School shooting: Parkland, Florida

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    Pavlov

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy View Post
    It was a generic "you guys" for the anti gun crowd.
    So chump, which guns do you want to ban?
    I understand you're mad about being so completely wrong about Chris Kyle, but building straw men isn't the best way to deal with it.
     
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    Pavlov

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    Quote Originally Posted by koriwhat View Post
    all of them would be the answer. the dems would love to outlaw them all right away but baby steps always lead to the end game. and the dems have a cult that follows their every word regardless. baaa baaa baaa baaa
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlov View Post
    I understand you're mad about being so completely wrong about Chris Kyle, but building straw men isn't the best way to deal with it.
    LOL mad? You flatter yourself dumbass.

    And I asked you a simple question. Its a shame you are too big of a pussy to answer it.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy View Post
    LOL mad? You flatter yourself dumbass.
    You were the one who was completely wrong, so who's really the dumbass?

    And I asked you a simple question. Its a shame you are too big of a pussy to answer it.
    I've already answered this question.

    The answer is none.
     
  5. Chucho

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    Chris Kyle was a liar and a fraud. Sucks that his wife is being dragged through court for defamation, but what can you do when your husband lied about a great man like Jesse Ventura.
     
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    DisAsTerBot

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    Quote Originally Posted by koriwhat View Post
    i don't own a gun atm. however, i don't agree they should be banned/outlawed. it's just ridiculous.
    I do own guns. Several. That’s why you’re ridiculous. Making changes to gun laws doesn’t equal gun ban.
     
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    DisAsTerBot

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy View Post
    BTW the vast majority of the murders you guys keep referring to were done with pistols. You gonna take those too?
    No. The goal is to help reduce mass shootings. Got any other talking points that no one is bringing up?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjv View Post
    maybe he has bone spurs.
    Tendinopathy of the quads tbh
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy View Post
    Actually, that is what it comes down to. There is this inconvenient little thing called a cons ution.
    Quote Originally Posted by some liberal pansy
    If I were writing the Bill of Rights now there wouldn’t be any such thing as the Second Amendment . . . . This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime.
    I guess if you are into fraud.

    Feel free to draw the line from "well regulated militia" to "unlimited right to own guns".
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    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    baseline bum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Celibate View Post
    Wonder who told her to say that


    ??
     
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    koriwhat

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisAsTerBot View Post
    I do own guns. Several. That’s why you’re ridiculous. Making changes to gun laws doesn’t equal gun ban.
    have i once stated that changes to gun laws equate to an all out ban of guns? don't think so... i just see a spade for a spade and the slippery slope is in front of our faces.
    "I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying." -Michael Jordan
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucho View Post
    Yeah, I didn't say that. My stance was how it was logistically impossible for twig boy to get off all the firing in that amount of time. So, yeah, stick to your Trump Boogeyman and advocating no personal accountability.
    Obviously it was. You are wrong, and the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing reality, it doesn't give a what you think. It just is.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    RandomGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy View Post
    This will blow over.
    Until the next school shooting that is.

    How many dead children will it take for this to be a problem you think should address without ruling out some option because of some worship of a chunk of metal?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by spurraider21 View Post
    a handgun ban would not pass, thanks to er and McDonald, so that's a moot point unless public opinion becomes so one sided that SCOTUS will bend. don't see that happening tbh. besides, i dont think i would support a universal gun ban even if there was no 2nd amendment

    best we could do is ramp regulations, rather than outright bans.

    i think the big issue is the sheer availability of guns in the US. we have more per capita than anywhere. nobody even comes close. i would like the idea of having a voluntary gun buyback program, sorta like cash for clunkers. and have the govt destroy those weapons (or sell them to ISIS. jk). find a way to slow production. expanded background checks, mandatory training, and regular mental health evaluations. limit how many rounds a non-vendor can own, etc.
    These kinds of discussions always get weighed down with facts while most of the participants aren't interested in those.
     
  15. Chucho

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    Obviously it was. You are wrong, and the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing reality, it doesn't give a what you think. It just is.
    Kinda like the Russian collusion thing, the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing is, you're angry you're wrong, but reality doesn't give a that you're wrong, but you are. You can fire back the "meddling vs. collusion" semantics and strawman the Manafort and Gates thing, but you're still wrong.

