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I'm not swayed by the narrative that the Russian social media bot farm swayed the election.
A candidate with a $1B war chest shouldn't have lost to the most unpopular -- and clearly the most corrupt and unprincipled -- candidate ever.
I don’t see anyone arguing that Russian disinfo isn’t a thing. The point of this thread is to laugh at RandomGuy for not only falling for but feverishly promoting the Russian disinfo disinfo op.
By the way which Russian social media post did you find most influential in terms of swaying voters? I believe the Jesus masturbation meme ranked #1.
I'm not swayed by the narrative that the Russian social media bot farm swayed the election.
A candidate with a $1B war chest shouldn't have lost to the most unpopular -- and clearly the most corrupt and unprincipled -- candidate ever.
the strongest case I've seen so far for the efficacy of Russian disinfo in 2016 is here:
https://global.oup.com/academic/prod...cc=us&lang=en&
Jamieson puts emphasis on the disclosure of HRC's ground game to team Trump in September 2016 and efforts to alienate HRC's supporters -- especially African-Americans.
having some idea in advance where HRC was going to spend money on TV ads and otherwise try to get out the vote, would have been a distinct advantage down the stretch.
Voter suppression is a far more convincing explanation, IMO.
It's not an exaggeration to say that hypertechnical applications of election law scrubbed millions of voters nationwide:
https://www.brennancenter.org/public...eat-right-voteWe found that between 2014 and 2016, states removed almost 16 million voters from the rolls, and every state in the country can and should do more to protect voters from improper purges.
Pootin/Assange with weekly dribble of the emails hurt Hillary's campaign because the media prioritized the emails.
Comey with his national televised press conference that violated FBI protocol about NOT indicting Hillary while trashing her.
Comey finding emails, but not reading them and immediately telling rat er Nunez who immediately went public 10 days before the election caused MI, WI, PA to shift to Trash, Nate Silver, the 3 states that put Trash in the WH.
Hillary was rat ed by Pootin/Assange (was known to Trash's rat ers) and Comey, while Trash ran campaign of lies, hate, xenophobia, racism slurped by AmeriKKKa, esp so-called Christian who love Jesus so much.
a campaign of policies?
a campaign of personal destruction, negative emotions, in America The Beautiful, what our "young military people are dying for" so minority AmeriKKKa can rule
Mike Godwin's FB posts quoting NETWORK PROPAGANDA deliver:
What of the Russian disinfo disinfo disinfo? Would that be thwarted somewhat at least by the Russian disinfo disinfo disinfo disinfo? Where that would go next is anyone's guess..
This tweet punctures both-sidesism and the polarization narrative. The Democratic mainstream is about where it was 25 years ago; Republicans got way more radical.
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Key word is primary. People who name TV as their primary source for news can still be swayed by online news if it's supplementary (vs. conflictive) with the networks they watch. Fox News and Local News may not have amplified online disinfo ops, but they were also the least likely TV sources to contradict them.
I have always agreed that it's an exaggeration to claim the election was decided by disinformation spread in support of Trump, but it certainly had some impact, however small. The changes Facebook made impacting "news" sites from both sides are a net positive for the public, IMO.
You didn't read the link in Greenwalds post, did you?
That's funny.
I did and it doesn't change the fact that you were duped by Russian disinfo disinfo.
You didn't read the link in Greenwalds post, did you?
That's funny.
Pretty much. I am at the point where "if they are going to accuse us of being socialists/communists no matter how centrist we are, may as well stop trying to play for the center". I doubt I am alone.
The irony that the rightward lunge by the Trump party is providing political maneuver room for the the thing they hate most.
Grasping at straws, dude is sad. really really sad.
Any excuse to dismiss evidence of Russian actions to benefit your Dear Leader.
You do know this is exactly what creationists do with evidence of evolution, Cosmored does with evidence of moon landings, and flat earthers do with evidence of round earth, right?
At some point, the dam will break. GOP is desperately trying to backstop their demographic implosion, doubling down on white protestant evangelicals. Not really a long term strategy.
Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed
https://www.politico.com/amp/story/2...witter-1353543
Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.
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https://www.symantec.com/blogs/threa...disinformation
Key Findings
The operation was carefully planned, with accounts often registered months before they were used – and well in advance of the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The average time between account creation and first tweet was 177 days.
A core group of main accounts was used to push out new content. These were often ”fake news” outlets masquerading as regional news outlets or pretended to be political organizations.
A much larger pool of auxiliary accounts was used to amplify messages pushed out by the main accounts. These usually pretended to be individuals.
The campaign directed propaganda at both sides of the liberal/conservative political divide in the U.S., in particular the more disaffected elements of both camps.
Most accounts were primarily automated, but they would frequently show signs of manual intervention, such as posting original content or slightly changing the wording of reposted contented, presumably in an attempt to make them appear more authentic and reduce the risk of their deletion. Fake news accounts were set up to monitor blog activity and automatically push new blog posts to Twitter. Auxiliary accounts were configured to retweet content pushed out by the main accounts.
The most retweeted account garnered over 6 million retweets. Only a small fraction (1,850) of those retweets came from other accounts within the dataset, meaning many of the retweets could have come from genuine Twitter users.
#ReleaseTheMemo also being pushed by russian bots.
TSA taking instant Ls tonight.
They are a useful tool for seeing how social media operations are tied into other Russian Propaganda.
The only thing really funny here is that you think your weak sauce criticisms are somehow better than they are.
TSA with no verbalizable take on his own post, very common.
TSA bot activated.
Sorry. I'm laughing my ing ass off at RandomGuy and Reck's takes on Hamilton68. That better you whiny little ?
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Huh? 25 years ago Clinton was working with Gramm and was economically and socially a neocon. Hillary was spouting fear of large black men rhetoric while stumping for said bill. SCOTUS nominations are one thing sure but as for actually democratic policy and policy pushes this take is ignorant.
TSA trying to claim major victory after plainly stating that Hillary Clinton smuggled in Haitian babies to eat them.
FFS Warren, Sanders, and AOC are democratic leadership nowadays either ins utionally or in the narrative. There was no analog 25 years ago.
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