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    The problem is the users more so than the suppliers. The Reagan administration only tried to stomp out all the suppliers, but the real way to give such an initiative teeth is to go after the users... mandatory 15 year hard sentence for using, no exceptions for anyone 18+.

    If a business doesn't have a customer base, it can't operate... basic economics?

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    The problem is the users more so than the suppliers. The Reagan administration only tried to stomp out all the suppliers, but the real way to give such an initiative teeth is to go after the users... mandatory 15 year hard sentence for using, no exceptions for anyone 18+.

    If a business doesn't have a customer base, it can't operate... basic economics?
    you're an idiot

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    The problem is the users more so than the suppliers. The Reagan administration only tried to stomp out all the suppliers, but the real way to give such an initiative teeth is to go after the users... mandatory 15 year hard sentence for using, no exceptions for anyone 18+.

    If a business doesn't have a customer base, it can't operate... basic economics?
    Duterte, is that you?

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    Duterte, is that you?
    He's right though. Either you have a laissez faire stance or drugs or you have a Duterte stance. Those are the only 2 ways that make sense. Anything in the middle is folly, useless, expensive, circular and never-ending.

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    OxyContin Maker Settles Opioid Crisis Lawsuit With Oklahoma For $270 Million

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/o...+%28TPMNews%29

    Repug hole OK keeps the money, victims' families get nothing


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    Doctor Who Championed Opioids for Years Flips on Pharma Ghouls to Save His Own Ass




    A doctor who was an early advocate for the use of opioids for the treatment chronic pain now says pharmaceutical companies pushing opioids have created an epidemic—one that kills tens of thousands of Americans each year.

    Of course, he’s doing it to get out of being sued.

    About a decade ago, Dr. Russell Portenoy was one of the leading voices supporting the use of opioids.

    Portenoy was, as he claims, shilling for opioid makers. But during his pro-Opioid days, in a 2008 Q&A with Health.com, he responded to question about whether opioids should be a “last resort” by saying,

    “No. Opioids should be considered for every patient with chronic, moderate to severe pain...”

    “There is a growing literature showing that these drugs can be used for a long time, with few side effects.”

    Portenoy has referred to opioids as a“gift from nature” that needs to be destigmatized, due to “opiophobia.”

    Portenoy also spoke in videos and at conferences paid for by opioid manufacturers,

    pharmaceutical companies compensated Portenoy during the years when he was speaking out against “opiophobia.”

    he was having “second thoughts.

    “I gave innumerable lectures in the late 1980s and ‘90s about addiction that weren’t true.” but LUCRATIVE

    https://gizmodo.com/doctor-who-champ...rma-1833894797

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    Opioid Epidemic May Have Cost U.S. Governments $37.8 Billion In Tax Revenue

    The opioid epidemic may have cost U.S. state and federal governments up to $37.8 billion in lost tax revenue due to opioid-related employment loss, according to Penn State researchers.

    Additionally, the researchers found that Pennsylvania was one of the states with the most lost revenue, with approximately $638.2 million lost to income and sales tax. The study looked at data between 2000 and 2016.

    estimated that in 2016 there were nearly 2.1 million Americans with an opioid use disorder, and approximately

    64,000 deaths were the result of an opioid overdose.

    there were 2,235 opioid-related overdose deaths*** in Pennsylvania alone.


    t from 2000 to 2016, there was an estimated

    decline of 1.6 million participants in the labor force,

    with about 68,000 of those in Pennsylvania.

    There were about 180,000 overdose deaths, with approximately 6,100 occurring in Pennsylvania.


    Additionally, the researchers estimated losses of $11.8 billion to state governments and $26 billion to the federal government in tax revenue due to reductions in the labor force.

    For state governments, this included lost sales tax and income tax revenue. Losses to the federal government were entirely due to lost income tax revenue.

    https://scienceblog.com/507281/opioid-epidemic-may-have-cost-u-s-governments-37-8-billion-in-tax-revenue/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campai gn=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28ScienceBlog.com%2 9



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    Trump Administration goes after harm reduction in Philly and Seattle:

    Two major U.S. cities are trying to open facilities to save drug users’ lives, but the Trump administration is trying to stop them, arguing the facilities are no different than crack houses.

