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    Figure the top three are made up of Rodgers, Brady, and Brees, but the next seven are kinda up in the air. What is ST's opinion?

    Rodgers
    Brady
    Brees
    Luck (if he's ever healthy again)
    Rivers
    Stafford
    Big Rape
    Wentz
    Ryan
    Carr

    HM: Foles, Garoppolo

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    pretty generous to have Carr there... he wasn't even a top 16 qb last year, but i appreciate him getting the benefit of the doubt coming off a bad season after he had two top 10 seasons.

    i'd go

    Rodgers
    Brady
    Wentz
    Brees
    Rivers
    Luck (giving him benefit of the doubt)
    Ryan
    Wilson
    Ben (too inconsistent)
    Stafford

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    pretty generous to have Carr there... he wasn't even a top 16 qb last year, but i appreciate him getting the benefit of the doubt coming off a bad season after he had two top 10 seasons.

    i'd go

    Rodgers
    Brady
    Wentz
    Brees
    Rivers
    Luck (giving him benefit of the doubt)
    Ryan
    Wilson
    Ben (too inconsistent)
    Stafford
    Says more about the state of the QB position right now imo, but he still has serious talent.

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    Says more about the state of the QB position right now imo, but he still has serious talent.
    yeah. we'll see if he bounces back under Chucky with Nelson and Martavis Bryant in the fold

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    Mahomes will be knocking on the door of that list by week 8

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    Mahomes will be knocking on the door of that list by week 8
    He's a Big 12 QB, he'll be lucky to be in the league by week 8.

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    Bortles es!

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    He's a Big 12 QB, he'll be lucky to be in the league by week 8.

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    Goddamn shame Winston isn't even sniffing this list. Wonder if he'd make the top 25 list....

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    Figure the top three are made up of Rodgers, Brady, and Brees, but the next seven are kinda up in the air. What is ST's opinion?

    Rodgers
    Brady
    Brees
    Luck (if he's ever healthy again)
    Rivers
    Stafford
    Big Rape
    Wentz
    Ryan
    Carr

    HM: Foles, Garoppolo
    Why no Russell Wilson? is that some kind of forum schtick?

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    Why no Russell Wilson? is that some kind of forum schtick?
    He isn't better than any of the QBs on that list. Considered putting him under HM but didn't wanna push it.

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    Why no Russell Wilson? is that some kind of forum schtick?
    No, it's just the truth.

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    Why no Russell Wilson? is that some kind of forum schtick?
    clearly you're new here

    on ST russell wilson is a below average quarterback, and in Clipper Nation's world he's not NFL caliber at all... while on the other end of the spectrum Avante thinks he's an all time great

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    Taking everything there is to judge a QB by...

    wins
    playoff success
    QB rating
    TD/INT
    NFL records
    comp %

    I will give longevity at the top major props.

    So when taking everything into account.

    Aaron Rodgers 103.8 career QB rating, that is as good as it gets from an historical perspective.
    Tom Brady 97.6
    Drew Brees 96,7
    Russell Wilson 98.8....only Rodgers beats this.
    Big Ben...94.0
    Philip Rivers...94.8
    Matt Ryan...93.4
    Matt Stafford...88.3
    Andrew Luck...87.3
    Alex Smith....87.4

    Carson Wentz simply has too little NFL experience to belong ahead of any of those listed.

    Derek Carr deserves mention. As does Eli Manning.

    Jimmy G, Goff, still....?

    Obviously ya can't talk the top NFL QB's of ALL TIME actually without talk of the amazing TOM SAVAGE THE BEST QB IN TEXAS.......yep....PERIOD~~~~~~~~


    How many of those mentioned above have won a SB? Own NFL records, have led the NFL in TD passes and QB rating? Own the best win lose %? Never missed a game in his career. Started from day one. Yep.............................RUSSELL WILSON. Who also has rushed for more yards than anybody listed above.

    If we looked at all those I listed above the best at under 30............Russell Wilson. What he has done in his first six seasons is better than what any of the others accomplished. Go ahead check it out.

    Five pro bowls in hix first six seasons, who listed above can say that but Russell Wilson?
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    He isn't better than any of the QBs on that list. Considered putting him under HM but didn't wanna push it.
    He's not better than Derek Carr or Nick Foles?

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    He's not better than Derek Carr or Nick Foles?
    Carr comp% 61.3, QB rating 87.5
    Foles 60.1, 87.4
    Wilson 64.0, 98.8...second best in history

    Wilson owns a number of NFL firsts and records. That can't be said about about Carr/Foles.

    Wilson has led the NFL in TD passes and QB rating, that can't be said about Carr/Foles.

    Wilson has never missed a game, that can't be said about Carr/Foles.

    So much fuss over Wilson, tons of this sort of thing out there, only a football know nothing wouldn't get this.


