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    How did this turn into kawhi is lying?
    You said Kawhi felt his injury has been mismanaged since last year. Kawhi said the injury wasn't from last year.

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    Last year could refer to the summer at this point. It's also possible that Miller said since the summer.

    I think the bigger point is that he's suggesting there is a disconnect between kawhi and the spurs regarding his treatment and injury tto the point that kawhi is not using the spurs doctors.

    I'm trying to see if I can find the segment online but I'm coming up short at this point.

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    You said Kawhi felt his injury has been mismanaged since last year. Kawhi said the injury wasn't from last year.
    ernest787 didn't say anything. He repeated what he heard from a source, who repeated what he heard from another source, who repeated something he heard from any number of sources.

    We have no idea if any of this has a shred of validity.

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    ernest787 didn't say anything. He repeated what he heard from a source, who repeated what he heard from another source, who repeated something he heard from any number of sources.

    We have no idea if any of this has a shred of validity.
    That is what I meant. His OP was about what Miller said. I thought that was understood.

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    We have no idea if any of this has a shred of validity.
    Exactly

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    Last year could refer to the summer at this point. It's also possible that Miller said since the summer.

    I think the bigger point is that he's suggesting there is a disconnect between kawhi and the spurs regarding his treatment and injury tto the point that kawhi is not using the spurs doctors.

    I'm trying to see if I can find the segment online but I'm coming up short at this point.
    I am not trying to sound like I am critical of you and apologize if it sounds that way. I think we all are on edge due to our team's best player being hurt. I have searched online for it as well with no luck.

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    Lol ppl really believing Kawhi is using his own drs and not Spirs docs???

    No wonder masses believe the Russia hoax


    Kawhu MIGHT have gotten a 2nd opinion but he is using team docs

    Jesus

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    I can't be angry at the way the Spurs have managed this injury since it's an injury that can't be healed through surgery. I have just read up on the injury and from all the sources I have read there is no treatment other than rest. If you want to learn more about Kawhi's injury go click on this link https://www.epainassist.com/sports-i...s-tendinopathy

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    Lol ppl really believing Kawhi is using his own drs and not Spirs docs???

    No wonder masses believe the Russia hoax


    Kawhu MIGHT have gotten a 2nd opinion but he is using team docs

    Jesus
    Oh he definitely got a 2nd opinion, I believe. That sounds like something that is very common in sports. Especially with an injury like this. I was talking with a few PTs (I work with and know a lot of PTs) and there is a lot of new research regarding Tendinopathy in the past few years. Obviously, none of them have treated Kawhi but based on conversations with them I am confidant that if it is just Tendinopathy that he will be 100% and that shutting him down for the pain that he is reported as having is the right step.

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    Also, I am just going to bite my tongue on that "hoax" line

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    I’m confused on the possible disagreement with Spurs/Kawhi regarding treatment of injury..

    Any tendinitis injury isn’t easily fixed or solved. The Spurs cautious approach is exactly how you would want to treat this injury..coming back sooner or playing more minutes won’t help the injury. I don’t think it has anything to do with dealing with currents injury..

    I’ve stated this many times but IMO this became a problem during his rehab for the ankle in offseason....there was obviously a hiccup there. Spurs first comments were that his rehab took unexpected turns and taking longer then expected...

    We then find out later it’s not the ankle but a “quad” after the fact spurs can’t hide a guy rehabbing an ankle injury for the entire summer and 1st quarter of season.


    Something happened in rehab. The question is what and why? And is there really anyone to blame??

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    Last year could refer to the summer at this point. It's also possible that Miller said since the summer.

    I think the bigger point is that he's suggesting there is a disconnect between kawhi and the spurs regarding his treatment and injury tto the point that kawhi is not using the spurs doctors.

    I'm trying to see if I can find the segment online but I'm coming up short at this point.
    I don’t believe this Miller Light guy. As weaksauce as the beer. Most probably his source was Jeff McDonald and we all know what that means.

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    I don’t believe this Miller Light guy. As weaksauce as the beer. Most probably his source was Jeff McDonald and we all know what that means.
    Agreed. I never swallow light beer.

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    I don’t believe this Miller Light guy. As weaksauce as the beer. Most probably his source was Jeff McDonald and we all know what that means.
    I hope you're right. But Miller is extremely thoughtful about what he says. He's the exact opposite of a sportstalk blowhard.

    I don't think I've ever heard him throw out anything just for a talking point.

