School shooting: Parkland, Florida

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    This is actually pretty good



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    I have to agree with CC for the most part. What you are saying is also correct, but has nothing to with deterring mass shootings. These people are looking for notoriety in many cases (but not all). The SA shooter was looking for revenge, but he got his idea probably from the movie "Rampage" as did many of these people. I get the idea of at least saying who the shooter was, but media sites go into long detail about everything this person ever did or said. The victims are probably unknown to anyone here, even by name, but the shooter is famous even if for a ty reason.
    Without googling it, what’s the name of the shooter who gunned down the congregation in the south Texas church, or the dude who shot of the Florida nightclub, or the guy who shot up the Jason Aldene concert? I couldn’t tell you any of them without looking them up. They’re not famous. I know Dylan Roof and James Holmes but that’s because they lived and I followed their trials.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Th'Pusher View Post
    Without googling it, what’s the name of the shooter who gunned down the congregation in the south Texas church, or the dude who shot of the Florida nightclub, or the guy who shot up the Jason Aldene concert? I couldn’t tell you any of them without looking them up. They’re not famous. I know Dylan Roof and James Holmes but that’s because they lived and I followed their trials.
    Nope. the media is to blame for everything.

    Lazy answers are the best answers.

    Case closed.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by monosylab1k View Post
    This is actually pretty good
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCowboy View Post
    The #1 thing they could do to stop mass shootings is to quit publishing the shooters name, photo, and biography from childhood. These sick s want the "glory" that they cant get any other way and we gratefully give it to them.
    Theres no way with 4,000 media outlets plus people would go to wherever the info was a read it there.
    Last edited by AaronY; 02-25-2018 at 01:06 AM.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronY View Post
    Theres no way with 4,000 media outlets plus people would tho to wherever the info was a read it there.
    "To protect the second amendment, we must do away with the first."

    -- ST Patriot Militia
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    I have to agree with CC for the most part. What you are saying is also correct, but has nothing to with deterring mass shootings. These people are looking for notoriety in many cases (but not all). The SA shooter was looking for revenge, but he got his idea probably from the movie "Rampage" as did many of these people. I get the idea of at least saying who the shooter was, but media sites go into long detail about everything this person ever did or said. The victims are probably unknown to anyone here, even by name, but the shooter is famous even if for a ty reason.
    I won't dismiss it outright, but I'd like to see more hard data on that.
     
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    So the only logical thing to do is kill Uwe Boll.
     
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    For a while the media was censored to post caskets of returning dead soldiers too, in order to, largely, quell any anti-war sentiments. Debatable how well that really worked.
     
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    It's bad enough when we know everything we do about a guy like Paddock -- imagine the rumor mongering and bat conspiracies if the general public was not allowed to know his name.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    You gave one weekend, 180 papers, 10 minutes each.

    "she and her husband (Fireman 3 days off and on) are grading papers this weekend! 180 papers to grade. Say it's only 10 minutes per paper, you do the math!"

    If you want to spread that out over several weekends, your point looses any real bite.
    Did I write that?

    What don't you understand about teachers also grading on weekdays as well?

    This, again, shows the ignorance of old white guy who has no clue as to how others might work.
    Keep going, please...
    What was in the bag Walter?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono View Post
    I won't dismiss it outright, but I'd like to see more hard data on that.
    It's difficult to find hard data on any of the suggestions since the shooters are often killed or they off themselves in the process. There's certainly a level of sensationalism tied to mass killings vs any other deaths (like if the same 17 students were killed in a bus accident). The difference then isn't the students, but the shooter. They want to focus on that individual because it sells.

    Is it a coincidence that these events are all basically being carried out by the same types of people, loners with troubled pasts who are also heavily into how cool they look with a firearm? Typically white males with lower middle class upbringing. The Columbine effect, using the term "Trenchcoat Mafia" and having video games that require you to basically go on a shooting spree in malls and such... this has become an industry. You just watch the clock for the next idiot to ring the "I want to be famous, might as well kill everyone I oppose" bell.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgardn View Post
    Did I write that?

    What don't you understand about teachers also grading on weekdays as well?

    This, again, shows the ignorance of old white guy who has no clue as to how others might work.
    Keep going, please...
    Why yes you did Sparky. It's quoted from your post.
     
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    Yeah I've pretty much settled on the notion that you're not playing with a full deck now.
    Yes.

    The student read x(Y) as X times (read as multiplied by) Y ya knuckle head.
    You have again made a fool of yourself.
    Call Bull again Mr. Crutchfield.
    What was in the bag Walter?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlov View Post
    It's bad enough when we know everything we do about a guy like Paddock -- imagine the rumor mongering and bat conspiracies if the general public was not allowed to know his name.
    Bifurcation is your strong suit.

