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    This is my concern. We all know LMA doesn't like to play center. Being paired with Pau takes some of that pressure off of him. Also, he and Pau have been working well together in the high-low situations, and those easy buckets keep him going.

    I don't think moving Pau to the bench is the answer...I think finding another big that is not Joffrey ing Lauvergne makes more sense.
    why not plug Bertans in at the 5 like Bonner/Bobo used to with Timmy at the 4

    space it out for Murray and Kawhi to slash, 3 long range threats to throw it out to and get the ball moving. 3 old European tosbs off the bench together

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    Kawhi and LMA sometimes operate in the post, I just think the more spacing, the better chance of getting some ball movement going again. Anderson/Murray out there isn't ideal, as they both tend to either not shoot, or hesitate. Having as much shooting firepower as possible around Kawhi/LMA would open things up much more. Plus I think Anderson's defense would be needed much more with that 2nd unit.
    that's a fair point... second unit with parker/manu/gasol would probably need help

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    why not plug Bertans in at the 5 like Bonner/Bobo used to with Timmy at the 4

    space it out for Murray and Kawhi to slash, 3 long range threats to throw it out to and get the ball moving. 3 old European tosbs off the bench together
    Not sure Bertans can hang with other starting centers. He gets pushed around inside and is a horrible rebounder for his size.

    Bobo at least had the base to root guys out of the paint, and even he wasn't great on the boards.

    Bonner should have never been a starting center.

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    my concerns with Bertans are mostly whether his body can really handle the physicality. He's a strong dude mentally and he competes... but he's really light and gets pushed out of plays on defense often... he really cannot handle contact that much which hurts him rebounding as well.

    Watch this play right here... nice play from the steal by Kyle to the fast break Davis runs ending on a Dejounte dunk.. however, watch at the end how the smallest contact with Lebron sends Davis flying 5 feet. He's having his knee wrapped in the bench and frankly I am not sure how much of the physicality his body can handle. He is really light.

    Here is the play:
    his foot clearly gets tangled, though. keep a close eye on the replay. he got tripped, he didnt get sent flying


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    Also worth noting that Gasol is actually shooting the three better (41.4%) than Bertans (38.4%) right now, albeit on about 1 less attempt per game. He also brings a lot more to the table in other areas (passing, rebounding, etc.)

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    his foot clearly gets tangled, though. keep a close eye on the replay. he got tripped, he didnt get sent flying

    Good catch.. I hadn't seen the replay, but that was just a recent and glaring example... have seen him get pushed out of place enough to know he is very light and that is what affects his rebounding and rim defense. He is getting tested though, so we shall see.

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    Also worth noting that Gasol is actually shooting the three better (41.4%) than Bertans (38.4%) right now, albeit on about 1 less attempt per game. He also brings a lot more to the table in other areas (passing, rebounding, etc.)
    This. For being a shooting specialist, Bertans is not very good. Though he does take a good number of threes several feet behind the line, including (what seems like) quite a few bailout shots when the shot clock is running down.

    Does NBA.com have shot data by distance broken down into just-behind-the-line threes and those further back?

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    This is my concern. We all know LMA doesn't like to play center. Being paired with Pau takes some of that pressure off of him. Also, he and Pau have been working well together in the high-low situations, and those easy buckets keep him going.

    I don't think moving Pau to the bench is the answer...I think finding another big that is not Joffrey ing Lauvergne makes more sense.
    I have been in favor of that too and mentioned it in the trade deadline thread. They really should clear up the guard clutter they have as well.

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    that's a fair point... second unit with parker/manu/gasol would probably need help
    Yea, especially Pau haha. Our 2nd units defense hasn't been great anyway the last few years, so any help there is a plus

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    I think it's worth a try.

    His defense has really improved leaps and bounds. He keeps in front of drivers and stays vertical, and people just miss against him the last month or so.

    He's almost becoming an anti-Bonner. Opponents see him and go right at him probably moreso than they would another player, except they're missing against Bertans.

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    his foot clearly gets tangled, though. keep a close eye on the replay. he got tripped, he didnt get sent flying

    You know what is really disappointing about this clip - nobody went to help Bertans up.