    Seattle and Philadelphia plan to curb overdose deaths by opening facilities where drug users can ingest illicit substances like heroin under medical supervision. So-called overdose prevention sites are part of a strategy that seeks to reduce harm from drug use. The facilities were first popularized in Western Europe and have made their way to Canada and now potentially the U.S. While controversial and seemingly counterintuitive, over 100 such facilities currently operate in several countries, and public health experts consider them a staple of a robust strategy to prevent overdoses. Even Vice President Mike Pence, when he was Indiana’s governor during an HIV outbreak, implemented a similar program to distribute fresh syringes to prevent new infections.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...s-crack-houses

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    Trump Emphasizes Faith-Based Initiatives in Fighting Opioid Crisis

    Trump highlighted faith-based initiatives as a major part in the administration’s efforts to resolve the epidemic of opioid abuse in the country,

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-emphasizes-faith-based-initiatives-in-fighting-opioid-crisis_2893451.html

    Thoughts and Prayers, like the Drug War, NEVER fail, and they are free, a lot cheaper than the govt getting organized, funded, staffed to help drug abusers.



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    Trump says he is holding big Pharma accountable in opioid fight

    “We are holding big Pharma accountable,” Trump said at the Rx Drug Abuse and Heroin Summit in Atlanta.

    Deaths from opioid overdose in the United States jumped 17 percent in 2017 from a year earlier to more than 49,000 according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
    Deaths from potent synthetic opioids like fentanyl surged 45 percent in that time,

    U.S. health officials said they will spend $350 million in four states to study ways to best deal with the opioid crisis on the local level,

    Trump’s remarks that his


    proposed Medicaid cuts and efforts to overturn the Affordable Care Act, popularly known as Obamacare, could make the opioid problem worse.


    Trump has used the crisis to support his call for building a wall on the border with Mexico,

    saying it would help keep out heroin and other illegal drugs and curb the crisis.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-opioids/trump-says-he-is-holding-big-pharma-accountable-in-opioid-fight-idUSKCN1S016A?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_so urce=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed% 3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F+US+%2F+Top+News%2 9



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    Following opioid suits, family behind deadly OxyContin squabbles

    will need to agree among themselves how much to pay.

    U.S. communities are seeking billions of dollars in damages to address harm from opioids, and

    settlement discussions will help determine how much money they get.


    The lawsuits, which in recent months have targeted the Sacklers in addition to Purdue,

    claim the family and company contributed to a public health crisis that claimed the lives of nearly 400,000 people between 1999 and 2017,

    "we did not cause this complex public health crisis. "

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-p...-idUSKCN1SG1P7

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    FIGHTING FENTANYL

    Trump called the opioid epidemic a priority, but fentanyl deaths soar as resources fail to keep pace

    “Treatment is where we need help. We keep hearing that money is coming, but we haven’t really seen it.”

    The inmates here are at least alive — unlike so many drug users in this part of central Ohio, 40 miles southwest of Columbus.

    Fayette County has the seventh-highest number of fentanyl overdose deaths per capita in the nation

    people in communities across the country continue to die in record numbers from fentanyl, and

    health officials are struggling to provide treatment for tens of thousands more, like the men and women warehoused inside this jail.

    health policy experts say drug treatment funding is not nearly enough,

    and the administration’s response was hobbled by the

    failure to appoint a drug czar in its chaotic first year and

    confusion over who was in charge of drug policy.

    The depth of the problem continues to overwhelm the government’s response, and

    the administration has yet to produce a comprehensive strategy that is legally required by Congress.

    the Trump administration is still struggling to confront the deadliest drug crisis in U.S. history and

    is not dedicating nearly enough federal resources.

    “What other threat that is preventable is going to kill tens of thousands of Americans?” Walters said.

