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    Updated ESPN poll......


    4) Are you in favor of the dress code implemented by the NBA for its players?
    58.9% Yes
    41.1% No

    10) Should the NFL, MLB and NHL use similar dress codes for their players?
    54.7% No
    45.3% Yes

    Total Votes: 128,158


    Unbelieveable.

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    Another thing that I read here yesterday quite a bit (particularly from AHF) is that the NFL has a dress code. As far as I could find, they don't. They just have team policies. Does anyone know what the case is exactly?

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    Definition of "whiny " by Jim and the other clothing Nazis:

    "Someone who doesn't agree with me ... wahwahwah".
    No, you can disagree, but when you whine about something so minor as having to wear decent looking clothing, you are over-reacting.

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    Because those bigots spend millions of dollars on NBA sponcer companys, that is why.
    And that makes it ok?

    Of course not. Hence some of my problems with the dress code. It is truly not just about wearing jeans a collared shirt. If it were, there would not be this outcry and heated debate over it.

    Do I really think that Stern and Co are trying to turn the NBA into an acceptable facsimile of whiteness to appease bigots? No, not really. Do I see where others might think that? Yep. Do I see why people are offended and why people distrust the motivations behind the dress code? yes.

    Bad timing and bad decisions, imo.

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    I myself, am glad Tim Duncan is not a mindless drone and doesn't accept every rule imparted on him like a slave. HE IS SPEAKING HIS MIND!!! He is not hurting anyone while doing it. If you want him to be a mindless drone, guess what? tough!

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    Why do you think that?

    It seems like it was planned out pretty extensively to me. I just don't know who negotiated it.
    Well there's the sneaker thing, banning them when so many guys have endorsement deals that might contractually obligate them to wear the shoes all over the place.

    There's the point raised about the young summer league guys who might suddenly have to revamp their wardrobe before they've really gotten paid.

    And then there's the fact that Stern either overestimated his power to keep guys in line or misread how this would be received. Because this certainly isn't going to help the image of the league if the next two weeks are spent debating whether or not this is racist, whether or not their will be open rebellion to the policy by some of the league's biggest stars, and stuff like that. If anything this is going to alienate all the fans in some way. The young, hip hop crowd will be turned off by "da man" coming down on stars for dressing in a way that a lot of young fans relate to, while the middle age honkies out there will scoff at the players and say to their wives, "Well there you are, I knew they were just greedy thugs who hated authority."

    And at the end of the day, the fans who just want to watch basketball games are still going to watch the games. I just don't see the upside in any of this.

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    Updated ESPN poll......


    4) Are you in favor of the dress code implemented by the NBA for its players?
    58.9% Yes
    41.1% No

    10) Should the NFL, MLB and NHL use similar dress codes for their players?
    54.7% No
    45.3% Yes

    Total Votes: 128,158


    Unbelieveable.
    There was another ESPN poll going on yesterday. That asked if you would allow players not to wear a jacket, and just slacks and a shirt. About 75% were in favor of this but MISTERIOUSLY the poll disappeared!

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    Well, you aren't covering yourself in glory with your takes here.

    So, Jim should baseball players have a dress code?
    How do you mean???

    Are you saying that I am a bigot?

    I am the least bigoted white man in the freaking state of Texas, and if you knew me, you would agree.

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    No, you can disagree, but when you whine about something so minor as having to wear decent looking clothing, you are over-reacting.
    I think when you make adults wear khakis and polos so that rich white suite buyers won't be intimidated by their "thuggish" apparel, THAT'S overreacting.

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    How do you mean???

    Are you saying that I am a bigot?

    I am the least bigoted white man in the freaking state of Texas, and if you knew me, you would agree.
    So those black basketball players need to cave in to a dress code so society will think better of them?

    How about this instead: society gets its collective head out of its ass and stops being so racist?

    What's your answer to a dress code for baseball players or for NBA owners?

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    And the whole NFL dress code thing, whether they have one or not, take a look at some of the "classy" stuff worn by guys like Michael Irvin or Freddie Mitc and tell me that that's what appeals to middle America. They looked like pimps or drug dealers, which was kind of appropriate for Michael Irvin...but the point I'm trying to make is that you can still look ghetto and no class even in a suit.

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    Updated ESPN poll......


    4) Are you in favor of the dress code implemented by the NBA for its players?
    58.9% Yes
    41.1% No

    10) Should the NFL, MLB and NHL use similar dress codes for their players?
    54.7% No
    45.3% Yes

    Total Votes: 128,158


    Unbelieveable.
    Res Ipsa Loquitur

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    I myself, am glad Tim Duncan is not a mindless drone and doesn't accept every rule imparted on him like a slave. HE IS SPEAKING HIS MIND!!! He is not hurting anyone while doing it. If you want him to be a mindless drone, guess what? tough!

