Given that, it makes sense that you would try to hinge victory on attacking me, even if that is ultimately illogical.

**Spurtacular** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

The Pentagon attack was weird too, there is an old guy dying that said he was part of the implosion work, this is the article

http://www.disclose.tv/news/we_blew_...eathbed/139692

Its was planned in 1997 he says and I find that credible in the sense that USA needed an enemy to get all the goodies from Saddam, just like if USA invades Venezuela they will free people from that dictator but at the same time they will keep the petroleoum.
Business.

Yea, I saw that, too, some months back. The media didn't bother to cover it. The last thing they want to do is tell the truth.

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

A bomb, probably.

A bomb probably from where?

Certainly wasn't a plane though. Or do you think the plane just incinerated?

I think the lighter parts of plane like the wings partially desintegrated against the reinforced outer walls and the fuselage punched through the rings of the building, breaking up along the way and leaving debris throughout.

If you think there was no plane, what happened to the 65 people said to be on the plane?

**Mikeanaro** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Did humanity ever see jumbo jets fly into skyscrapers at 500+ mph?

Yes, crashing and they never made a 541 meter crater yet because of the fire.

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

You haven't said how 9/11 defied all history with the collapse of those towers. It's not like I haven't given you the opportunity, over and over. At this point, I'd have to believe you don't have an answer. Given that, it makes sense that you would try to hinge victory on attacking me, even if that is ultimately illogical.

Here's what is happening.

1) You don't know the basics of the government collapse theory.

2) You are demanding I tell you the basics of the government theory of collapse.

3) I did a test run an hour ago to see how long it might take a reasonable person to look up the government theory of collapse. It took under five minutes.

4) I told you to look it up.

5) You did not look it up.

**Spurtacular** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

A bomb probably from where?I think the lighter parts of plane like the wings partially desintegrated against the reinforced outer walls and the fuselage punched through the rings of the building, breaking up along the way and leaving debris throughout.

If you think there was no plane, what happened to the 65 people said to be on the plane?

No signs of a plane, whatsoever. I don't know what happened to the 65 people. I suspect they were either made up or executed. Certainly, the one woman whispered "it's a frame" at the end of her call. But as long as we're talking about this, tell me why cell phones suddenly started working at 30,000 feet up when that was a near scientific impossibility for the technology of the time?

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

Yes, crashing and they never made a 541 meter crater yet because of the fire.

You need to explain what you mean here. truthers are always jumping from one topic to another when they hit a dead end. You're the one jumping, so be specific about where you're jumping.

**Spurtacular** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Here's what is happening.

1) You don't know the basics of the government collapse theory.

2) You are demanding I tell you the basics of the government theory of collapse.

3) I did a test run an hour ago to see how long it might take a reasonable person to look up the government theory of collapse. It took under five minutes.

4) I told you to look it up.

5) You did not look it up.

Bla, bla. How did the towers collapse?

**DarrinS** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Bla, bla. How did the towers collapse?

Structural failure

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

No signs of a plane, whatsoever.

Threre were signs of a plane all over the ground outside the Pentagon right after impact. Surely you have seen the pictures in all your years of research.

I don't know what happened to the 65 people. I suspect they were either made up or executed.

Where did the 757 go?

Certainly, the one woman whispered "it's a frame" at the end of her call.

I'm going to call bull on that one. You need to provide a link for something like that.

But as long as we're talking about this, tell me why cell phones suddenly started working at 30,000 feet up when that was a near scientific impossibility for the technology of the time?

Hey, another topic jump. Most of the calls were from seatback air phones, so you're going to have to be specific about which calls.

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Spurtacular

Bla, bla. How did the towers collapse?

You can't tell anyone you have researched this if you don't know the generally accepted theory of structural collapse.

You have no credibility without that knowledge and now you are proving you have no interest in actually seeking it for yourself.

**Wild Cobra** · 08-20-2017

Stupid People like this are as big a danger to this country as any racist

I would say lib s are far more dangerous than any racist.

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Wild Cobra

I would say lib s are far more dangerous than any racist.

Of course you would.

**Mikeanaro** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

You need to explain what you mean here. truthers are always jumping from one topic to another when they hit a dead end. You're the one jumping, so be specific about where you're jumping.

I dont need to explain nothing, you always have problems when something contradicts your theories, in this particular case you are saying the fire of the WTC has hotter than lava.

No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is en led "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC." FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F).Aug 1, 2017

**Wild Cobra** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Of course you would.

Yes, I am somewhat predictable on some topics...

**Spurtacular** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Threre were signs of a plane all over the ground outside the Pentagon right after impact. Surely you have seen the pictures in all your years of research.

Where did the 757 go?

I'm going to call bull on that one. You need to provide a link for something like that.

Hey, another topic jump. Most of the calls were from seatback air phones, so you're going to have to be specific about which calls.

Many calls were from cellphones (and with perfect voice clarity) even though cellphones were not designed to do that.

Go ahead and show me these "signs of plane all over the ground" and btw,

that you call it "signs of plane" and not actually pieces of plane. And as long as we're on the subject of planes, why did we never get to hear the audio of the black boxes?

**DarrinS** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

I dont need to explain nothing, you always have problems when something contradicts your theories, in this particular case you are saying the fire of the WTC has hotter than lava.

No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is en led "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC." FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F).Aug 1, 2017

Does steel have to be molten to be weak? Use your brain cells.

**DarrinS** · 08-20-2017

, why am I engaging in this re ed argument?

**Pavlov** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

I dont need to explain nothing, you always have problems when something contradicts your theories, in this particular case you are saying the fire of the WTC has hotter than lava.

No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is en led "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC." FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F).Aug 1, 2017

Where are you getting all this melting steel business? You're going to have to explain that, I'm afraid.

**Spurtacular** · 08-20-2017

Originally Posted by Mikeanaro

I dont need to explain nothing, you always have problems when something contradicts your theories, in this particular case you are saying the fire of the WTC has hotter than lava.

No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is en led "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC." FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F).Aug 1, 2017

But...but...but... Pavlov really wants to believe! ing stool pigeon.