    You were right there Murray, he's your teammate and you're supposed to be leading. Davis did you a favour, effectively screening Lebron out of the play for you to dunk, so go help him up...

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    Not sure Bertans can hang with other starting centers. He gets pushed around inside and is a horrible rebounder for his size.

    Bobo at least had the base to root guys out of the paint, and even he wasn't great on the boards.

    Bonner should have never been a starting center.
    Bertans needs to spend the summer getting a Bobo ass

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    why not plug Bertans in at the 5 like Bonner/Bobo used to with Timmy at the 4

    space it out for Murray and Kawhi to slash, 3 long range threats to throw it out to and get the ball moving. 3 old European tosbs off the bench together
    Boris and Bonner never played the 5 alongside Duncan. C'mon now.

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    Looks like Pop reads ST.

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    This is what happens when you gain confidence through extended playing time.

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    This is what happens when you gain confidence through extended playing time.
    on the other hand he's down below 38% from 3 and is passing up 3's

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    Davis showing he's not a one trick pony. Just 1/6 shooting from 3 but showing other things.

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    on the other hand he's down below 38% from 3 and is passing up 3's
    He will get some 5/7 games soon enough to get his % back to normal.

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    Davis showing he's not a one trick pony. Just 1/6 shooting from 3 but showing other things.
    This is true..it's tough to judge these role players in that regard when this team struggles to create looks with its lack of creators(even worse with Kawhi out), though..

    This isn't Houston, where their role players shoot 10 wide open 3s per game

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    This is true..it's tough to judge these role players in that regard when this team struggles to create looks with its lack of creators(even worse with Kawhi out), though..

    This isn't Houston, where their role players shoot 10 wide open 3s per game
    When has kl been a playmaker?

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    When has kl been a playmaker?
    He isn't great, but at least he draws attention from the opposing defense..the hope was that he was going to continue growing in that area as he matured, this season could have been another leap..

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    Davis showing he's not a one trick pony. Just 1/6 shooting from 3 but showing other things.
    Yup I think they must have told him not to settle for the 3 so much tspecially if his shot is going to be contested with a guy nearby. He’s fearless taking those shots that’s what he has to be guarded closely but at the same time his shooting % was suffering. I think him being more aggressive getting to the rim is per the coaches request. It has worked out quite well. His hooting hopefully bounces back with better shot selection. I hope he doesn’t develop Danny’s yips though.

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    To want him to start taking it to the rim he is able to score or make a easy pass to set someone to score. In the beginning I think all they told him was to focus on defense and then he got better and started to hit the threes now I think they telling him they want to see his mid range game. The good thing is he is getting consistent minutes and like Mus he is also is getting better

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    What the heck, it worked with DJ.

    He's the other promising guy we have to save our near future. Besides that it makes sense to start him for the following reasons:

    -Shooting. The current starting lineup (Murray, Green, Anderson, Aldridge, Gasol) only has one high volume three point shooter: Danny. Switching Bertans for Gasol would bring more balance to the SL on that regard.

    -A more rational rotation. The only two true bigmam worth a are Gasol and Aldridge. Splitting them up will help keep the rotations reasonable and avoid playing Lauvergne.

    -Offense in general. That's were we are most hurting and metrics wise Bertans is one of our best offensive players. Having him play more should help us there.

    -Anderson and Dejounte can make up for Bertans' lack of rebounding.

    -Keep shaking things up and prepare for the future.
    As others, am sure, have mentioned, DJ plays better defense than the man he is replacing and is a much better rebounder. I am not sure you can say either for Dedmon. His rebounding sucks! It's actually worse than DJ's teams gets second and third opportunities with him on the court, and there are games when he goes cold from the 3 point line. And if he does that, there is no way we win. And if he doesn't, better hope the other team does not abuse us on the boards. I know he is getting better on defense, but he is not there yet and definetely not at Dejounte's level, so PLEASE do not compare the two. They are very different players!

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    This is what happens when you gain confidence through extended playing time.
    he probably read ST, and saw that it was being compared to rubbish as Bonner

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