Game Thread: Spurs @ Suns -- Sat. (12/9) - 8:00/C (4:00am Riga Time)

[Chinook]

Pop played Hilliard but not Costello... hm? Do you have a conspiracy theory for that one Chinook?

Castello in the G-League according to the box score on Yahoo.

I could have sworn I saw Costello on the bench. If he were there, then his two-way thing would kick in even if he didn't play, so I'm going to go ahead and assume Yahoo knows what it's doing there.

[Thunder1]

I saw him on the bench...not sure if he was dressed out or not...

[SAGirl]

then I am assuming he was there for foul trouble or injuies together with Hilliard and HIlliard getting minutes in this game was a casualty of the rook White turning the ball over and Pop having an extremely short hook with him and deciding to play Hilliard a few minutes instead. I didn't see Hilliard in the second half I don't think. Oh well satisfies my curiosity.

thanks

[LakerHater]

[Darius Bieber]

Yes, Rockets are about to lose!

Nah, they aren't the Spurs. They're actual contenders who win.

[Fireball]

well, we got the win ... in other aspects this game reflected everything being the fifth game in seven nights for the spurs

[Pavlov]

Pop played Hilliard but not Costello... hm? Do you have a conspiracy theory for that one Chinook?

Coming off an injury. Only played ten minutes Thursday.

[duncan2k5]

I'm amused at the good reviews Forbes is getting despite shooting badly, and having a lot of turnovers... Yet if it were Murray, ppl would have been calling for his head... With no regard for the fact that Murray does other things well... Ppl give Kyle a chance until this year when he started to play decent for the first time, yet don't want to give a much younger player with a higher ceiling a chance... Own your hypocrisy

[boutons_deux]

Very mysterious that "shooter" Forbes shoots a FT% of 41, but 83% last season.

In his worst years, TD shot better.

[Horse]

Short handed and Phoenix sucks but my god those refs in the 4th quarter!

[duncan2k5]

I'm amused at the good reviews Forbes is getting despite shooting badly, and having a lot of turnovers... Yet if it were Murray, ppl would have been calling for his head... With no regard for the fact that Murray does other things well... Ppl give Kyle a chance until this year when he started to play decent for the first time, yet don't want to give a much younger player with a higher ceiling a chance... Own your hypocrisy

[jyra]

Very mysterious that "shooter" Forbes shoots a FT% of 41, but 83% last season.

In his worst years, TD shot better.

He shot 6 FTs last year and 17 FTs this year. That's a tiny sample size.

[boutons_deux]

He shot 6 FTs last year and 17 FTs this year. That's a tiny sample size.

41% on 17 FTs is very weird

[SAGirl]

Coming off an injury. Only played ten minutes Thursday.

Thanks I didn’t know that.

[BatManu20]

1%? You sick bas .

Not my phone btw.

[Joseph Kony]

I want to see more of White tbh...he made two solid drives to the bucket and scored yesterday. Small sample but he already looking better around the rim than Murray

[K...]

Yeah I'm hoping white shakes out so Patty and Murray can be six man type gunners rather than pg. You need a smart player to be pg, and mills isn't fit, he's all rhythm shooting. Murray is street smart and knows how to work his body to get to the rim. But I don't see him with great chemistry at any level of play since the original summer league.

[BackHome]

White going to be good and I keep saying move Murray to SG

[Mr. Body]

White going to be good and I keep saying move Murray to SG

A shooting guard who cannot shoot. That's brilliant.

[duncan2k5]

White going to be good and I keep saying move Murray to SG

Murray would be horrible at SG... It is PG or bust for him that...

[sasaint]

A shooting guard who cannot shoot. That's brilliant.

Murray would be horrible at SG... It is PG or bust for him that...

In today's NBA he has to improve his shooting a lot to make it as a PG - not to mention his handles and decision-making. Definitely a no-go at SG.

[SAGirl]

In today's NBA he has to improve his shooting a lot to make it as a PG - not to mention his handles and decision-making. Definitely a no-go at SG.

It's like TD 21 said and I quote him bc he was really more succinct than I can ever put it:

.... between the extremely loose handle and the non existent jump shot, I can't remember a PG like this being successful and the fact that he's shown no improvement in either area 16 months after being drafted doesn't inspire confidence.

Smart, Carter-Williams, Dunn, Mudiay, Payton, Exum, are all recent examples of hyped PG's who struggled in at least one of these areas (all were at least willing jump shooters though) and right now Payton is the only starter and he's a low end one at that.

I tend to think Dijon is a guy who through all of his high school and the one college season, got by on his quickness and his physical gifts alone, which were tremendously notable and dominant at the lower levels. Now he needs to add the part that is "between the ears", as well as a better and more complete offensive game. He's basically learning how to play as a real PG right now is how I see it, and we will just have to see what happens with him. He can be really good in a few years... or like some of the guys above, basically remain the same guy. That means they are NBA players, but not stars. hhhmmmm.

[sasaint]

It's like TD 21 said and I quote him bc he was really more succinct than I can ever put it:



I tend to think Dijon is a guy who through all of his high school and the one college season, got by on his quickness and his physical gifts alone, which were tremendously notable and dominant at the lower levels. Now he needs to add the part that is "between the ears", as well as a better and more complete offensive game. He's basically learning how to play as a real PG right now is how I see it, and we will just have to see what happens with him. He can be really good in a few years... or like some of the guys above, basically remain the same guy. That means they are NBA players, but not stars. hhhmmmm.

Yeah, I have gone 180° on Dijon. I thought the "sink-or-swim" approach would be good last year, especially with Tony's play for the first part of last season. I think I was a little blinded by his athleticism (like PATFO). But the SL and now a quarter of this season have convinced me that he is more like the second coming of MCW (with apologies to Kawhistorm).

[Chinook]

Murray's problems are mental. He has issues to clean up, but he's not behind other players his age. He really just can't shoot. Of he could do that, Pop could play him more off the ball and let him grow that way. Everything from finishing to defense would be easier if he had a shot as his foundation.

[SAGirl]

Murray's problems are mental. He has issues to clean up, but he's not behind other players his age. He really just can't shoot. Of he could do that, Pop could play him more off the ball and let him grow that way. Everything from finishing to defense would be easier if he had a shot as his foundation.

I just wonder what happens if he never develops a jumpshot.. or let's say he doesn't develop it within the next couple of seasons (and for this one we already know he doesn't have it).