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    It has never been disclosed exactly when and how he injured it as far as I know...
    but I dug up this news report from that first interview Kawhi himself gave to let the fans and media know he was soon to come back to play...
    see for yourself:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...but/108320142/

    1. First of all, he said the injury,

    2. He also said,
    And that is why none of it makes sense. No compe ive basketball at least NBA basketball for months.. Just resting and staying in shape and he comes into camp injured. I don't recall anything like this ever happening? If this is an injury in the off season you are told WTF happened? Broke your foot playing 5 on 5, injured in the weight room, fell down a slope when skiing something? Wear and Tear?? In the offseason and you are 26. ing nuts..

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    And that is why none of it makes sense. No compe ive basketball at least NBA basketball for months.. Just resting and staying in shape and he comes into camp injured. I don't recall anything like this ever happening? If this is an injury in the off season you are told WTF happened? Broke your foot playing 5 on 5, injured in the weight room, fell down a slope when skiing something? Wear and Tear?? In the offseason and you are 26. ing nuts..
    from a link someone posted... I am not in the medical field and don't pretend to know... have merely cited what Pop and Kawhi himself said about the injury... but someone posted this link:
    Since the pain usually develops slowly over time, this injury is considered as an overuse type injury rather an injury of sudden onset. Middle aged athletes and athletes involved with weightlifting are more prone to this type of injury due to excessive strain placed on the muscle insertion when they do deep squats.
    https://www.epainassist.com/sports-i...s-tendinopathy
    there's more you can learn through your own search

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    Lol at this terrible thread of speculation

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    from a link someone posted... I am not in the medical field and don't pretend to know... have merely cited what Pop and Kawhi himself said about the injury... but someone posted this link:

    https://www.epainassist.com/sports-i...s-tendinopathy
    there's more you can learn through your own search
    It's ing depressing to think that this is happening to a 26 yr old

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    It's ing depressing to think that this is happening to a 26 yr old
    Needed more rest

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    And that is why none of it makes sense. No compe ive basketball at least NBA basketball for months.. Just resting and staying in shape and he comes into camp injured. I don't recall anything like this ever happening? If this is an injury in the off season you are told WTF happened? Broke your foot playing 5 on 5, injured in the weight room, fell down a slope when skiing something? Wear and Tear?? In the offseason and you are 26. ing nuts..
    Probably from training.

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    I am not trying to sound like I am critical of you and apologize if it sounds that way. I think we all are on edge due to our team's best player being hurt. I have searched online for it as well with no luck.
    Maybe Miller was purely speculating & painting a strawman? The way the NBA is covered, amazed nobody nationally has run the story to ground.

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    from a link someone posted... I am not in the medical field and don't pretend to know... have merely cited what Pop and Kawhi himself said about the injury... but someone posted this link:

    https://www.epainassist.com/sports-i...s-tendinopathy
    there's more you can learn through your own search
    Crazy. I am starting to fear this is like a Penny Hardaway. Knee injury that seemed minor turned into a nightmare that derailed his career. Hoping for a better outcome..

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    Probably from training.
    He is only 26. All great athletes, especially the all time greats have a huge training regimen. Kobe, MJ, Jerry Rice all legendary for off-season regimens. Timmy's commitment to his diet and training kept him playing at an elite level until he was nearly 40. This seems rare and scary since he is so young. Spurs have to hold onto him obviously and HOPE next year he will come back to what he was. Only thing they can do..

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    Bad luck. Just bad luck. The problem is the Spurs are willing to play for a top 4 seed when the rest of the NBA would tank with their best player out. I’d be interested to know if the injury will ever go away with rest. My guess is no.

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    Crazy. I am starting to fear this is like a Penny Hardaway. Knee injury that seemed minor turned into a nightmare that derailed his career. Hoping for a better outcome..
    I don't think it'll turn into a Penny situation because I don't think the Spurs will let that happen. One of the reasons Penny ended up the way he did was because he was feeling pain and told the team doctors. When they didn't find any damage they told him that the pain was in his head and to keep playing. so he continued to play through the pain until he needed microfracture surgery. The Spurs are being cautious with Kawhi, the exact opposite of what the Magic did with Penny (btw, the Magic also contributed to Grant Hill's ankle issues). Kawhi has only played 9 games this year so he should end up being fine as long as they are cautious. Based on the things I have heard from people in the medical field about tendinopathy the Spurs are handling this exactly right. Sucks as a fan not getting to see him on the court but I want him healthy for the long run.

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