    “We’re spending much more money on terrorism, as we should, but

    we’re not spending a similar amount on the source of death to many more Americans right now.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/national/fentanyl-epidemic-trump-administration/?utm_term=.6269727d5e70&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

    Fetanyl was invented in China, and China is a big supplier to USA


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    s bag BigPharma

    Opening statements show pharma giant intends to shame addicts in first opioid trial

    Johnson & Johnson used a video they did to show the personal responsibility of children who take prescription drugs recreationally.

    The narrative J&J is pushing harkens back to an era of

    labeling drug addicts as bad people who clearly did something bad and now must face the consequences.

    the state compared J&J to Purdue Pharma, the creator of oxycontin/oxycodone, and using an aggressive marketing strategy to encourage doctors, surgeons, nurses and more medical professionals to use opioids, claiming they’re safe.

    J&J attorneys explained that they don’t market opioids to children or any minors. They’re right,

    what they did was
    encourage doctors to prescribe opioids to young people as part of a campaign around Spring Break.

    “For sprains and strains,” opioids could be given to youth, J&J argued.

    big pharma suggests that like cigarettes, no one ever forced people to use opioids.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2019/05/opening-statements-show-pharma-giant-intends-to-shame-addicts-in-first-opioid-trial/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29


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    400,000 dead

    “WE DIDN’T CAUSE THE CRISIS”: DAVID SACKLER PLEADS HIS CASE ON THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC




    Since OxyContin came on the market in 1996,

    more than 400,000 Americans have died from opioid overdoses—

    including some 200,000 from prescription versions of the drug.

    Millions more continue to struggle with addiction, and

    entire communities have been devastated by the epidemic.

    A lawsuit filed by Massachusetts—the first to name the Sacklers—

    paints a picture of an almost impossibly venal family who continued to push sales of longer-lasting, higher-dose prescriptions of OxyContin long

    after it was clear that both increase the risk for addiction.

    Since 2008, the Sacklers have made $4 billion from Purdue,

    most of it in the form of profits from opioids.

    “Eight people in a single family,” the Massachusetts suit alleges, “made the choices that caused much of the opioid epidemic.”

    Between 1991 and 1997, the number of opioid prescriptions increased from 76 million to 97 million.

    But Purdue went all-out to sell OxyContin, which consisted of a pure concentration of oxycodone, to doctors and consumers:

    In its first six years on the market, according to the General Accounting Office, Purdue spent up to 12 times more promoting OxyContin than it had MS Contin.

    “They were pushing this just as this patient-centered culture around pain came into vogue, and providers were more hesitant to deny people prescriptions.”

    In the five years after OxyContin came on the market, the annual number of prescriptions soared from 670,000 to more than 6 million.

    Sales of the drug, meanwhile, rocketed to more than $1 billion.

    the marketing claim, endorsed by the Food and Drug Administration, that OxyContin was less prone to abuse because of its extended-release formula.

    In fact, the timed-release tablets turned out to be more prone to abuse, in part because they packed more opioids into each pill. T

    he inconvenient truth, as the FDA noted in 2010, was that

    “the risk for misuse and abuse is greater” for extended-release opioids.

    claim—that less than 1 percent of patients taking OxyContin would become addicted—was based not on a peer-reviewed study, but on

    a five- sentence letter to The New England Journal of Medicine published in January 1980.

    drug companies misrepresented [the claim] in their marketing campaigns pushing opioids as non-addictive.

    the Ins ute of Medicine at the National Academy of Sciences, considered the risk for addiction to be very minimal.

    “Narcotic addiction,” the textbook states flatly, “occurs rarely, or not at all, in patients receiving narcotics for medical use.”

    the evidence that Sackler cites does not appear to be supported by any truly substantive science.

    Some of the material, in fact, is sourced to the original letter from The New England Journal of Medicine.

    A recent study found that the letter has been cited more than 600 times by other scholars—a widespread pattern of “inaccurate citation”

    that “contributed to the North American opioid crisis.”

    “Just about anyone who takes opioids for long enough, and at high enough doses, can get addicted,”

    the debate over the precise level of addiction rates obscures a broader truth: OxyContin is a so-called Schedule II drug, which means that it is known to have a “high potential for abuse.”

