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    stinks to high heaven; nothing will happen.

    “This is very strong evidence, if not proof, of illegal coordination,” said Larry Noble, a former general counsel for the Federal Election Commission. “This is the heat of the general election, and the same person is acting as an agent for the NRA and the Trump campaign.”
    “I don’t think I’ve ever seen a situation where illegal coordination seems more obvious,” said Ann Ravel, a former chair of the FEC who reviewed the records. “It is so blatant that it doesn’t even seem sloppy. Everyone involved probably just thinks there aren’t going to be any consequences.”
    https://www.thetrace.org/2018/12/tru...-coordination/

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    "The two purchases may have looked coincidental; Red Eagle and AMAG appear at first glance to be separate firms. But each is closely connected to a major conservative media-consulting firm called National Media Research, Planning and Placement."


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    you didn't read through.

    they share an address and employees.

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    I read through, and it sounds like a conspiracy theory.

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    I read through, and it sounds like a conspiracy theory.
    any time people collaborate to break laws, that's a conspiracy.

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    looks more and more like Trump for President was corrupt from the get go.

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    I read through, and it sounds like a conspiracy theory.
    the do entary evidence made no impression?

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    stinks to high heaven; nothing will happen.
    Probably correct, with current FEC composition

    https://www.fec.gov/

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    former NRATV contributor Dan Bongino...

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    You Can’t Understand The Brutal Reality Of Gun Violence Until You Hear It From Doctors

    The NRA tried to push doctors out of the gun debate. They responded with raw accounts from the front lines of the crisis.

    Teams were in the middle of changing shifts when a 6-year-old came to a Texas county hospital ER with massive gunshot wounds to her shoulder and chest. Her mother had been fatally shot by her boyfriend. When the girl tried to call 911, the man turned his shotgun on her.

    After hours of surgery, Brandt saved the child. Since then, Brandt, now a pediatric surgeon at Texas Children’s Hospital in Houston, has operated on many more child shooting victims.

    “All of us have some patients who we can’t forget,” Brandt said of the young girl. “In terms of being able to not be sad about it, it took months and months. I’m still probably a little sad about it.”

    In November after the American College of Physicians issued new
    guidelines on how doctors can help protect patients from gun violence ―

    and the National Rifle Association responded by telling physicians to “
    stay in your lane.”

    the NRA wanted these doctors to shut up

    about an issue that touches their lives daily, leading to a record high of
    nearly 40,000 deaths in 2017

    NRA retort was enough to lead many physicians to break their silence.

    Under the banner of
    “This is our lane,” surgeons and other doctors thrust themselves into the gun debate,

    sharing photos from inside operating rooms and telling stories about the agony of treating an unending flow of shooting victims.

    painting a diverse portrait of a problem that afflicts communities in a variety of forms, including mass shootings, assaults, accidents, intimate partner violence and suicide.

    Their accounts describe exhausting work that doctors have traditionally shouldered in private. Many doctors told HuffPost they feel it’s their moral duty to show the public the truth:

    Gun violence is ubiquitous in emergency rooms all over the country.

    Many of the gunshot victims that come into the hospital have been shot before.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...gEmail__122718


    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/doctors-gun-violence-this-is-our-lane_us_5c1c1203e4b08aaf7a86a67b?utm_medium=email& utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__122718&utm_content =__TheMorningEmail__122718+CID_3146dc4100577bcfb2f 5732ec4d2db0b&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20softw are&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMo rningEmail__122718

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    more illegal coordination:

    he National Rifle Association appears to have illegally coordinated its political advertising with Republican candidates in at least three recent high-profile Senate races, according to Federal Communications Commission records. In Senate races in Missouri and Montana in 2018, and North Carolina in 2016, the gun group’s advertising blitzes on behalf of GOP candidates Josh Hawley, Matt Rosendale, and Richard Burr were authorized by the very same media consultancy that the candidates themselves used — an apparent violation of laws designed to prevent independent groups from synchronizing their efforts with political campaigns.
    https://www.thetrace.org/2019/01/nra...ate-campaigns/

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    I realize this is specific to those races, but I'm honestly surprised to learn this is illegal or newsworthy. I thought it pretty much went without saying that the NRA was coordinating efforts with GOP candidates. They certainly were coordinating messaging.

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    It's DoJ that should be hiring more lawyers, not Trash.

    But DoJ is 100% politicized for Trash, finally acting as Trash's personal legal defense team.
    Last edited by boutons_deux; 01-11-2019 at 03:29 PM.

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    I realize this is specific to those races, but I'm honestly surprised to learn this is illegal or newsworthy. I thought it pretty much went without saying that the NRA was coordinating efforts with GOP candidates. They certainly were coordinating messaging.
    yeah, the FEC is pretty much toothless, but the activity described is at least technically against the law.

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    LaPierre charged the NRA's ad agency a quarter of a MIL for travel expenses. Apparently, it was this sort of extravagance that led to the falling out with Ollie North.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/nra-chi...es-11556834268

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    It is almost as if one party has decided that the rule of law is irrelevant.

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    It is almost as if one party has decided that the rule of law is irrelevant.
    Getting and keeping power counts. It counts for a lot.

    Trump being in charge of the 2020 Census probably s the Dems for another decade. Probably s Texas too.

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    Getting and keeping power counts. It counts for a lot.

    Trump being in charge of the 2020 Census probably s the Dems for another decade. Probably s Texas too.
    While both Kav and Gorsuch made references in their confirmation hearings about US not aligning with foreign legal practices (America Number One, Yeah), both last week referred to all the countries that have citizenship questions on their census forms, so why not USA, too?

    So expect another 5 SCOTUS oligarcy s-to-4 decision putting a citizenship question on US forms, ignoring that Treasury totaled ed up by not following the procedures to change the census form.

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    Plausible, but judges can be unpredictable.

    You’ve gotten more than a few predictions wrong, but truth to be told, prediction is a fool’s game wherever no clear asymmetry of information exists.

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    But you could be right, tho.

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    Three more NRA board members resign, say leadership won't allow investigations into improprieties

    three of those members signed a letter resigning from the board due to

    being
    “rebuffed at every turn” in their pursuit of oversight.

    “Instead, we have been stonewalled, accused of disloyalty, stripped of committee assignments and denied effective counsel necessary to properly discharge our responsibilities as Board members.”

    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/201...ng-leadership-
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    The old man is swaying back to reality=don't with the Base.

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    The old man is swaying back to reality=don't with the Base.
    The base is solid, but it's far less than a majority. You better hope hard for apathy, voter suppression, gerrymandering and that the Dems don't nominate someone who can fire people up.

    Absent an authoritarian putsch, the days of GOP minority rule might be numbered.

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