School shooting: Parkland, Florida

Originally Posted by koriwhat

must suck to be scared constantly.

Says the side clinging to their guns

Originally Posted by pgardn

Hey, hey now!

What about the X and the ^

lol

Originally Posted by DisAsTerBot

Says the side clinging to their guns

i don't own a gun atm. however, i don't agree they should be banned/outlawed. it's just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

Chris

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-6.xls

when it comes to justified homicides with guns, 272 in 2015, 276 in 2016

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...ta-table-4.xls

when it comes to murders using guns, 9,778 in 2015, 11,004 in 2016

What about bad guys that got shot but didn't die. Are those included in the stats? I appreciate you digging this up tbh

i mean the numbers are there for everybody to see. we see murder rates in other western countries (lol holding our standard to "being better than el salvador and honduras). we see that we are an outlier.

it just comes down to "yer not taken muh guns"

Originally Posted by Chucho

Social media is a major reason this generation is birthing so many loons.

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

Originally Posted by Chris

What about bad guys that got shot but didn't die. Are those included in the stats? I appreciate you digging this up tbh

that's a good question. but then we should also look at all the good guys that got shot but didn't die (scalise, etc).

just given the stats on the killings, pretty hard-pressed to believe we'd find the polar opposite results in non-lethal shootings tbh

Originally Posted by DisAsTerBot

Says the side clinging to their guns

Originally Posted by spurraider21

i mean the numbers are there for everybody to see. we see murder rates in other western countries (lol holding our standard to "being better than el salvador and honduras). we see that we are an outlier.

it just comes down to "yer not taken muh guns"

now in those stats of yours, how many are legal citizens?

Originally Posted by Chris

What about bad guys that got shot but didn't die. Are those included in the stats? I appreciate you digging this up tbh

do my work form me

Originally Posted by koriwhat

now in those stats of yours, how many are legal citizens?

none of them tbh

all are border jumpers 100%

Originally Posted by koriwhat

now in those stats of yours, how many are legal citizens?

do my work for me


What a bunch of en led whiners.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

i mean the numbers are there for everybody to see. we see murder rates in other western countries (lol holding our standard to "being better than el salvador and honduras). we see that we are an outlier.

it just comes down to "yer not taken muh guns"

Actually, that is what it comes down to. There is this inconvenient little thing called a cons ution.

Originally Posted by Chucho

LOL, white flag. No need to explain why you're original post totally whiffed and missed my point beyond "you're an idiot".

Thats all you said tbqh. That you are an idiot.

Gotcha

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

Actually, that is what it comes down to. There is this inconvenient little thing called a cons ution.

except i've never advocated for mandatory confiscation of all guns.

we had a federal ban on "assault weapons" for a while, that wasn't deemed uncons utional

Love discussing hypotheticals about preventing gun massacres when we have actual examples of effective policy ins uted in other developed countries.

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

i don't think anyone thinks that... i don't know much about that incident but i have read some of the theories. crisis actors? who knows... who really ing knows what bigGov hides from us. we all speculate but if you want to believe in bigGov 110% then go for it.

Originally Posted by koriwhat

i don't think anyone thinks that... i don't know much about that incident but i have read some of the theories. crisis actors? who knows... who really ing knows what bigGov hides from us. we all speculate but if you want to believe in bigGov 110% then go for it.

Do a search for "crisis actor" in this forum.

Originally Posted by spurraider21

except i've never advocated for mandatory confiscation of all guns.

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

You mean like people who think Sandy Hook was faked in a studio?

Yeah, I didn't say that. My stance was how it was logistically impossible for twig boy to get off all the firing in that amount of time. So, yeah, stick to your Trump Boogeyman and advocating no personal accountability.

Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?

Which guns did he say he was going to take in the first place?

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Which guns did he say he was going to take in the first place?

It was a generic "you guys" for the anti gun crowd.
So chump, which guns do you want to ban?

Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

So chump, which guns do you want to ban?

all of them would be the answer. the dems would love to outlaw them all right away but baby steps always lead to the end game. and the dems have a cult that follows their every word regardless. baaa baaa baaa baaa

Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?

a handgun ban would not pass, thanks to er and McDonald, so that's a moot point unless public opinion becomes so one sided that SCOTUS will bend. don't see that happening tbh. besides, i dont think i would support a universal gun ban even if there was no 2nd amendment

best we could do is ramp regulations, rather than outright bans.

i think the big issue is the sheer availability of guns in the US. we have more per capita than anywhere. nobody even comes close. i would like the idea of having a voluntary gun buyback program, sorta like cash for clunkers. and have the govt destroy those weapons (or sell them to ISIS. jk). find a way to slow production. expanded background checks, mandatory training, and regular mental health evaluations. limit how many rounds a non-vendor can own, etc.