    The FDA, for its part, acknowledges that it contributed to the epidemic.

    the scope of the epidemic reflects many past mistakes and many parties who missed opportunities to stem the crisis, including the FDA.” non-intervention in the free market

    Aggressively marketing the drug as not addictive and then saying we warned you it’s addictive is a very dark version of trying to have your cake and eat it too.

    if you understand that some percentage of patients are going to get addicted, then by definition

    you understand that the more pills you sell, the more addiction there’s going to be.

    And there were a lot more pills.

    Instead of trying to limit the supply,

    Purdue pushed hard to expand it.

    From 1996 to 2000, according to the General Accounting Office, the company

    more than doubled its internal sales force,

    recruited and trained more than 5,000 doctors, pharmacists, and nurses to help tout the benefits of OxyContin,

    handed out free 30-day prescriptions to new patients, and

    targeted its marketing efforts to doctors who were the highest prescribers of opioids.


    United States, which represents less than 5 percent of the world’s population, was consuming more than 80 percent of the world’s opioids.

    One thing the company did was place much of the responsibility for the crisis not on the drug itself, but on its users.

    “They are the culprits and the problem. They are reckless criminals.”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/06/david-sackler-pleads-his-case-on-the-opioid-epidemic?mbid=nl_th_5d0814a076711f06de7fe700&CNDID =43758549&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=vf&utm_mailing=V F_Hive_061919&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c 1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&hasha=992d608214b505003a a04bf10a595031&hashb=542eb31d958e85ddd5a4c3ccf3faa e18526a77bd&hashc=54b3612ab970ce13a64a16665b198708 0ca5b72e2ee762b722fbba6ab378f2f5&esrc=bounceX&utm_ campaign=VF_Hive_061919&utm_term=VYF_Hive&verso=tr ue

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    Just another way America is ing itself

    76 billion opioid pills:

    Newly released federal data unmasks the epidemic

    America’s largest drug companies saturated the country with 76 billion oxycodone and hydrocodone pain pills from 2006 through 2012 as the nation’s deadliest drug epidemic spun out of control,

    Just six companies distributed 75 percent of the pills during this period:
    McKesson Corp.,
    Walgreens,
    Cardinal Health,
    AmerisourceBergen,
    CVS and
    Walmart

    Three companies manufactured 88 percent of the opioids:
    SpecGx, a subsidiary of Mallinckrodt;
    #Actavis Pharma; and
    Par Pharmaceutical, a subsidiary of Endo Pharmaceuticals.

    Purdue Pharma, which the plaintiffs allege sparked the epidemic in the 1990s with its introduction of OxyContin, its version of oxycodone, was ranked fourth among manufacturers with about 3 percent of the market.

    The volume of the pills handled by the companies skyrocketed as the epidemic surged,

    increasing about 51 percent from 8.4 billion in 2006 to 12.6 billion in 2012.

    The database reveals

    what each company knew about the number of pills it was shipping and dispensing and

    precisely when they were aware of those volumes,

    year by year,

    town by town.

    In case after case, the companies allowed the drugs to reach the streets of communities large and small,

    despite persistent red flags that those pills were being sold in apparent violation of federal law

    and diverted to the black market, according to the lawsuits.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/76-billion-opioid-pills-newly-released-federal-data-unmasks-the-epidemic/2019/07/16/5f29fd62-a73e-11e9-86dd-d7f0e60391e9_story.html?utm_term=.24fe9627339c&wpi src=nl_most&wpmm=1

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    I'm in the midst of an opiod crisis myself. I've no more Vicodin. FML.

