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    Kyle Kuzma, Josh Hart, a future 1st for Kiwi. Take it or leave it.
    Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Two 1st's, prime Shaq, Kareem's retired jersey banner, the Hollywood Sign, Betty White's Star on the Walk of Fame, and the 5 Championship trophies that were won in Minneapolis, and you have yourself a deal.

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    Well, one thing is sure, Kawhi's value isn't increasing these days...

    So Mospurs and Manutres have been saying this for two weeks now.


    I don't remember exactly what Mo’s thread said specifically but Manutres has been claiming this is all a show being dictated by Kawhi’s uncle because he wants him in LA. Not even remotely similar imo
    One of them made a thread saying it was Pop who doesn't want to play Kawhi "until he gets traded or he's committed to the Spurs again." After this Woj article it seems like his "source" was wrong.

    And what's about you Apa?

    You made a thread saying Kawhi has his own trainers but he was working in Manhattan with Spurs trainners before the ASG weekend. Was your "source" wrong, too?

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    ...what a mess.

    Well it was a nice run. Time to head into the dark years.

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    our season could well hinge on gay now

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    I don't remember exactly what Mo’s thread said specifically but Manutres has been claiming this is all a show being dictated by Kawhi’s uncle because he wants him in LA. Not even remotely similar imo
    If you keep reading the thread, I also mention how Uncle Robertson is calling all the shots, and that Kawhi has been medically cleared for over a month now.

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    Who needs him? Spurs are third in the West.

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    We should sign Tiago tbh.

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    pop should take care of kawhi instead of talkin bout politics

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    Just make sure you stay on his good side or else if the lakers make him upset about anything. He’ll sit out with another iinjury.

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    tbh doesn't this report just confirm that his beef has to do with the injury handling and not some other ulterior motive?
    Yes.

    But people here love the crazy "go to LA" story.

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    Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Two 1st's, prime Shaq, Kareem's retired jersey banner, the Hollywood Sign, Betty White's Star on the Walk of Fame, and the 5 Championship trophies that were won in Minneapolis, and you have yourself a deal.

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    Who needs him? Spurs are 5 games away from being out of the playoffs.

    FIFY.

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    I blame LaMarcus and HEB, and by extension PATFO for allowing those things to happen

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    Well, this season just went to in a hand-basket.

    There are many reasons Kawhi could be choosing to sit out. None of them seem very good for the future, though.

    I've never heard of a player being cleared but just refusing to play.
    Really how does a guy under contract and cleared to play just sit? Who is paying him?

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    to all the Spurs fans who thought he was coming back this season. He is as good as gone.

    Spurs will never ever be le contenders with LMA as the first option, unless they can get someone better than him they need to tank hard and go back to square one.

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    If you keep reading the thread, I also mention how Uncle Robertson is calling all the shots, and that Kawhi has been medically cleared for over a month now.
    Kawhi being cleared medically was hardly some hot take bro. That has been going around for awhile

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    B-b-but Aldridge is winning ball.

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    Well, this season just went to in a hand-basket.

    There are many reasons Kawhi could be choosing to sit out. None of them seem very good for the future, though.

    I've never heard of a player being cleared but just refusing to play.
    Derrick Rose maybe did that?

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    If you keep reading the thread, I also mention how Uncle Robertson is calling all the shots, and that Kawhi has been medically cleared for over a month now.
    You also said it was Pop not playing Kawhi.


    From what I got from the conversation, Spurs have been irritated and would rather him sit out until he either gets traded or til he's mentally committed to the Spurs again.

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    our season could well hinge on gay now
    what

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    Funny how many of us have been calling this as it has appeared the whole time, and have been getting about it. Now all the dirty laundry is out there. I still contend we should have traded him before all the bad press and before his last year (pre player option where he will certainly opt out).

    1. I can't see Spurs giving him the SuperMax if he doesn't even try, let alone show he can perform to the levels of the last 2 years with what's left before the off-season
    2. Given that he will likely sit out the year or come back super late and not make much of an impact on this year's Spurs (first or 2nd round exit), and will likely be limited even if he comes back this year, there's no way we would even get close to full value for him in the offseason/next year.

    The best window for us to trade him was before the trade deadline this year. Now we will get pennies on the dollar since even if he comes back next year, he will be a rental for our trade partner at best. Which means max, a top20-30 player (Lillard, etc.) and possibly a pick if our FO plays that right.

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    U guys are ing stupid... Kawhi has always been a warrior for us and has always shown up in the post season... ALL of our stars have been out with injuries in their prime... The guy is injured, and ppl pressuring him to play just like u guys are is what keeps reaggrivating his injury... Spurs aren't perfect... Kawhi isn't a drama queen and has never been... Show the man some respect... I don't care how long Kawhi takes to come back, as long as he remains a spur... The guy is the best player in the NBA... U really think he will sit out his MVP year? Gtfoh

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    to all the Spurs fans who thought he was coming back this season. He is as good as gone.

    Spurs will never ever be le contenders with LMA as the first option, unless they can get someone better than him they need to tank hard and go back to square one.
    You really went out on a limb buddy

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    You also said it was Pop not playing Kawhi.
    I said/meant Spurs have been irritated with Kawhi/Kawhi's camp/Kawhis Uncle and
    they are fine letting him go and do what he needs to do because at this juncture they'd prefer him sit out until he's traded or mentally committed to the Spurs again anyway. That does not mean Pop chose to not play Kawhi like you are saying -- . Because Spurs don't have control over what he's doing right now, Uncle Robertson has the keys like I've been saying in the other thread.

    I copy and pasted everything I mentioned before the Woj info below.

    There's more to it than how the Spurs handled the quad ( I honestly think its crutch to fall back on or an excuse as an out for Kawhis' camp).

    Kawhi and his family are from Riverside (which is 35-40 miles from LA). He grew up a huge Lakers and Kobe fan.

    I was just told that Kawhi's Uncle has been in Kawhis' ear all year about going to LA and Spurs are pretty pissed about it, because it seems like Kawhi has bought in to what his Uncle has been advertising. From what I got from the conversation, Spurs have been irritated and would rather him sit out until he either gets traded or til he's mentally committed to the Spurs again. At same time, Kawhi is working out on his own and trying to get all the way mentally and physically back.

    Other than that, all of the Spurs' doctors have cleared him and said he's fine. He's more healthy now than he was when he first came back.
    I'll give a few more important puzzle pieces.

    Uncle Robertson is calling all the shots regarding Kawhi, not the Spurs. Spurs are not the decision makers with Kawhi right now and haven't been for months. Spurs are irritated w/ the way Robertson has been influential with Kawhi ( he's no longer mentally committed to the team), and irritated with how its puts them in a bad spot whenever or if they decide to trade him this summer.

    Spurs have no control over Kawhi right now, and are letting that go. However they are still the team that is paying him, but in all honesty they'd rather him sit out if he's not committed to the team.

    Kawhi is only committed to Kawhi right now -- I think if anyone can think objectively for a second they can see that.


    Perhaps Spurs are mutual with the decision for him to sit out if he's not mentally committed to the team. It's always team first with Pop.

    Imo -- Kawhi is just being cautious with his quad ( he's been medically cleared) and at the same time he's not mentally committed to the Spurs. He's in his own world with his Uncle being the gatekeeper that wants him elsewhere.

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