    You're downward spiral into the Trump Boogeyman myth is entertaining tho. A level headed Boots, but just as angry.
     
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    DisAsTerBot

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    Quote Originally Posted by koriwhat View Post
    have i once stated that changes to gun laws equate to an all out ban of guns? don't think so... i just see a spade for a spade and the slippery slope is in front of our faces.
    So any change equals slippery slope to all out ban? You just said Dems want to ban all guns like 5 posts up
     
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    "If I were writing the Bill of Rights now there wouldn’t be any such thing as the Second Amendment . . . . This has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word fraud, on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime."

    --Fully agree.

    Maybe we should stick to its original intent. Everybody should be able to have as many muzzle-loading muskets as they want to.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    RandomGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucho View Post
    Kinda like the Russian collusion thing, the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing is, you're angry you're wrong, but reality doesn't give a that you're wrong, but you are. You can fire back the "meddling vs. collusion" semantics and strawman the Manafort and Gates thing, but you're still wrong.

    You're downward spiral into the Trump Boogeyman myth is entertaining tho. A level headed Boots, but just as angry.
    jeez, you really want to litigate sandy hook here? really?

    That is the ground you want to die on?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    RandomGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blake View Post
    Lol Chucho being a conspiracy nut
    But there’s an understandable answer here as well. A few days after the attack, clarity surrounding the guns finally emerged. Lanza left a shotgun in the car, but he had three other weapons that were brought into the school – a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm (the latter two are handguns). The fourth weapon – the shotgun – was left in the vehicle’s trunk. Carver was correct in making his claim that it was the AR-15 that was responsible for the children’s deaths – a firearm that was not in the trunk as the first video indicates (CNN actually has a great primer on the weapons that expounds upon this in detail).
    Looks like he di have the tools to do what he did.

    Not sure what the confusion is.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    Pavlov

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    jeez, you really want to litigate sandy hook here? really?

    That is the ground you want to die on?
    Hold on.



    Chucho believes there was a second gunman or what?
     
  21. Chucho

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    jeez, you really want to litigate sandy hook here? really?

    That is the ground you want to die on?
    More words in the mouth. I'm telling you how wrong you were.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucho View Post
    Kinda like the Russian collusion thing, the facts support how wrong you are. Tricky thing is, you're angry you're wrong, but reality doesn't give a that you're wrong, but you are. You can fire back the "meddling vs. collusion" semantics and strawman the Manafort and Gates thing, but you're still wrong.

    You're downward spiral into the Trump Boogeyman myth is entertaining tho. A level headed Boots, but just as angry.
    Bit of a strawman.

    At the moment, there isn't really conclusive evidence of any meaningful collusion between Trump campaign and Russia.

    Some definite dumbassery, and I hate to agree with Bannon on anything.

    Sorry.

    Russia did try to with the election, and Trump ain't doing about that. I DO think that Trump is more likely than not in Putin's pocket, but would be more than happy to drop that like a hot potato, if Trump would ing show some spine and stand up to Putin.

    At some level I think Trumps servile behavior towards Trump will be pretty obvious to everybody. Trump will not be president forever.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
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    Blake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Fake
     
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    RandomGuy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chucho View Post
    More words in the mouth. I'm telling you how wrong you were.
    Feel free to flesh that stupidity out.

    What really happened?

    (fires up eyerolling/facepalm memes)
    Quote Originally Posted by TheGreatYacht View Post
    Hitler almost seems like a saint and prophet on this video



    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...16#post9293816

    https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/sho...1#post10047822

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinS View Post
    Just for some perspective, more Americans have died of regular flu this season than the worldwide covid-19 deaths.

    More than double the covid-19 count.
    Quote Originally Posted by ducks View Post
    Game over
    Republicans take the house back and keep senate and whitehouse
    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    2020 US fatality rate should be 8.8 per 1,000 people.

    200-300k by the end of the year on top of that assuming current stats are accurate and model average hits. Split difference. 250k

    +250k.... divide by 330M...

    End of year figure will be around .0096

    There is your testable hypothesis. Substantially less than that, your "correlation" theory of how we are counting predicted it.

    It is just that simple.
     
  25. Chucho

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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy View Post
    Feel free to flesh that stupidity out.

    What really happened?

    (fires up eyerolling/facepalm memes)
    Tell me about your President colluding with the Rooskies, big guy.