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    Leonard's physique is one of the most steroid-y in the NBA, and he didn't always look like that.
    I dunno ... 3 sets ... 8-10 reps. Add some protein powder in there. Seems doable.

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    You guys think Kawhi is on 'roids? And that is the reason for his slow healing? If so, why aren't other players who might be on them this slow at healing?

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    yes you can do it naturally, but like everything in life it's a lot better with drugs. Remember when the PED lab went down in Miami and employees said Lebron was one of their clients? I have no doubt he's a user. He even stopped using that one year he went back to Cleveland and he showed up at training camp having lost 30 lbs of upper body weight. Then when he wasn't playing well he instantly gained all that muscle mass back. He probably went to "see the doctor in Germany" that Kobe was going to. This stuff is so obvious and in everyone's face and still some fans want to live in La La Land. Unfortunately a lot of success in modern day sports is due to how good your doctors and drugs are.

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    Not suggesting it's the cause of his slow healing, it's the cause of his injury. Too much muscle mass too fast and the body breaks down in the connective tissue area.

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    I wonder if he has sought stem-cell therapy treatments...

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3289928/

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    yes you can do it naturally, but like everything in life it's a lot better with drugs. Remember when the PED lab went down in Miami and employees said Lebron was one of their clients? I have no doubt he's a user. He even stopped using that one year he went back to Cleveland and he showed up at training camp having lost 30 lbs of upper body weight. Then when he wasn't playing well he instantly gained all that muscle mass back. He probably went to "see the doctor in Germany" that Kobe was going to. This stuff is so obvious and in everyone's face and still some fans want to live in La La Land. Unfortunately a lot of success in modern day sports is due to how good your doctors and drugs are.
    I remember the PED lab going down, but I didn't really read much about it. What made the employees say that Lebron was one of their clients? Were they interrogated for info on who they were supplying? Just curious why Lebron's name came up.

    I also remember him losing weight after the 2014 finals. What did Lebron say was the reason for the weight loss back then? I didn't follow him or the Cavs, and how quickly did he put that weight back on? Did he do it during the regular season?

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    If you go back you will see that in interviews an employee named Lebron as a client. Nothing ever happened. When he joined the Cavs he was much smaller, not just lighter, less bulky. When he wasn't playing well he gained the bulk back almost instantly mid-season. Draw your own conclusions.

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    If you go back you will see that in interviews an employee named Lebron as a client. Nothing ever happened. When he joined the Cavs he was much smaller, not just lighter, less bulky. When he wasn't playing well he gained the bulk back almost instantly mid-season. Draw your own conclusions.
    I recall a picture during the off-season where he was slimmer, I thought he gained the weight back before the season started. If he gained it back that quickly in the middle of the season, why did no-one say anything about it? Can you gain it back anywhere near that fast naturally?

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    I recall a picture during the off-season where he was slimmer, I thought he gained the weight back before the season started. If he gained it back that quickly in the middle of the season, why did no-one say anything about it? Can you gain it back anywhere near that fast naturally?
    Cause he's LeBron James and one of the faces of the NBA

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    I recall a picture during the off-season where he was slimmer, I thought he gained the weight back before the season started. If he gained it back that quickly in the middle of the season, why did no-one say anything about it? Can you gain it back anywhere near that fast naturally?
    When Lebron came back to the Cavs he was very skinny at the start of the year. I still remember a game against the Jazz that year where at the end of the game he tried to post up Hayward but didn't have the strength to back him down and had to settle for an ugly jump shot. For the first half of the year he really wasn't himself. I remember he takes a week off and goes down to Miami which I suspect he was going down there to get PEDS. After that week he comes back and starts playing like Miami Lebron again and starts to bulk up rapidly. Lebron is on PEDs but I feel a lot of these guys are on it.

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    When Lebron came back to the Cavs he was very skinny at the start of the year. I still remember a game against the Jazz that year where at the end of the game he tried to post up Hayward but didn't have the strength to back him down and had to settle for an ugly jump shot. For the first half of the year he really wasn't himself. I remember he takes a week off and goes down to Miami which I suspect he was going down there to get PEDS. After that week he comes back and starts playing like Miami Lebron again and starts to bulk up rapidly. Lebron is on PEDs but I feel a lot of these guys are on it.
    Exactly. This was talked about by a lot of people at the time.

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    Now imagine you're a young player like Leonard and the face of the NBA and maybe GOAT is dominating in part because of his PED use. What are you gonna do?

