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Dumb ass cant even pass to wing
Jesus
Man he was awesome
For the folks that were pimping Murray's on/off stat to beat up all criticism, Murray's tally fell from +7.4 to +5.9 in the span of 49 minutes. That's a huge drop-off for such a comparatively short time, but it is just part of a trend of Murray's impact stats falling off since he has become a starter. I believe DeJounte has a spot in the rotation and that he has a future, but please learn to use stats responsibly. He's not among the team's best guards, his D is not make up for his offense, he hasn't been worth all the changes so far. I'm not sure how many more games SA could have won had they continued to start Parker, but the Murray experiment has not been successful so far. It's not everyone else's fault but his that the team has gone on a 7-12 (7-13, but Murray missed the second GS loss) skid since that change, or that the team is 14-19 in his starts total,
Some people are re ed he is young and he is getting better each year what are you all ing about.
It's the same thing that happened last season, and early this season. When he was put in the starting lineup, he had a few flashy games and everyone was rallying behind the "PG of the future" flag. Then, his game slowly regresses to the point where he looks like he did last night.
He has the athleticism to be a good defender and crash the boards, but for all that "work he put in over the summer", those are still his only concrete NBA skills. His ball-handling, decision making, shooting, and passing are all still suspect.
His stats only look better because he is playing more minutes. In fact, his Per-36 numbers are actually DOWN from last year in scoring and assists, his FG% is only .09% higher, and his 3PT% has tanked to an abysmal .261. The only thing that he has really improved is his rebounding, which isn't really what the Spurs need from their starting PG.
I've said this before, but I still don't really see where Murray improved his game over the summer except for just becoming more familiar with the game, and that does not bode well for him transforming into the franchise savior some people want to make him out to be.
Murray is an easy guy to root for. He has the at ude of a franchise player, but he's also extremely supportive of his teammates. I want him to succeed more than I've wanted any other Spurs to succeed (yes, even more than Green). I honestly expected him to be a backup this season while continuing to work on his game behind the scenes. Had Parker never gotten injured, maybe Murray would have done exactly that. But we didn't get to see that. I'm not actually disappointed in Murray's development. I only wanted him to look physically ready to play in the league at this stage, and I think that happened. It was next year that I wanted him to be more skilled. To that extent, Murray is still on my schedule.
People have just been trying to force this narrative that Murray's this big-impact guy, and he's not, at least not in the sense that he needs to be the guy now. The things he does well are not essential for PGs, and the things at which he struggles are. He has very little poise, on either end, and he doesn't fit with the team's best players with his current skill-set. He has, as I've been saying, broken stats with the dissonance between his real-life play and his impact stats. We're finally starting the see the latter catch up to the former. Maybe once they settle down, we'll be able to have a legit discussion on DeJounte's present and future.
Lonzo is better.I still dont know about him. Sometimes he doesnt impress me at all. Sometimes he does some good things. He seems to be one dimensional in scoring, floaters/layups. I really havent seen him shoot jump shots all that much. I also see him turn it over a lot. I dont know..........Im not sold on him yet. What are yalls thoughts?
The only thing murray proves is that the nba is a joke. He plays a position where he literally has no skillset to play. Anyone off the street could get better every year with the minutes this bum logs. And anyone playing hs basketball could shoot 26 percent from three
I'm guessing u guys don't watch too many other 21 year old point guards... Not sure what u were expecting...
If his name was Dillon McHale, you would love him
Id love him if he could dribble the ball up the floor and not pick up his dribble and be able to make an entry pass to the wing. Todays nba... doesnt get much worseIf his name was Dillon McHale, you would love him
Pretty amazing how people here expect him to be prime Tony or prime Stockton already.
One of the bright spots this season has been his development, but I wouldn't expect some of these people to notice where he improved.
Exactly
Areas where he's improved:
Ball-handling
Jump shot ( past 2 months)
Poise - control
Decision making in transition
Decision making in the half court offense
Limiting turnovers
Knowing when to push the pace
Knowing when to pump the brakes
His team defense
His one on one defense
Awareness off ball
Rebounding
Kid is leading the NBA in DRPM for PGs.
#20 in overall RPM in the NBA for PGs. ( Mills is #42, Tony Parker is ranked #82 in RPM for PGs). This means Spurs outscore their opponents more when Murray is on the floor compared to Patty and Tony for those who just look at record.
5th on the team in VORP
7th on the team in BPM
Has averaged 12 points, 7 rebounds, 4 assists on 50% shooting in February (he got the job at end of January). (10, 6, and 3 on 48% in March.)
But people want blame him for the record when he starts, when in reality they have been losing the past month because of the difficult schedule with a lot of road games, tougher compe ion, overplaying Mills 30+ minutes, and having teammates who have regressed ( Pau, Manu, Gay) or teammates that were hurt ( Kawhi and LMA).
No he's not John Stockton. No he's not Prime Tony Parker. He's 21 year old DeJounte Murray and still needs to polish up his game, but as of now -- his impact and improvements are obvious. He helps the Spurs more than any other point guard on the roster. White might be the only talent that can contest that.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 03-14-2018 at 08:45 AM.
Nice post, i really think he’s improving as PG. He still have a lot of potential and areas To improve.
Preach!
Lololololololoololollolllollooloololl... dumbest post ive seen
Will he ever score 20 pts?
Yes
Him and White are going to make a great combo
This dude is a bonafide scrub. He can’t play!
He'll probably average 15 pts next year and playing even better defensively.
Its like some póster said, he looks so not Nba making those numbers, like if any average guy can play for the team make some low numbers and afford to be 10nth in his conference.
Wonder what would be his numbers if he was an 80s player, because if he makes these kind of numbers in such a ty street ball league...
Still raw, but the physical attributes and at ude are there. That will take him a long way if he stays committed. It's a broken record but he needs a jumper to be anywhere close to an elite PG. I expect the corner three and an elbow-ish jumper to be added to his arsenal next year. It won't be a good sign if he can't turn that corner.
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