    The below from an article about is Wilsoin the best young QB....EVER~~~~~~~~ He did have the best first six seasons....EVER~~~~~~~~~


    Russell Wilson vs. Modern Era Young Quarterbacks

    I’m fully aware that “Modern Era” is a dumb way to phrase this, but with this section, I’ll be talking through quarterbacks from 2000 through 2009.
    Who’s contained in this group? Oh, you know, just a few Super Bowl champion gunslingers, including one of the best quarterbacks to ever live. No big deal.
    The “Modern Era Young Quarterbacks” (it’s still dumb, I know) include names like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jay Cutler, Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Eli Manning, Marc Bulger and this guy who plays for the Patriots.
    Because we’re analyzing more years here (2000 through 2009), the sample size is larger. And with a larger sample size, Russell Wilson’s got tougher compe ion.
    Before we get started, can we just throw Alex Smith out of this discussion? Thanks.
    Unlike the current young passers, the quarterbacks in this group have clearly played more than three seasons, the limitations I set when defining a young quarterback. But once you played three years, you’re no longer an inexperienced passer. Therefore, there’s no reason for me to analyze Tom Brady’s 2007 season – I’m only going to look at 2000 to 2002, Tom Brady’s first three seasons in the league.
    Just like the table above, below are the numbers for each quarterback involved in this group.
    Quarterback Passing NEP per Season Passing NEP/P Total NEP per Season
    Matt Ryan 83.94 0.17 89.15
    Joe Flacco 32.16 0.06 31.45
    Jay Cutler 56.61 0.13 53.86
    Carson Palmer 41.53 0.08 45.25
    Ben Roethlisberger 45.61 0.12 52.21
    Eli Manning 3.23 0.00 5.37
    Marc Bulger 45.30 0.10 48.72
    Tom Brady 16.61 0.03 18.00
    Russell Wilson 79.34 0.18 104.84


    Joe Montana, Slingin' Sammy Baugh, Otto Graham, Johnny U, Fran Tarkenton, Bart Starr, Joe Namath, Roger the Dodger, Bradshaw, Marino, Young, Moon, Elway, Brady, Favre, Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, ....TOM SAVAGE....never ..

    passed for over 4000 yards
    had over 30 passing TD's
    rushed for over 500 yards

    ...in a season, only one QB in history has ever done that, yep..................Russell Wilson, and he came up 18 yards short of doing it again last season.

    What QB holds the NFL record for mosrt TD passes in the 4th Q in a season, yep.....Russell Wilson.

    Only one QB in history has ever started his career with back to back 100.0 QB ratings, yep.....Russell Wilson.


    I challenge anyone to give me the QB who did it better than what Wilson has done in their first six seasons, come on, where he is?


    How in the could anyone who follows football not get this?
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    He's not better than Derek Carr or Nick Foles?
    Nick Foles is on there because he's had stretches of looking monstrous and having a dominant playoff run. Carr has had an MVP-caliber season and a great rookie year. Struggle has yet to prove he can win without an elite defense. If he finds a way to take Seattle to the playoffs next season I'll have him in my Top 10.

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    Home > Leaders > NFL Career Passer Rating Leaders
    NFL Career Leaders - Passer Rating

    The following is a list of the NFL all-time career passing leaders ranked by passer rating. Statistics are current through the 2017 NFL season and include stats accrued in NFL, AFL and APFA games.
    Active players are listed in bold. Career Leaders Active Leaders Single Season Leaders Yearly Leaders

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    Player Gms Att Cmp Pct Yds Int TD Lg Rating
    1. Aaron RodgersA. Rodgers, 2005-2017 149 4,895 3,188 65.1 38,502 78 313 93t 103.8
    2. Russell WilsonR. Wilson, 2012-2017 96 2,834 1,815 64.0 22,176 56 161 80t 98.8
    3. Tom BradyT. Brady, 2000-2017 253 8,805 5,629 63.9 66,159 160 488 99t 97.6
    4. Tony RomoT. Romo, 2005-2016 150 4,335 2,829 65.3 34,183 117 248 85t 97.1
    5. Steve YoungS. Young, 1985-1999 169 4,149 2,667 64.3 33,124 107 232 97t 96.8
    6. Drew BreesD. Brees, 2001-2017 250 9,294 6,222 66.9 70,445 228 488 98t 96.7
    7. Peyton ManningP. Manning, 1998-2015 266 9,380 6,125 65.3 71,940 251 539 86t 96.5
    8. Philip RiversP. Rivers, 2004-2017 196 6,492 4,171 64.2 50,348 166 342 81t 94.8
    9. Ben RoethlisbergerB. Roethlisberger, 2004-2017 200 6,493 4,164 64.1 51,065 174 329 97t 94.0
    10. Kirk CousinsK. Cousins, 2012-2017 62 2,096 1,372 65.5 16,206 55 99 81t 93.7
    Kurt WarnerK. Warner, 1998-2009 125 4,070 2,666 65.5 32,344 128 208 85t 93.7
    12. Matt RyanM. Ryan, 2008-2017 158 5,593 3,630 64.9 41,796 126 260 90t 93.4
    13. Joe MontanaJ. Montana, 1979-1994 192 5,391 3,409 63.2 40,551 139 273 96t 92.3
    14. Chad PenningtonC. Pennington, 2000-2010 90 2,471 1,632 66.0 17,823 64 102 80t 90.1
    15. Matt SchaubM. Schaub, 2004-2016 145 3,274 2,093 63.9 24,867 90 133 80t 89.1
    16. Colin KaepernickC. Kaepernick, 2011-2016 69 1,692 1,011 59.8 12,271 30 72 80t 88.9
    17. Andy DaltonA. Dalton, 2011-2017 109 3,556 2,217 62.3 25,534 93 167 86t 88.7
    18. Matthew StaffordM. Stafford, 2009-2017 125 4,850 3,005 62.0 34,749 118 216 87 88.3
    19. Carson PalmerC. Palmer, 2004-2017 182 6,307 3,941 62.5 46,247 187 294 91t 87.9
    20. Daunte CulpepperD. Culpepper, 1999-2009 106 3,199 2,016 63.0 24,153 106 149 82t 87.8

