School shooting: Parkland, Florida

Originally Posted by DisAsTerBot

So any change equals slippery slope to all out ban? You just said Dems want to ban all guns like 5 posts up

not any change exactly... get down to the facts first before proclaiming guns are the culprit. there's a lot of balls dropped not only on this incident but many many more. our PD & FBI aren't the brightest nor the bravest from what i see.

Originally Posted by Spurminator

Love discussing hypotheticals about preventing gun massacres when we have actual examples of effective policy ins uted in other developed countries.

I know right? Switzerland says "Hallo!"

Switzerland is Europe's gun capital. It has more firepower per person than any other country in the world yet it is said to be one of the safest places on Earth.

Originally Posted by Chucho

Tell me about your President colluding with the Rooskies, big guy.

Already done. See post 1448

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(altnernately I fleshed out the publicly available cir stantial evidence showing Trump is acting in a manner consistent with being compromised)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9287376
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If you want to walk back the Sandy Hook "couldn't have happened the way THEY say it did", that's fine.

Originally Posted by Chris

I know right? Switzerland says "Hallo!"

Don't @ me, piece of . You likely have neither the intellect nor the interest to rationally discuss Swiss vs. US gun policy (to say nothing of mental health care.)

Stick to 4chan memes and Posobiec tweets.

Originally Posted by RandomGuy

Already done. See post 1448

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(altnernately I fleshed out the publicly available cir stantial evidence showing Trump is acting in a manner consistent with being compromised)
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...=1#post9287376
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If you want to walk back the Sandy Hook "couldn't have happened the way THEY say it did", that's fine.

But you're wrong.

Originally Posted by Chris

I know right? Switzerland says "Hallo!"

Where do they keep the ammo in Switzerland, Chris?

Originally Posted by Spurminator

Don't @ me, piece of . You likely have neither the intellect nor the interest to rationally discuss Swiss vs. US gun policy (to say nothing of mental health care.)

Stick to 4chan memes and Posobiec tweets.

Looks like someone got triggered by a truth nuke. Sorry for shattering your argument into pieces. Have a nice day.

Originally Posted by Spurminator

Don't @ me, piece of . You likely have neither the intellect nor the interest to rationally discuss Swiss vs. US gun policy (to say nothing of mental health care.)

Stick to 4chan memes and Posobiec tweets.

We aren't comparable to the Swiss. We are 60 times larger and have more unemployed, non contributors than the entire population of that country. We couldn't bare their tax rates, work ethic or nationalism.

Originally Posted by Chucho

But you're wrong.

about there not being any substantive evidence of collusion yet? or you being too stupid to fall for conspiracy theories?

Second person accuses CNN of trying to direct the narrative at gun town hall

"The producer insinuated to me they were looking for people to espouse a certain narrative, which was taking the tragedy and turning it into a policy debate. And I read that as being a gun control debate," Andrew Klein, whose daughter survived the school shooting, said.

The father of a survivor of last week's school shooting in Parkland, Fla., said Thursday night that a CNN producer “insinuated” to him that the network was looking for people to interview that would “espouse a certain narrative."

Andrew Klein, whose daughter survived the school shooting, told Laura Ingraham on Fox News Thursday that he spoke to a CNN producer the day after the shooting, Feb. 15., and he took away from the conversation that they wanted to interview people that wanted to talk about the “policy implications of what happened in terms of preventing future mass shootings.”

Although he said the producer never mention talking about guns in particular, he did feel they were trying to only present one side of the debate.

“The producer insinuated to me they were looking for people to espouse a certain narrative, which was taking the tragedy and turning it into a policy debate. And I read that as being a gun control debate,” Klein said.

This marks the second time a person with ties to Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School has said CNN tried to direct the narrative of the shootings’ coverage.

The first case, a student claimed CNN provided him with a scripted question to ask during Wednesday’s town hall instead of letting him ask his own question. CNN denied that claim.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/se...rticle/2649903

Originally Posted by Chris

Looks like someone got triggered by a truth nuke. Sorry for shattering your argument into pieces. Have a nice day.

LOL driver by posting.

"insinuated"

wow

Jake Tapper then did a terrible job because he kept reminding everybody this was a discussion, not a debate and to get back on track.

Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy

I corrected that he had a safed gun in a holster and was shot in the back without warning.

The meme is still idiotic.

whiny ass snowflake triggered by a meme. Amazing you never say when Chris posts one.

Originally Posted by monosylab1k

whiny ass snowflake triggered by a meme. Amazing you never say when Chris posts one.

Originally Posted by Chris

Looks like someone got triggered by a truth nuke. Sorry for shattering your argument into pieces. Have a nice day.

Your post was a rebuttal to a point I never made. Again, we all know you lack the capacity for the intellectual back-and-forth required to have a productive conversation about these topics. That's probably why you're susceptible to re ed conspiracy theories. God bless.

Originally Posted by Reck

Jake Tapper then did a terrible job because he kept reminding everybody this was a discussion, not a debate and to get back on track.

He did do a terrible job. I agree.




