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    When Kyle Anderson shows up against the Warriors in a series, then you might have something. Stat stuffing with Kawhi out ain't that big a deal, tbh.
    Agreed

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    He made two turnovers back to back, if that ain't asking to be taken out I don't know what is. Especially considering the mistakes were made by a youthful Bertans and not a vet. Pop's been putting young players on short leashes since I remember. You still haven't accepted that I guess. The kid is from Europe, he can take a real coach. But you man are coming off as soft. If this a jab in the direction that Simmons wanted more leeway, and now all of sudden Pop can't discipline players that's just dumb. Toughness requires heart. I think Simmons decision was more of an expanded role than anything so I'm not gonna question his heart. But Bertans has a lot of flaws and if he's turning the ball over he becomes more of a liability cause he struggles to board and play defense. If he's on offense and can't get a look, and tries to make plays and can't what is he doing out there. He becomes a detriment.

    All in all, he's a strong minded kid and he's tough. I think this is a major overreaction. Also Kyle is a baller. Good day
    Huh??? I've seen Kyle, Manu, Mills all make horrible turnovers in a short span... Matter of fact, Kyle had a horrible play after he was subbed in... But those are the beloved players right now by the coaches, so they will never pull them for idiocy... Even Kyle admitted he wasn't playing well before because of how Pop had him on a very short leash... So why is it so weird for ppl to accept that this also affects Murray and Davis?

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    ST'ers trying to make this about race. I ain't no Bertans fan boy, es. Ya'lls is weak.
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    Bert passed it TWICE with such lackadaisical low velocity even lil DPG could have stolen it and gotten a fast break

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    Pop treats all players the same.

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    OP is a . Fathead is a superior player to his pasty white boy Bertans

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    Huh??? I've seen Kyle, Manu, Mills all make horrible turnovers in a short span... Matter of fact, Kyle had a horrible play after he was subbed in... But those are the beloved players right now by the coaches, so they will never pull them for idiocy... Even Kyle admitted he wasn't playing well before because of how Pop had him on a very short leash... So why is it so weird for ppl to accept that this also affects Murray and Davis?
    The difference is all the above mentioned players have earned their Lee way. Kyle is a rotation player. He's consistently played well and past the short leash phase. Bertans hasn't earned a longer leash but he has earned some playing time with that performance in OKC. Fact is Davis has been inconsistent on both sides of the ball and Pop wants to make him earn it. If he can't take it who cares or Murray for that matter. Nothing wrong with making players earn what they get. I teach my very young daughters the same thing. It's a blue collar mentality.

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    The difference is all the above mentioned players have earned their Lee way. Kyle is a rotation player. He's consistently played well and past the short leash phase. Bertans hasn't earned a longer leash but he has earned some playing time with that performance in OKC. Fact is Davis has been inconsistent on both sides of the ball and Pop wants to make him earn it. If he can't take it who cares or Murray for that matter. Nothing wrong with making players earn what they get. I teach my very young daughters the same thing. It's a blue collar mentality.
    How exsctly did kyle earn it? Its not as if he was great last season...dude was trash...the ONLY difference is that he was thrust into the stsrter role this year because Pop had no alternative...

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    How exsctly did kyle earn it? Its not as if he was great last season...dude was trash...the ONLY difference is that he was thrust into the stsrter role this year because Pop had no alternative...
    This.
    Fathead has done well so far but lets not act like it was some great strategy by Popped and the front orfice.
    The same dumbf's who signed Patty for 5 X 50
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    ST'ers trying to make this about race. I ain't no Bertans fan boy, es. Ya'lls is weak.
    Yeah, you're not a Bertans fanboy, you only made a thread crying about him getting benched for making ed plays. Idiot.

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    Yeah, you're not a Bertans fanboy, you only made a thread crying about him getting benched for making ed plays. Idiot.
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    All I care is Poop ing Marsha in the playoffs - hater

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    If only Bertans had played instead of LaMarcus last night, he would have scored 55 and we would have won by 30.

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    How exsctly did kyle earn it? Its not as if he was great last season...dude was trash...the ONLY difference is that he was thrust into the stsrter role this year because Pop had no alternative...
    Being one of the most consistent players on the roster for the last 2-3 weeks, making good decisions with Pop running the offense through him in the pnr, making big plays every game. Are you trolling me or do you not watch Spurs games. How long have you been watching the Spurs play??

    Fact is he started this year as an afterthought and has somehow become an intrical part in the rotation. Pop has already said as much, saying they got to figure out how to keep him in the rotation. He's earned what he's got. He's put in years of work like Messina said. I'm not just making up , the coaches are saying as much. Maybe you should pay attention to interviews........................

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    OP is a . Fathead is a superior player to his pasty white boy Bertans
    Didn't make this thread for the sake of hyping one over the other. So....

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    Yeah, you're not a Bertans fanboy, you only made a thread crying about him getting benched for making ed plays. Idiot.
    This the only time I've even regarded Bertans this season; not sure how that's supposed to make me a "fanboy" Maybe, you should actually know your .


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    Gay two dumb turnovers in a row against Memphis in the 3rd. No hook.

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    Gay two dumb turnovers in a row against Memphis in the 3rd. No hook.
    Anyone can see Gay an Melo is the same person. Only Gay isn't the drama queen Melo is. Gay is ok with the amount of touches he gets. But he's a ball stopper too. If we was losing, his mistakes would be magnified.

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    Anyone can see Gay an Melo is the same person. Only Gay isn't the drama queen Melo is. Gay is ok with the amount of touches he gets. But he's a ball stopper too. If we was losing, his mistakes would be magnified.
    I wouldn't want Gay (a vet) taken out in that scenario. Just saying Pop needs to stop spazzing just b/c a younger player is still cutting his teeth.

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    I wouldn't want Gay (a vet) taken out in that scenario. Just saying Pop needs to stop spazzing just b/c a younger player is still cutting his teeth.
    Tbh, where would he fit in? Over who?? I like Davis myself, but who would he play over?

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    I'd love to see Kawhi an Davis run P&P or P&R... Him an Gay could off the bench. But Pop wouldn't allow it!

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    Tbh, where would he fit in? Over who?? I like Davis myself, but who would he play over?
    Nowhere right now with the way he is playing. Not even saying Bertans should be a part of the rotation. Just saying, don't with his head.

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    Well him and everyone else will get an opportunity tonight. Hopefully he takes advantage of it.

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    Being one of the most consistent players on the roster for the last 2-3 weeks, making good decisions with Pop running the offense through him in the pnr, making big plays every game. Are you trolling me or do you not watch Spurs games. How long have you been watching the Spurs play??

    Fact is he started this year as an afterthought and has somehow become an intrical part in the rotation. Pop has already said as much, saying they got to figure out how to keep him in the rotation. He's earned what he's got. He's put in years of work like Messina said. I'm not just making up , the coaches are saying as much. Maybe you should pay attention to interviews........................
    Dude are u slow? U were saying Bertans hasn't earned it, but Kyle has... So my reply was how did Kyle earn it when he was GIVEN the starting role since the beginning of the season out of necessity, THEN grew into himself... Bertans wasn't even playing... So why are u bringing up the past 2-3 weeks? That had no relevance to the argument... Kyle was starting for the whole season... He was given the chance to grow as a Ayer while Bertans was relegated to DNPCDs, and spot minutes

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