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    Well, that settles it, then. Kirk Cousins is a top 10 QB of all time. And Chad Pennington, Matt Schaub, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, and Daunte Culpepper are in the top 20.

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    Nick Foles is on there because he's had stretches of looking monstrous and having a dominant playoff run. Carr has had an MVP-caliber season and a great rookie year. Struggle has yet to prove he can win without an elite defense. If he finds a way to take Seattle to the playoffs next season I'll have him in my Top 10.
    Derek Carr rookie season.

    comp% 58.1
    TD'INT...21/12
    Qb rating...76.6

    Russell Wilson

    64.1
    26 (rookie record)/10
    100.0.................how many rookies hit 100?

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    Derek Carr rookie season.

    comp% 58.1
    TD'INT...21/12
    Qb rating...76.6

    Russell Wilson

    64.1
    26 (rookie record)/10
    100.0.................how many rookies hit 100?
    He played on a stacked team. Carr did not.

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    Well, that settles it, then. Kirk Cousins is a top 10 QB of all time. And Chad Pennington, Matt Schaub, Colin Kaepernick, Andy Dalton, and Daunte Culpepper are in the top 20.
    Well lets see we have Rodgers, Peyton, Montana, Brees, Brady, Big Ben, Young, there. Only Rodgers did it better than Wilson.

    Now look at rushing,

    Then look at winning %

    Then look at comp%, TD/INT...ok?

    Dude, try anything ya want, it just doesn't matter, Russell Wilson is right there with the legends.

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    He played on a stacked team. Carr did not.
    Who was his TE, how many stud receivers did he have?


    So the with Terry Brashaw, Bart Starr, right? Both played on teams with 8 HOFers on them, they made 9. Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne. Johnny U had HOFers Ray Berry, Lenny Moore, John Mackey. Montana had Rice, Taylor, Craig.

    Dude, your ignorance is showing.

    Last season Wilson was running for his life, but....MVP talk, Pro Bowl, led the NFL with 34 TD passes.

    When the guy is ranked in the top 15 NFLers by the players, now what?

    I;ve seen then all since the late 50's, never seen a better QB right out of the gate than Russell Wilson, cat just walked in and started setting records.
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    Who was his TE, how many stud receivers did he have?


    So the with Terry Brashaw, Bart Starr, right? Both played on teams with 8 HOFers on them, they made 9. Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne. Johnny U had HOFers Ray Berry, Lenny Moore, John Mackey. Montana had Rice, Taylor, Craig.

    Dude, your ignorance is showing.

    Last season Wilson was running for his life, but....MVP talk, Pro Bowl, led the NFL with 34 TD passes.

    When the guy is ranked in the top 15 NFLers by the players, now what?
    The difference is they made a lot of those guys HoFers. You think ing Reggie Wayne would be in the HoF without Manning?

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    The difference is they made a lot of those guys HoFers. You think ing Reggie Wayne would be in the HoF without Manning?
    What??? Dude, stop with that silly , ok?

    Where was Otto Graham without Levelli and Speedie, Motley? Where was Marino without the Marks bros? Where is Rice without Montana and Young? Where was Norm Van Brocklin without Tom Fears "Crazy Legs" Hirsh, Paul "Tank" Younger, "Deacon" Dan Towler, where was Don Maynard without Joe Namath,and on and on and on......Andre Reed without Jim Kelly.

    Come on guy that 's all BS, ok? , where was Emmitt behind that line Barry was behind?

    Dude, you've never seen Wilson play or what? So when those TV guys are freaking out with.....magical...only he can make that play.....how does he do that...amazing...what are you thinking?

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