CNN, Jake Tapper Face Growing Criticism Over ‘Abusive’ Anti-Gun ‘Show Trial’

CNN’s anti-gun town hall event and its left-wing moderator, Jake Tapper, are facing widespread criticism over what many saw as a bullying “show trial.”
Tapper is being singled out for much of the criticism from those who say he remained silent as abusive personal attacks were hurled at Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and NRA spokesperson Dana Loesch. Incredibly, Tapper also remained silent as his audience booed a rape victim.

At the Wednesday night spectacle, those in favor of protecting our Second Amendment civil rights were vastly outnumbered by an audience packed with hostile gun-haters and emotional questioners, including children.

According to various reports, the anti-gun participants were given scripted questions crafted by CNN. The last-place network has denied this by attacking a school shooting victim as a liar. His accusation, however, is credible given CNN’s long and disturbing history of using plants.

Throughout the hour, the audience heckled, howled, and poured derision on Loesch and Rubio. Other than admonishing his audience for calling Loesch a “murderer,” Tapper stood by in silent approval as abuse and personal attacks rained down on his outnumbered guests.

The Media Research Center writes, “Jake Tapper sat back as the wild crowd targeted … Rubio with boos and jeers… The wildest moment allowed by Tapper was when Parkland, Florida student Cameron Kasky smeared the Senator by equating him to the shooter that killed 17 of his classmates. And Tapper thanked him for all of it.”

Specifically, this is what Kasky snarled at Rubio, “Senator Rubio, it’s hard to look at you and not look down the barrel on an AR-15 and not look at Nikolas Cruz[.]”

Tapper then thanked Kasky.

Actor Adam Baldwin was one of many who compared the event to a “show trial.”

Tapper faced even more intense criticism for allowing the 17-year-old Kasky to bring Loesch’s children into the debate by attacking her as a mother.

“I wish I could have asked the NRA lady [Loesch] a question,” Kasky said to Rubio. “I would ask her how she can look in the mirror, considering the fact that she has children[.]”

As the crowd burst into cheers, Tapper muttered something about “What was that, I’m sorry?” The crowd roared on.

“Absolutely de able behavior by Parkland student Cameron Kasky … question[ing Loesch’s] motherhood and whether she cares about her children,” tweeted Curtis Houck, managing editor of Newsbusters. “Jake Tapper does nothing. How un-American. Simply unacceptable[.]”

Houck attached video of the moment to his tweet:

Others chimed in over the left-wing Tapper’s silent approval:

Tapper, who likes to present himself as male feminist, also chose to remain silent when the audience booed a rape survivor who now supports the Second Amendment.

Journalist Mike Cernovich compared the night to a “Two Minute Hate,” an event in George Orwell’s “1984” where the elite deflect from their own sins by allowing people to pour out their loathing and hostility on an innocent person or symbol.

Another viewer summed the event up as “abusive.”

CNN and Tapper, a former Democrat operative and Salon contributor, have faced growing criticism over the climate of hate (detailed here) the network frequently manufactures against Trump and his supporters, or anyone on the right — oftentimes through fake news.

For example, although debunked, Tapper continues to spread lies about Trump mocking a reporter’s disability. He also spread fake news with false claim that the president did not offer his condolences after a mosque shooting. While Tapper frequently attacks others over their tone and rhetoric, he does so while ginning up hatre against Trump by smearing the president as “un-American,” “unhinged,” and “unmoored.”

Tapper has yet to apologize for his behavior or to the rape victim, he also has not disavowed Kasky’s personal attacks or the behavior of the audience

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...un-show-trial/

Originally Posted by Chucho

We aren't comparable to the Swiss. We are 60 times larger and have more unemployed, non contributors than the entire population of that country. We couldn't bare their tax rates, work ethic or nationalism.

No argument that we are directly comparable to Switzerland but I'm not sure what unemployment, work ethic, etc. had to do with any of these shootings.

Originally Posted by Trill Clinton

Good job Trill. Mueller and CNN are on their way to investigate.

Originally Posted by Chris

Good job Trill. Mueller and CNN are on their way to investigate.

Originally Posted by Pavlov

Yes, those fatcat teachers need to kill for their students.

They also need to defend themselves. I don't know about you but I'd rather have a gun than pencils, pens, etc to defend myself and my students. Better than waiting how many minutes for cops who might or might not come in until the shooting stops.

Broward County Sheriff Israel is a piece of for going on CNN’s townhall and not telling all those kids yelling at Dana Loesch that 3 of his officers were on scene but did not engage the shooter. CNN is a piece of for putting on that townhall while sitting on that information.

Originally Posted by Spurminator

No argument that we are directly comparable to Switzerland but I'm not sure what unemployment, work ethic, etc. had to do with any of these shootings.

Sorry, should have been specific. It was in response to being able to provide proper/adequate mental health care here like the Swiss does.

Originally Posted by Chucho

Sorry, should have been specific. It was in response to being able to provide proper/adequate mental health care here like the Swiss does.

I'd like to see us try. But the health care debate, like the gun debate, tends to get bogged down in hypotheticals before any detailed policy discussion begins.