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    Did anyone get anymore info from that Dallas radio host?
    I call BS on the Dallas radio host, and his sauces. If it were severe tendinitis, it would absolutely show up on a scan, MRI and such. Blood is a much different density and consistency than muscle. Sean suffered from this in the 90s, and they were on top of it and fixed his quad. If it weren’t for his kidney issues, he could have played more years than he did. Word is that nothing shows up, hence the mystery.

    He confirmed that was what he reported and stood by he source. He said the part about it being career threatening was speculation.

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    He confirmed that was what he reported and stood by he source. He said the part about it being career threatening was speculation.
    Has the Dallas radio guy (or any other Texas/San Antonio based person) said anything about hearing rumblings that Kawh is not happy with the team beyond issues with the injury mishandling?

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    When Lebron came back to the Cavs he was very skinny at the start of the year. I still remember a game against the Jazz that year where at the end of the game he tried to post up Hayward but didn't have the strength to back him down and had to settle for an ugly jump shot. For the first half of the year he really wasn't himself. I remember he takes a week off and goes down to Miami which I suspect he was going down there to get PEDS. After that week he comes back and starts playing like Miami Lebron again and starts to bulk up rapidly. Lebron is on PEDs but I feel a lot of these guys are on it.
    When Labrick was smaller he was on some kinda diet. It's been posted on sites he was tryna get slimmer because he cramped up against us. He had to much muscle

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    I dunno guys that dallas radio host stands by his and it fits everything else we've been hearing, except the severity of the injury.

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    I recall a picture during the off-season where he was slimmer, I thought he gained the weight back before the season started. If he gained it back that quickly in the middle of the season, why did no-one say anything about it? Can you gain it back anywhere near that fast naturally?
    It was talked about a lot on the forums... No TV channel that has a contact with the NBA would dare to touch the PEDS subject because it can only hurt the NBA brand

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    I remember after that Rockets game last year where Kawhi owned Harden, he had a mandatory "random drug test" after the game.

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    When Labrick was smaller he was on some kinda diet. It's been posted on sites he was tryna get slimmer because he cramped up against us. He had to much muscle
    Cramping is a side effect of steroid use. Therefore, the attempt to get off the juice. Once he saw he needed that strength he got back on. Pretty obvious

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    The reason I bring this up is this might be part of the disconnect with the Spurs doctors. I think these athletes have their own doctors and teams aren't even always aware of what they are doing.

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    Has the Dallas radio guy (or any other Texas/San Antonio based person) said anything about hearing rumblings that Kawh is not happy with the team beyond issues with the injury mishandling?
    I don't know. I never heard the original report or anything after. As far as Miller goes.

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    There is a not tiny possibility that there is real impactful soreness/stiffness that makes playing and workouts painful and hard, but could be played through. That sort of thing is really frustrating because you feel about 65% can play about 85% and have good days and bad days. With amateur sports you just sit till it heals. As the face of a pro basketball franchise you have so much pressure to play. It just lingers and doesn't really get better, and because you aren't right your play suffers. That is the sort of thing that can have you emotionally lashing out in frustration as well. Add in rumours and conspiracy and you feel awfully isolated and friendless.
    You talking like if you knew what's happening. Are you his uncle? When Kawhi talked about this? Or this is you adjudicating numbers randomly?

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    Ok we are grasping at straws but here is what JabARi Young said when he was asked on twitter if he thinks Kawhi will play again this season..

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    The 2001 Lakers weren't looking too good 4/5ths of the way through the season, but they won all their games in April (I think it was 10 in a row) and went into the playoffs on a roll. That is all it took to springboard them to one of the most domination post seasons in NBA history. They don't need to win 10 in a row or anything, but playing well and winning most of their last 10 games or so could get them started.

    If the Spurs can get Kawhi back 100%, and especially if they can somehow hold the 3rd or 4th seed, then I think they'll have a serious chance to do some damage. I think they need a higher seed as home court would help a lot in the first round. A first round series win, even if it's 4-3, could be enough to provide the ignition they need to go on a big run.

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    Ok we are grasping at straws but here is what JabARi Young said when he was asked on twitter if he thinks Kawhi will play again this season..
    Notice how many qualifiers he uses; as if to say, I'm skeptical.

    If there's supposedly still no timetable for his return, then how can whoever told him this not only be sure that he will return, but better than the first 9 games? Those two things don't add up.

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