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actually, its NOT anywhere in the CBA, but that doesnt mean anything because the NBA doesnt NEED the Players Union approval to ins ute a dress code, the NBA was just being polite by showing it to the Players Union before it was passed.
Oh, yeah, let's make the players wear suits because it will make them better persons, no more thugs as soon as they wear a suit. But let's leave Stern, owners, refs, fans, coaches, mascots, journalists and cheerleaders look like dorks with their clothes on, oh wait, they are just dressing what's accepted by the dork majority, so that's ok.
actually, its NOT anywhere in the CBA, but that doesnt mean anything because the NBA doesnt NEED the Players Union approval to ins ute a dress code, the NBA was just being polite by showing it to the Players Union before it was passed.
Lebron and Kobe get it
I think Tim needs to go to a thrift store, buy the ugliest, greenest leisure suit, and have DRESS CODE embroidered on each huge lapel.
Man, I would pay cash money to have Rodman be back in the league now.
it has nothing to do with that! The NBA is an organization, and the players work for that organization. IF THE NBA DEEMS NECESARY THAT THE PLAYERS LOOK MORE PROFESSIONAL, THEN THE PLAYERS HAVE TO SHUT THE UP AND FOLLOW THE CODE IMPLEMENTED! Christ! They get payed more than what 99% of the planet will ever see in a life time, and they still have the nerve to complain about a stupid ing dress code?? I just don't get it!
Duncan needs to stfu like he always has.
He had his chance to be the spokesman of the NBA and be more of a marketing force in today's world.
But he chooses to hide behind the curtain. WGAF. Like I said before.
Nice logic. If you make a lot of money, you lose the right to complain.
Therefore, NBA owners and corporate executives, who make more money than 99.999999% of the planet will ever see in a lifetime, should STFU and stop complaining about the players.
and believe me.. it kills my very soul that I am shaking my head inagreement with Kobe Bryant while watching the evening news...... but the dude is right.
The NBA can deem necesary that players should give blowjobs to donkeys before games as new warm-up method, oh yeah, the players should shut up and follow...well, maybe Cuttino and Stevie would...
Getting paid a lot isn't a crime by which you should be forced to do whatever the league says, the players don't set their wages, owners do.
I look at being able to wear jeans & flip flops to work as a perk. And I don't work at Splashtown or whatever.
I think it's a little over the top, and nicer clothes don't make a thug any less of a thug, but if they agreed to it than they need to adhere to the rules. If they don't like it, then perhaps they should be a little more involved in the next CBA go-around.
It may be what he wanted, but this isn't all Big Bad Stern holding the little guy down, it was negotiated in the CBA. I wonder what benefit the players wanted and got in exchange for that concession? And are any rules at all for owners included in the CBA? If not, why should a dress code extend to them also? Mark Cuban aside, you rarely see them.
And the owners sign the checks. Now STFU, get dressed and and move on.
I thought it wasn't included in the CBA?I look at being able to wear jeans & flip flops to work as a perk. And I don't work at Splashtown or whatever.
I think it's a little over the top, and nicer clothes don't make a thug any less of a thug, but if they agreed to it than they need to adhere to the rules. If they don't like it, then perhaps they should be a little more involved in the next CBA go-around.
It may be what he wanted, but this isn't all Big Bad Stern holding the little guy down, it was negotiated in the CBA. I wonder what benefit the players wanted and got in exchange for that concession? And are any rules at all for owners included in the CBA? If not, why should a dress code extend to them also? Mark Cuban aside, you rarely see them.Argh, I'm gonna have to go look it up myself, I keep reading different things.
It was supposedly part of the nego ations this summer. But I don't see anything about the dress code actually in the final agreement.
Yeah I'm looking at it now, and I don't see it either.
Found a quote from Richard Jefferson that answered my question before I found the actual CBA do entation. Link
Nets forward Richard Jefferson said he was pleased that suits were not required, as previously believed.
"The initial dress code was with suits to and from games and shootaround and (stuff) like that," Jefferson said. "But we knew it wasn't going to go down like that.
"Notice how this thing got snuck in after the CBA (Collective Bargaining Agreement) was already put in. This is a major thing. . . . We knew that there was no way we were going to completely get bogarted and have to wear suits everywhere to and from because that's a part of the deal."
"...BUT WHO AM I?" --Tim Duncan
Thats funny, Timmy D! I was waiting to see what he had to say about this. Good stuff.
I wonder what Big Dave (David Robinson) would say about the dress code? You think he would complain or approve? Not comparing Timmy to Dave, just wondering what he (Dave) would say about it?
David always dressed to impress.
David wore some of the tackiest I've ever seen.
It looks like it's not in the CBA after all ... I had read elsewhere that it was. Apparently this is just a new little twist.
Since that's the case, that's crap.
If you think by making idiotic analogies you're proving a point, you're dead wrong. I never said players should do EVERYTHING they are asked to. If the rule is unfair then by all means complain. BUT A MILDLY STRICT DRESS CODE IS NOT ING UNFAIR CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER PERKS THAT COME WITH THAT JOB!! Players need to STFU and realise they are in a position to set a good example. Wearing a suit never killed anyone! Christ, you'd think they were being harassed by all the commotion!! THEY'RE JUST REQUIRED TO WEAR A ING SUIT!! I wear a suit to work every day for crying out loud! Why should they be excempt from following a dress code implemented by their employers when most normal people aren't.
P.S You know what happens if you complain about wearing a suit on any other line of work that requires it. YOU GET CANNED! Maybe that should happen to some of these guys, it would help their ego back down to a healthy level. Right now, they're just being pampered little girls.
Last edited by MaNuMaNiA; 10-19-2005 at 10:24 PM.
I don't know what Duncan is even talking about here. He is saying that he may stay in the locker room when he is not playing to avoid the dress code. The only difference is the sportcoat when you are not playing and sitting on the bench. When he shows up to home/away games he still has to wear dress shirt and dress pants/jeans and dress shoes regardless. So the sportcoat is a deal breaker for him on this issue, give me a break. Stern is serious here he said flat out those who do not conform should look for a new line of work, i love Timmy but he needs to get with the program.
What a pussy ass crybaby Duncan is being. If it were KG, Kobe, or TMac and not Duncan who has a problem with the dress code, you'd all agree - but since it is our guy that is being a pansy look how many rush out to defend him.
The NBA can dictate to their employees (yes, the NBA is a business with franchises, and players are employees of those franchises and thus the NBA) what to wear as representives of the team and if Tim Duncan doesn't want to adhere, he is more than welcome to find another job that pays him $8 million a year. I don't know what he studied at Wake Forest, but I'd venture to say he isn't going to land a CEO position for a Fortune 100 company any time soon.
for the last time, its not in the CBA. It was never remotely a part of the CBA. It was just passed along to the Players Union as a courtesy to let them know whats going on and nothing more.
- USAToday 10/17/05New York Knicks forward Antonio Davis, president of the NBA players union, said the league did not need the union's approval to ins ute a dress code. "They're being nice to run it by us," Davis said.
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