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    “WE DIDN’T CAUSE THE CRISIS”


    "It was always burnin' since the world's been turnin'"

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    "It was always burnin' since the world's been turnin'"
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    People Are Overdosing on Wasp Spray in West Virginia

    Several people in a county in West Virginia recently overdosed from wasp spray, which they used as an alternative to
    methamphetamine,

    Police in Boone County say they've seen a rise in residents abusing wasp spray to achieve a meth-like high

    "People are making a synthetic type [of] methamphetamine out of wasp spray,"

    The practice is known as "wasping," and it has emerged as a concerning drug trend in recent years,

    People can crystallize the spray liquid on hot metal sheets, which allows the substance to be inhaled or injected,

    Bug sprays contain active ingredients called pyrethroids, which stun and kill insects; but in humans, the chemicals can interfere with nerve signaling, which can lead to abnormal sensations, and in some cases, seizures or paralysis

    The chemicals can also lead to increased heart rate, difficulty breathing, headache, nausea, problems with coordination, and swelling and burning sensations.

    https://www.livescience.com/65954-wasp-spray-overdose-meth.html?utm_source=ls-newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20190717-ls


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    Drilling into the DEA’s pain pill database

    For the first time, a database maintained by the Drug Enforcement Administration that tracks the path of every single pain pill sold in the United States — by manufacturers and distributors to pharmacies in every town and city — has been made public.

    <interactive map by county, pills per person>

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/investigations/dea-pain-pill-database/?utm_term=.6ea1a3a99613&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

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    Internal drug company emails show indifference to opioid epidemic

    Victor Borelli, a national account manager for Mallinckrodt, told Steve Cochrane, the vice president of sales for KeySource Medical, to check his inventories and

    “if you are low, order more.

    If you are okay, order a little more, Capesce?”


    Then Borelli joked, “destroy this email. . .Is that really possible? Oh Well. . .”


    Previously, Borelli used the phrase “ship, ship, ship” to describe his job.

    the companies had inundated the nation with 76 billion oxycodone and hydrocodone pills from 2006 through 2012.

    some drug company employees as driven by profits

    and undeterred by the knowledge that their products were wreaking havoc across the country.

    “Keep ’em comin’!” Cochrane responded.

    “Flyin’ out of there.

    It’s like people are addicted to these things or something.

    Oh, wait, people are. . .”

    Borelli responded: “Just like Doritos keep eating. We’ll make more.”


    Borelli and Cochrane did not return calls for comment Friday night.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/inves...nl_most&wpmm=1


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    I'm in the midst of an opiod crisis myself. I've no more Vicodin. FML.
    you're in california, right? find some dispensary that has legit "platinumOG" (strong indica).

    i've never been one for pills and am almost at the point of quitting bud altogether but that strain i mentioned works wonders for sleep and pain. until i found that strain i thought "medical marijuana" was straight bull .

    ps: purple panda(high in CBD) in high dosage edibles works wonders too.

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    Bexar County’s $1 Billion Opioid Suit Set for Trial in 2020

    https://therivardreport.com/bexar-co...eid=54a5432c74

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    The Brazen Way a Chinese Company Pumped Fentanyl Ingredients Into the U.S.

    Yuancheng used an army of young, perky salespeople to peddle illegal chemicals to Americans.

    the two most commonly used fentanyl precursors—think of them as ingredients—are

    chemicals called NPP and 4-ANPP.

    “More is sold to Mexico.”

    This isn’t surprising, since most illicit fentanyl used in America, where
    32,000 people died from fentanyl last year, comes through Mexico.

    Mexican cartels lack trained chemists to make fentanyl from scratch,

    so they buy precursors in bulk from China.

    After that, making finished fentanyl is simple.

    Yuancheng has sold more of the NPP and 4-ANPP used illicitly than any other company.

    It has done so not through secret underground networks or terrorist cells, but over the internet, using an army of young, perky sales representatives.

    Posting cheeky job advertisements on the internet and offering employees free cellphones,

    it’s a poison factory operating in plain sight.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2019/08/chinese-company-helping-fuel-opioid-epidemic/596254/




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    Fentanyl is of course synthetic

    Synthetic Drugs Will Change the Global Drug Trade Forever


    Drug traffickers thrive on their ability to penetrate national borders,

    but a new era of toxic, man-made highs could dissolve those boundaries and transform the global drug trade.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g...ampaign_747513



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