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It's not the same to have to box out a bigman on the paint than coming free from the perimeter to steal rebounds. If Murray had to battle for rebounds down low he wouldn't average so many rebounds.
Rebounding for guards is more about hops and tenacity. Murray does box guys out, but most of his boards where he does that are against small guards who can't go around or over him, and the ones against bigs really have him hopping in front of guys. I don't think that's a model for Bertans to base his own rebounding game on, though getting better "gang-rebounding" habits in, like tipping balls to teammates rather than catching them or double-teaming an opponent when his teammate is over matched or getting his hands in front of a guy's face so he loses track of the ball could help him. The whole team should do that more often, actually. They did that a lot last year, especially after they committed to going small.
It's not the same to have to box out a bigman on the paint than coming free from the perimeter to steal rebounds. If Murray had to battle for rebounds down low he wouldn't average so many rebounds.
What I see is Bertans actively jumping for the rebound. Before, he would just box out and let the other bigman go for it. I think he was not used to playing pf so he lets the other big guys get the ball. But now he's actively jumping and snatching the ball when he's near the basket
I prefer Bertans starting over White too. White's defense is a probable plus but his lack of outside shooting probably hurts (even though teams seem to actually still guard him). Bertans is shooting 46% on 3'sand is second in the league in tru shooting % he really should be playing more than 19 mpg. Three 40% 3pt shooters around the DDR/LMA pick and pop could be absolutely lethal.
Three elite shooters around DMDR and LMA would be huge for spacing, but it wouldn't be ideal offense. A guy like Bertans simply isn't going to get the touches if he plays that many minutes with the two highest-usage players on the roster. He's arguably the first option on the bench right now. Obviously, nothing's stopping him from getting more run even in that capacity, but if the goal is to get Davis as many touches as possible that should come with at least one of the big dogs on the bench.I prefer Bertans starting over White too. White's defense is a probable plus but his lack of outside shooting probably hurts (even though teams seem to actually still guard him). Bertans is shooting 46% on 3's
This is true. When Bertans subs in in the 1stQ, he usually gets most of the baskets, then later in the game when playing with the starters more - less shots/buckets.
Bertans may not get as many shots as the 4th or 5th option in the SL but his presence would seriously open things up; DeRozen, in particular, is really good at finding Bertans on open looks. I think that there is a middle ground that could be had; something like he starts the 1st 7 minutes of each half and maybe the first four minutes of the 2nd and 4th playing primarily with bench players.
I get the idea behind it but it's still weird that White is already five minutes behind Bertans in total minutes when Bertans is significantly outplaying him.
ST is a pretty mean place. No one is beyond scorn or reproach around here.That's easy to imagine. Half of spurstalk would be like "Green sucks, trade him." And the other half would be like "B-b-but transition defense."
White still plays in garbage time when Davis sits behind Q-Pon and (hopefully only in garbage time) Cunningham.
I like Davis off the bench. That unit is doing pretty well and I would not mess too much with it. If White's shooting issues are only based on confidence instead of incapability, the SL should be doing well on it's own.
I'm glad he is playing better and getting more minutes but the guy is still flawed as a player. I wish he would get more minutes over guys like Forbes and Cunningham though. Forbes is terrible on defense and dies on picks. At least Bertans gives maximum effort. I just wish the guy could get stronger
I think Pop should go to Bertans more in crunch time. If you need a 3 at the end of the game he can basically make that shot from anywhere. Him and Rudy should be the first options for a 3-pointer at the end of games
Which role player isn't flawed as a player? The deadly three pt shooters are usually bad defenders, the good defenders are usually below average on offense, the rim protectors can't shoot, etc.
For a role player, I think Bertans is as complete as it can get, tbh.
My man has to be shooting like 50% from 3 this season.
My man has to be shooting like 50% from 3 this season.He was even better than the stats showed. One of his misses was that end of quarter full court heave.
Davis was 3rd in 3 point % coming into tonight. I think he may be 1 after 5-7 today from 3
Can we get Bertans in the 3 point contest!!!
Beli also has 50 threes in each of his first three seasons with the club.
Danny and/or Kawhi don't have 50+ 3's in their first 3 seasons? I find that hard to believe.
Two guys with allegations against them (albeit very different types) and two guys missing a body part
Danny didn't play much his first year with the Spurs. Leonard only had 41 threes his rookie year.
do you want to play Boban at SF?
Wow Tony on that list would have never thought that.
I read somewhere that Rudy wants to participate this year
You are 100% correct that every role player is flawed. My issue is yes he is a good help defender but overall defensively he has issues due to his slight frame so he is only truly a shooting threat. I like the guys fire and the fact that he isn’t afraid to shoot. He also isn’t a total stiff overall, I just hope he can some how get a little bit stronger to help him with rebounding and defense. If he can do that he will be an even greater role player than he already is.
Kawhi's first year was that shortened lockout season where every team only played 66 games iirc
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