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    "We don't need Bertans cause he sucks on defense"

    Imagine saying this when Bellini and Mills play major minutes on this team. ing re ed sniffers

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    Bertans with 32 and 9 in 30 mins on 8-12 from 3. Lol we gave this dude up for nothing
    The rest of the Wiz went 3 for 23 on threes, and that killed them.

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    The one thing nobody can get around is that Bert is shooting .452 from 3P, on 8.5 attempts per game. His team isn't putting the ball through the rim for him. Is it a fluke? Is he more motivated? Or just being used more effectively?

    Nah - two things nobody can get around. The other is that we have ing Belinelli, who managed to improve his 3P% to .333 with a single 4-5 performance, because his volume has been so low. Bertans would probably only be getting 3.0 attempts if he was on this team. Maybe less, because he's be sharing minutes with Beli.

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    Damn this hurts to watch.

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    He would be useful but he gone.

    Now what?

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    Pop just could not figure out how to use Davis effectively.
    But that’s Davis’ fault.

    -sniffer

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    He would be useful but he gone.

    Now what?

    LOL. Hard to argue with. This season, now nothing.

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    But that’s Davis’ fault.

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    Never mind

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    I wasn’t directing that at you specifically. I agree with your comment.

    I’m saying the sniffers are going out of their way in this thread to say Bertans going 8/12 would be useless to the Spurs because he doesn’t play defense.

    So many players on this roster can’t play defense. But we know Pop ain’t trading culture Patty, or his little engine that could Forbes. They can’t rebound, they can’t run a fast break, they can’t block shots. They also can’t shoot like Bertans and aren’t big enough to get their shot off against pretty much anyone. But Bertans had to go because of his defense and rebound issues, even though Pop was playing him out of position.

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    I wasn’t directing that at you specifically. I agree with your comment.

    I’m saying the sniffers are going out of their way in this thread to say Bertans going 8/12 would be useless to the Spurs because he doesn’t play defense.

    So many players on this roster can’t play defense. But we know Pop ain’t trading culture Patty, or his little engine that could Forbes. They can’t rebound, they can’t run a fast break, they can’t block shots. They also can’t shoot like Bertans and aren’t big enough to get their shot off against pretty much anyone. But Bertans had to go because of his defense and rebound issues, even though Pop was playing him out of position.
    Uz I originally protested being called a sniffer but when I figured out the ~ I edited
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    Too bad Davis and Pop could not figure out how to be effective. I think Davis as SF was the answer.

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    Morris was supposed to be a 15+5 third option guy. Davis is averaging 15,7+4,7 as for now. Well done poop.

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    Uz I originally protested being called a sniffer but when I figured out the ~ I edited
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    Too bad Davis and Pop could not figure out how to be effective. I think Davis as SF was the answer.
    Agreed, playing Davis at SF and DDR back to SG would be better regardless of who the other 3 guys are.

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    probably f.o. thought hey had to choose between Davis and Forbes...and choose the latter. You can't hide everybody on defense and both were and actually are, clear liablities in that sense. The difference, and the reason I preferred Davis over Forbes, is that Davis has some qualities that you can't teach...like lenght. Just for that reason he can be, imho, a volume three point shooter with a high percentage and a more than decent cutter using his advantage over smaller people that use to play the G/SF role...something really valuable in these days and something Forbes probably will never be (volume 3 p shooter) or be able to become (cutter with high percentage) just because, also if his shooting form is perfect, he's not fast enough nor a ball handler enough to overcome his lenght deficit.

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    PATFO traded the wrong spur.

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    probably f.o. thought hey had to choose between Davis and Forbes...and choose the latter. You can't hide everybody on defense and both were and actually are, clear liablities in that sense. The difference, and the reason I preferred Davis over Forbes, is that Davis has some qualities that you can't teach...like lenght. Just for that reason he can be, imho, a volume three point shooter with a high percentage and a more than decent cutter using his advantage over smaller people that use to play the G/SF role...something really valuable in these days and something Forbes probably will never be (volume 3 p shooter) or be able to become (cutter with high percentage) just because, also if his shooting form is perfect, he's not fast enough nor a ball handler enough to overcome his lenght deficit.
    I gotta disagree with you there, the likely reason is the salary of forbes is not enough to sign Carroll. On a more serious note, PATFO probably thought that Carroll could handle the SF and Morris the PF, which turns out to be pretty far away from the actual situation.

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    Nothing like losing the best spot up shooter in the NBA who’s 6’10” for nothing because you wanted to sign a low character individual who ed you over immediately. Good times

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    They got screwed over twice, on the hindside PAFTO should just sign Lyles this past summer and call it done.

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    Dude is having a career year. Doing stepback treys now. Isos. Even hit a fundamental fadeaway 2. Beal is deferring to him in clutch time. Drawing ing double teams in set plays. His name has entered the 6MoY conversation among the senior talking heads.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylHBEYa3Q3g

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    World-class scouting and drafting
    Wasted on-court talent
    Spacing has been an issue since Aldridge became centerpiece
    Midget Bros. and Beli will fix the spacing
    Team doesn't need a 6'10'' sniper in his prime at a cheap contract

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    he would have done it on any team except in the iso aldridge/demar system.

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    It's just been one disaster after another ever since Zaza

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    He would have seen less minutes than Forbes/Patty this year with this coach tbh....

    Happy for him though, he's killing it outside of San Antonio as many predicted and the Wizards aren't even that much worse than the Spurs...

    Washington should get a nice 1st rounder for him this season and Davis should be paid next summer. Meanwhile, the Spurs are probably going to back up the brinks truck for Bryn ing Forbes

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    He would be useful but he gone.

    Now what?
    Now the Spurs organization needs to do a mea culpa and analyze why folks on message boards, that have never been even close to Spurs' practices, have a clearer picture of the capacities of their players (or in this case, ex player) than their HoF coach; so that these mistakes don't repeat themselves in the future.

    We are going kinda through the same thing right now with the overplaying of guys like Forbes, Mills and Bellinelli instead of the bigger ceiling guys like White, Murray and Walker.

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    Among qualified 3pt shooters, the current leaders in 3P%:

    1. .516 George Hill
    3. .484 Marcus Morris
    5. .465 Davis Bertans
    21. .422 Aron Baynes
    29. .416 Patty Mills
    46. .398 Danny Green
    68. .378 JaMychal Greene
    89. .362 Bryn Forbes

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    "We don't need Bertans cause he sucks on defense"

    Imagine saying this when Bellini and Mills play major minutes on this team. ing re ed sniffers
    Now, turn that around for all of the ers pining for Davis, when he's really just a 6'10" no defense playin' version of Forbes.

    We're in the top 10 for Ortg, and the bottom 3 for Drtg. How much would Davis really help?

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