    So, you never said anything when Sprewell said that he had to feed his family?

    He was speaking his mind.

    Like it or not, if you a superstar, you have reponsibilities that other lesser talented players do not have. When you say stupid selfish remarks, it reflects poorly on the Spurs' organization and on your league.

    TD is getting barbecued fro this and he is a great guy, and that pisses me off.

    I guess you guys have no pride in your Spurs always being known as good guys, team players, and selfless individuals....yes?

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    I guess you guys have no pride in your Spurs always being known as good guys, team players, and selfless individuals....yes?
    I don't care if idiots like Duncan or not.

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    So, you never said anything when Sprewell said that he had to feed his family?

    He was speaking his mind.

    Like it or not, if you a superstar, you have reponsibilities that other lesser talented players do not have. When you say stupid selfish remarks, it reflects poorly on the Spurs' organization and on your league.

    TD is getting barbecued fro this and he is a great guy, and that pisses me off.

    I guess you guys have no pride in your Spurs always being known as good guys, team players, and selfless individuals....yes?
    "stupid selfish remarks" according to who??? only you. Nobody else was offended by Duncan's remarks. If we have a poll for who was offended by Duncan's remarks, you'd lose massively.

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    So those black basketball players need to cave in to a dress code so society will think better of them?

    How about this instead: society gets its collective head out of its ass and stops being so racist?

    What's your answer to a dress code for baseball players or for NBA owners?

    There has been bigotry since the beginning of time...it is ludicrous to think it will ever go away.

    We have to live with it and just teach our own children that it is stupid to be a bigot. My son has never ever ever heard my wife or me say anything negative against a race or creed....well, perhaps, Muslims extemists

    Teach your children well, and you do your own small part...but bigots teach their children what they believe and that is why it will aways be there.

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    "stupid selfish remarks" according to who??? only you. Nobody else was offended by Duncan's remarks. If we have a poll for who was offended by Duncan's remarks, you'd lose massively.

    Listen to ESPN.

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    I take great pride in my team. Tim Duncan's comments just don't strike me as all that outrageous, and DID strike me as a response to a question.

    I'd take more umbrage if a) he'd called a press conference to make those statements and b) I disagreed with him. Manu Ginobli also criticized the comments, in that same article, but he's not getting fried. I assume that is because he didn't offer to stay in the locker room.

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    There has been bigotry since the beginning of time...it is ludicrous to think it will ever go away.

    We have to live with it and just teach our own children that it is stupid to be a bigot. My son has never ever ever heard my wife or me say anything negative against a race or creed....well, perhaps, Muslims extemists

    Teach your children well, and you do your own small part...but bigots teach their children what they believe and that is why it will aways be there.
    But in this case, aren't you teaching children "black people need to be told how to dress, especially the ones with money"?

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    I don't care if idiots like Duncan or not.
    Well I do.

    That is a difference betw us.

    I repect your indifference.

    I am finished here. I have to go to work...but first I have to go get my hair in cornrows.



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    Media Hype. Definition. A media circus is an event that occurs when an aspect of a popular news event receives almost ludicrously high levels of media attention. The image of a circus is thus evoked by the vast troop of reporters who are sent to cover the story, as well as a seemingly endless parade of pundits, spin doctors, and spokespeople.

    Listen to ESPN, be ready for media hype.

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    One other thing re: Timmy. The media don't like him and never will. This just gives them some actual meat to chew on instead of vague feelings that he doesn't play with heart.

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    But in this case, aren't you teaching children "black people need to be told how to dress, especially the ones with money"?
    I have to answer this ludicrous question.

    THEY ARE NOT ONLY MAKING THESE RULES FOR THE BLACK PLAYERS!!!!!

    Christ almighty.

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    Media Hype. Definition. A media circus is an event that occurs when an aspect of a popular news event receives almost ludicrously high levels of media attention. The image of a circus is thus evoked by the vast troop of reporters who are sent to cover the story, as well as a seemingly endless parade of pundits, spin doctors, and spokespeople.

    Listen to ESPN, be ready for media hype.

    You do not think the media sways public opinion?????

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    THEY ARE NOT ONLY MAKING THESE RULES FOR THE BLACK PLAYERS!!!!!
    Of course they are. They're just making the Brent Barrys and Dirk Nowitzkis go along so it looks better.

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