    There's a lot of space between knowing a name and an and endless stream of biography.

    Your flaccid attempt is duly noted though.
     
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    Bifurcation is your strong suit.

    There's a lot of space between knowing a name and an and endless stream of biography.

    Your flaccid attempt is duly noted though.
    OK, tell us how you would want the Paddock case handled in particular.

    Go right ahead. Be specific so I don't get a chance to misrepresent your call to action.
     
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    Yes.

    The student read x(Y) as X times (read as multiplied by) Y ya knuckle head.
    You have again made a fool of yourself.
    Call Bull again Mr. Crutchfield.
    ^I highly doubt anyone here knows what the you're on about.

    You never saw it until you witnessed it. That was rich.

    Do it again, Mr Berra.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavlov View Post
    OK, tell us how you would want the Paddock case handled in particular.

    Go right ahead.
    "The shooter was identified as Stephen Paddock."
    "The shooter was identified as Dylan Roof"

    Instead of

    "This is the 2nd most deaths in a mass shooting event in the US" Followed by a seeding chart of mass shooters

    Notice they don't go into a biography about non-sensational killings.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    The shooter was identified as Stephen Paddock.

    Notice they don't go into a biography about non-sensational killings.
    So how would you stop any other information from being released?
     
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    Why yes you did Sparky. It's quoted from your post.
    You got shat on and now you do the old white shuffle per usual. The weekend, as in you have a lot of time and her husband can help. Do you understand context. Even if you don't, is so stupidly rigid of you and your thoughts. Again, you know exactly what I'm writing and you wanna riggle out.

    What you CALL is useless.
    What was in the bag Walter?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    It's difficult to find hard data on any of the suggestions since the shooters are often killed or they off themselves in the process. There's certainly a level of sensationalism tied to mass killings vs any other deaths (like if the same 17 students were killed in a bus accident). The difference then isn't the students, but the shooter. They want to focus on that individual because it sells.

    Is it a coincidence that these events are all basically being carried out by the same types of people, loners with troubled pasts who are also heavily into how cool they look with a firearm? Typically white males with lower middle class upbringing. The Columbine effect, using the term "Trenchcoat Mafia" and having video games that require you to basically go on a shooting spree in malls and such... this has become an industry. You just watch the clock for the next idiot to ring the "I want to be famous, might as well kill everyone I oppose" bell.
    As far as video games go, that's certainly an area that has been fairly extensively researched and the results come back that they're actually not conducive to that. People can largely distinguish between reality and fiction. It would indicate banning/censoring video games would have minimal impact.

    That's what I mean about hard data. It doesn't matter if the shooter offed himself or got killed, we can certainly have some research on the impact of releasing his full bio and how that affects potential copycats. I haven't seen extensive research about that, but I'd love to see it.
     
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    So how would you stop any other information from being released?
    I didn't blame the police.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgardn View Post
    You got shat on and now you do the old white shuffle per usual. The weekend, as in you have a lot of time and her husband can help. Do you understand context. Even if you don't, is so stupidly rigid of you and your thoughts. Again, you know exactly what I'm writing and you wanna riggle out.

    What you CALL is useless.
    Are you even American?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono View Post
    As far as video games go, that's certainly an area that has been fairly extensively researched and the results come back that they're actually not conducive to that. People can largely distinguish between reality and fiction. It would indicate banning/censoring video games would have minimal impact.

    That's what I mean about hard data. It doesn't matter if the shooter offed himself or got killed, we can certainly have some research on the impact of releasing his full bio and how that affects potential copycats. I haven't seen extensive research about that, but I'd love to see it.
    The research routinely states that mass shootings don't occur frequently enough given the population to make an scientifically sound correlations. However we're speculating.

    It's not about releasing his bio. The term "release" is a neutral offering. The media loops it, they don't "release" it. I suppose the Russians released false information instead of spamming the out of it. If that could sway an election, why can't it sway an already unstable mind?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMC View Post
    ^I highly doubt anyone here knows what the you're on about.

    You never saw it until you witnessed it. That was rich.

    Do it again, Mr Berra.
    Saw it.
    Can you see a lemon in your head? I'm mean picture it in your head?

    Dumbass got snagged.

    Anyone knows what the im going on about?...

    I just posted to a lady who sent me links to math books ya stupid weasel. Just because you wander in to the middle of the movie and ask what's going on, does not mean the intended audience is as lost as you are.
    What was in the bag Walter?