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    Trump to issue stop-payment order on health care subsidies

    WASHINGTON (AP) — In a move likely to roil America’s insurance markets, President Donald Trump will “immediately” halt payments to insurers under the Obama-era health care law he has been trying to persuade Congress to unravel for months.

    Before sunrise Friday morning, Trump went on Twitter to urge Democrats to make a deal: “The Democrats ObamaCare is imploding,” he wrote. “Massive subsidy payments to their pet insurance companies has stopped. Dems should call me to fix!”
    https://apnews.com/43e18d46f519464aa5c5f79f7eb1503e
    Democrats now get to rightfully blame Trump and the GOP for all the premium increases and canceled/reduced coverage.

    He seriously thinks the Dems in congress are going to come to his rescue.

    All kidding aside, we now get to see how Republican war-on-the-poor policies play out.

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    Section 1402 of Obamacare requires insurance companies to reduce deductibles, copayments, and other similar payments for lower-income consumers and then says that the federal government will reimburse the insurers for their losses. Specifically, insurers will notify the federal government of the amount of their price reductions, and the government will “make periodic and timely payments to the insurer equal to the value of the reductions.”

    Unlike other provisions of Obamacare covering other forms of subsidies (for example, Section 1401, which funded subsidies that helped cover insurance premiums), the law didn’t specifically appropriate any money to fund these payments. This isn’t a small thing. In fact, it implicates the core cons utional structure of our government. Article I, Section 9, of the Cons ution unambiguously declares that “no Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by law.” The most relevant federal appropriations statute states quite clearly that “a law may be construed to make an appropriation out of the Treasury . . . only if the law specifically states that an appropriation is made.” In fact, there is unmistakeable evidence that President Obama knew that his administration needed a specific appropriation to fund Section 1402 subsidies — he asked Congress for the money. Congress said no. It didn’t appropriate a single dime. So Obama did what he did best: He “penned and phoned” the subsidies into existence. He directly violated the Cons ution by spending the money anyway. The House of Representatives sued, and on May 12, 2016, federal district court judge Rosemary Collyer ruled in the House’s favor and held that the Obama administration’s payments were unlawful. Her opinion reads like a 38-page civics lesson, but for all its length the court’s core holding is simple: “The Affordable Care Act unambiguously appropriates money for Section 1401 premium tax credits but not for Section 1402 reimbursements to insurers. Such an appropriation cannot be inferred.”

    The Obama administration argued that blocking the payments would lead to “absurd economic, fiscal, and healthcare-policy results.” The judge’s response was cons utionally and legally sound: The only result of the ACA, however, is that the Section 1402 reimbursements must be funded annually. Far from absurd, that is a perfectly valid means of appropriation. The results predicted by the [administration] flow not from the ACA, but from Congress’ subsequent refusal to appropriate money. In other words, if you have a problem with the lack of appropriation, take it up with the House and Senate.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...egal-subsidies

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    Trash owns Obamacare now and the suffering and deaths he's commiting

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    The Prophecy 666 tbqh

    Kushner owns 666 building in NYC btw

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    Trash owns Obamacare now and the suffering and deaths he's commiting

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    The Prophecy 666 tbqh

    Kushner owns 666 building in NYC btw
    Looking for that kind of is worse than tweeting the turd you just laid, as POTUS, tbh.

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    I'm confused. What does this have to do with Hillary?

    Oh, that's right, nothing.

    I wonder how Trump will spin the premium increases.

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    Trump Says He Got Rid of Obamacare. The I.R.S. Doesn’t Agree.

    “Essentially, we are getting rid of Obamacare,”

    “Some people would say, essentially, we have gotten rid of it.”

    the Internal Revenue Service has been pursuing companies that fail to comply with the mandate and, according to the agency, was sending penalty notices to more than 30,000 businesses around the country.

    The Congressional Budget Office predicted that these fines would total $12 billion in 2018.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/06/b...er=rss&emc=rss

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    Trash owns Obamacare now and the suffering and deaths he's commiting
    So according to you, Obama installed a system that depended on a Republican president buying into socialism?

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    Every attempt to repeal the ACA, even with the GOP controlling all three branches of government, has failed.

    It's still on the books because a few Republicans go along with it, and Trump's IRS is enforcing the insurance mandate.

    Republican opposition to the ACA appears to be virtue signalling.

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    Its in deep trouble without the individual mandate honestly

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    1000s will suffer and die as sociopathic Repugs degrade ACA, cut poor women's clinics, increase pollution, fund criminal CPCs

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    Health insurers say higher Obamacare premiums are coming, and it’s Republicans’ fault

    People who don't have insurance through work stand to lose.

    Early signs show health insurance companies are trying to exponentially raise prices for plans sold on the Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace — and

    for people who don’t qualify for federal assistance, there’s no relief in sight.


    Insurers in Maryland and Virginia are asking for double-digit premium increases to 2019 monthly plans.

    CareFirst BlueCross BlueShield CEO Chet Burrell said that Maryland’s exchange is in the “advanced stages of a death spiral.”

    Health experts warned this would happen.

    In fact, insurers who set the premium rates cautioned that costs would rise if lawmakers continued to undermine the Obamacare exchanges and not shore up the market.

    A letter issued to lawmakers in November from major health industry players said

    “eliminating the individual mandate by itself likely will result in a significant increase in premiums,

    which would in turn substantially increase the number of uninsured Americans.”

    Instability —

    largely driven by Republican policy like the repeal of the mandate and

    the president’s decision to stop paying insurers for cost sharing subsidies —

    has irked insurance companies, but they’re mostly able to avoid serious harm.

