its the truth, i think the dress code is a stupid, idiotic move, stern is trying to be a damn communist dictator at the head of the NBA....i hope he suffers for this. Dress codes are for ing middle schoolers and below, personal style is important to a lot of people and he wants to take it away cause he wants people to dress like his old fart ass
There's already been negotiating. The original proposal was much stiffer. What was "leaked" through the media wasn't false information - it was what they were contemplating. What we have now is the negotiated, compromised version.Sadly, it seems there is no chance for compromise now because no one, on either side, wants to appear weak by negotiating.
I had a dress code in elementary school and was miserable because of it.
I think what needs to happen is all the players need to dress the way they want to, and see what the happens, he cant punish them all, i mean by protesting their damn right to dress how they feel like it. The guys show up and have to play their asses off every night why shouldnt they be able to show up relaxed in jeans and a shirt??? Why do they have to cater to Sterns stupid rule??? Is Stern the one running his ass off every night??
I think the locker room should be a free dress area.
After all it is a private changing/ meeting room for the team that outsiders have to be allowed into.
That's garbage.
I just wish Rodman was still playing. He would straighten out Stern. He would wear a wedding dress to a game or something. I hope some player got those balls to do something funny in protest.
You have a much better knowledge of these processes than me.
But it seems like the orderly way to ins ute company policy is to hash it out privately until something is irrevocably settled on and then make the final draft public.
That's what they did.But it seems like the orderly way to ins ute company policy is to hash it out privately until something is irrevocably settled on and then make the final draft public.
Billy Hunter probably breezed over this in the negotiations or conceeded to it without even thinking about twice.
Subsection B Article II Dress Code
Blah Blah Blah
Yeah, whatever Stern you can have it, but the players must get 13.5% of all banana sales sponsored by the NBA.
Now Stern has the rediculous guidelines for dress. He has in a very high sense placed significant limitations on the players' personal freedom and expression. To me, you have to do better than to say because we said so because we want to be more professional.
He needs to meet a much higher standard of scrutiny.
Then to those of you Joe Lunchpail's that say you get paid $8,000,000 a year, you get ask to wear a suit, you wear it --- You're missing the point.
This dress code idea is not just a bad idea, it is a stupid, very stupid idea. Who says what is acceptable to wear? David $tern? Is he an enlightened human being that has the power of decision to tell people what is good to wear and what is "thuggish"? Will he create a comission to decide it composed by top executives from Armani? Why are coats better than t-shirts or jeans? Hitler was always polix-dressed, while Gandhi used to wear something that looked like a bed sheet. So following the dress code logic, Hitler was a much better person, with a better image. This issue is not racial as Stephen Jackson tried to say, but it's about personal freedom. What next? Will Stern dictate what the players should do in their free time?
No they don't contradict at all.
They negotiated privately and came up with a solution. Everyone knew that this was a talking point this summer. If the players/owners involved in the negotiations "leaked" or "discussed" what the negotiations were about or if the media just jumped to conclusions, then that's on them. But it doesn't mean that the "business" (the NBA) didn't handle their company policy privately and then release a statement when they were done. That's exactly what they did.
Angel you can't delete your post .. now mine doesn't make any sense
I am opposed to the dress code because I think it's stupid and does not accomplish the purpose they state. I think that if they want professionalism in basketball, they need to stop the vulgar language, the chest thumping, the arguing in the media and with refs, not put Tim Duncan (a paragon of professionalism on the court)in a suit.
I like the way Timmy dresses. I have no problem with dress codes. I think the players negotiated their right to a dress code away in the CBA. But that doesn't mean I agree with the terms of the dress code or the reasons for the dress code.
I think the superficialness of it is what gets me the most - it's dumb. Slapping a fresh coast of paint on a house with a cracked foundation doesn't make it a new and better house, and everyone knows it. It's such an unnecessary transparent move that has done nothing but upset players and fans and raise new allegations of racism in the NBA.
And in the process, caused a truly beneficial intiative to be completely covered in the bull of the dress code.
Well done, NBA.
Why is it good enough for the NFL but racist for the NBA?
I haven't seen anyone answer that yet.
BTW, I think this is all a ploy by the Spurs PR folks to help Tim get street cred
I am seriously wondering when they are going to start in on hair styles. It absulotely can fall under appropriate attire and appearance. I know some teams have a no headband rule and that other teams have no facial hair rules.
But if the thug/hip-hop/gangsta image is the real issue for the corporates, then when will they outlaw cornrows and fros and hair longer than the collar? Or is that finally hitting too close to racial issues? Because I know those hairstyles make clean-shaven corporate America very very nervous. . .
exactly that will be the next thing to go, is ing having corn rows and dreads....
The NFL doesn't have a rule that players can't wear sneakers when they are leaving/coming to the locker room.Why is it good enough for the NFL but racist for the NBA?
He's NOT a professional! He's a basketball player!... ugh..God forbid you should have to dress like a professional....
I'm not great at math, but I believe that Tim Duncan makes something like 200K dollars per game, now if a player has to do some things he'd rather not do for the privilege of being able to make that much money than I don't think that's unreasonable.
I mean this guy makes twice what most people make in a year, and he'll never have to worry about his daughter and his wife, or any of his family for that matter.
He'll never have to worry about his daughter having money to get into college, or having to borrow 800.00 from Jim, and if all he's got to do is wear a sports jacket and some nice shoes, well God Forbid....
Kori, I agree that they need to revise that sneaker rule (especially if they wear the team warmups).
My point was more along the lines of the outrage at even having a dress code. The NFL does, and the players always look well dressed after the games.
All this racist just pisses me off, you don't hear Vick or Julius Jones or anyone crying about wearing a suit.
NBA players need to grow the up.
The NBA draws a lot of fans because of the originality of its players, both of their game as well as of their personalities. If clothing is not a means of self-expression I don't know what is.
it, this'll probably blow up this thread but this is about the NBA and its sponsors trying not to lose or win back a lot of white middle aged men who don't feel like spending their jack on a bunch of "thugs".
what are u talking about? It was only that dumb ass Jackson who mentioned racism. Nobody else. And if you gonna go and actually listen to Jackson.....good luck
it, this is about race. It's about a fan base that consists of a lot of white folks with $$$$ wanting to see those young blacks be put back under control.
I don't agree, the NBA was more popular ten years ago and there were considerably less players dressing the way they do now, if any.
The most popular and most marketable player in the history of the game (Jordan) wore suits and ties often...
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