    In 2017, for example,

    insurers still made money — Blue Cross Blue Shield had a $1.3 billion windfall — by raising premiums and enjoying the delay of an Obamacare tax,

    https://thinkprogress.org/new-insura...-0793a17d1eb0/


    4M+ have lost or quit ACA under the Repugs.

    This is what you deplorables voted for, right?

    And of course, the Repugs destroy ACA, hurt Americans, and with have no replacement


    Last edited by boutons_deux; 05-09-2018 at 12:01 PM.

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    Health insurers say higher Obamacare premiums are coming, and it’s Republicans’ fault
    lmao but how? if obama slid that pos HC under our noses then how's it repubs fault that premiums are coming when that pos HC should've never been a thing in the first place? loony left logic.

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    lmao but how? if obama slid that pos HC under our noses then how's it repubs fault that premiums are coming when that pos HC should've never been a thing in the first place? loony left logic.
    You don't even know the main reason the premiums are going up.

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    You don't even know the main reason the premiums are going up.
    i don't even care. if it wasn't clandestine to begin with you and i wouldn't have this back and forth right now. case closed pav.

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    i don't even care.
    We knew that.

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    Health Insurers Warn of Market Turmoil as Trump Suspends Billions in Payments

    Seema Verma, the administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said Trump administration officials had

    decided to suspend payments

    because of a February court ruling in New Mexico.

    The Trump administration said Saturday that it was suspending a program that pays billions of dollars to insurers to stabilize health insurance markets under the Affordable Care Act,

    a freeze that could increase uncertainty in the markets and drive up premiums this fall.

    Many insurers that enroll large numbers of unhealthy people depend on the “risk adjustment” payments,

    which are intended to reduce the incentives for insurers to seek out healthy consumers and shun those with chronic illnesses and other pre-existing conditions.

    “Any action to stop disbursements under the risk adjustment program

    will significantly increase 2019 premiums for millions of individuals and small-business owners, and

    could result in far fewer health plan choices,”

    said Justine G. Handelman, a senior vice president of the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association.

    “It will undermine Americans’ access to affordable care,

    particularly for those who need medical care the most.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/us/politics/trump-risk-adjustment-payments-obamacare.html

    Trash and his mafiya committing willful manslaughter



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    Woman Trapped By Subway Train

    Did Not Want To Call An Ambulance

    Because She Can't Afford It

    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-afford-it.htm

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    A Baby Was Treated With A Nap And A Bottle Of Formula. The Bill Was $18,000.

    Park Jeong Whan, fell off the bed in the family’s hotel room and hit his head.

    There was no blood, but the baby was inconsolable. Jang and her husband worried he might have an injury they couldn’t see, so they called 911, and

    an ambulance took the family — tourists from South Korea — to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital (SFGH).

    just a little bruising on his nose and forehead.

    He took a short nap in his mother’s arms, drank some infant formula and was discharged a few hours later with a clean bill of health. The family continued their vacation, and the incident was quickly forgotten.


    Two years later, the bill finally arrived at their home: They owed the hospital $18,836 for a visit lasting three hours and 22 minutes,

    the bulk of which was for a mysterious fee for $15,666 labeled “trauma activation,”

    also known as “a trauma response fee.”

    https://khn.org/news/how-er-bills-ca...auma-response/



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    A Baby Was Treated With A Nap And A Bottle Of Formula. The Bill Was $18,000.

    Park Jeong Whan, fell off the bed in the family’s hotel room and hit his head.

    There was no blood, but the baby was inconsolable. Jang and her husband worried he might have an injury they couldn’t see, so they called 911, and

    an ambulance took the family — tourists from South Korea — to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital (SFGH).

    just a little bruising on his nose and forehead.

    He took a short nap in his mother’s arms, drank some infant formula and was discharged a few hours later with a clean bill of health. The family continued their vacation, and the incident was quickly forgotten.


    Two years later, the bill finally arrived at their home: They owed the hospital $18,836 for a visit lasting three hours and 22 minutes,

    the bulk of which was for a mysterious fee for $15,666 labeled “trauma activation,”

    also known as “a trauma response fee.”

    https://khn.org/news/how-er-bills-ca...auma-response/


    And???? You think Trump is responsible for that?

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    And???? You think Trump is responsible for that?
    it's a problem that Trumpcare REFUSES to address, and even intends to make much worse.

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    Woman Trapped By Subway Train

    Did Not Want To Call An Ambulance

    Because She Can't Afford It

    https://www.techtimes.com/articles/2...-afford-it.htm
    all you has to do is bring what she makes and they waive it

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    A Baby Was Treated With A Nap And A Bottle Of Formula. The Bill Was $18,000.

    Park Jeong Whan, fell off the bed in the family’s hotel room and hit his head.

    There was no blood, but the baby was inconsolable. Jang and her husband worried he might have an injury they couldn’t see, so they called 911, and

    an ambulance took the family — tourists from South Korea — to Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital (SFGH).

    just a little bruising on his nose and forehead.

    He took a short nap in his mother’s arms, drank some infant formula and was discharged a few hours later with a clean bill of health. The family continued their vacation, and the incident was quickly forgotten.


    Two years later, the bill finally arrived at their home: They owed the hospital $18,836 for a visit lasting three hours and 22 minutes,

    the bulk of which was for a mysterious fee for $15,666 labeled “trauma activation,”

    also known as “a trauma response fee.”

    https://khn.org/news/how-er-bills-ca...auma-response/




    bring the proof of what they make most is waived
    the problem is it should not cost that but people are sue happy and if something goes wrong they sue it
    therefore their insurance is $$$$$$$ and then they pass it on

    these has been going on the last 8 presidents nothing new

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